If Conan, Heiji, Kaito Kid fought with B.O. will they win?

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If Conan, Heiji, Kaito Kid fought with B.O. will they win?

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I dunno. Gosho should just make the Org that Kaito's father declines to steal for was B.O. then Kaito Kid can fight with Shinichi. I have a feeling they will win add Heiji. I dunno some random dream hahahhah. BTW im new
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Conan324 wrote: if this turned to a dragon ball series then yes  :P
LOL exactly what I was thinking.
This whole "if everyone joins forces" or "if Conan works with the FBI and CIA" is way too cheesy for this manga.
The only (almost realistic) anime that this thing worked well in was Higurashi Naku Koro Ni when all the good character made up a plan to defeat the organization. I'd love such an ending, but the B.O. is the most experienced organization I've ever seen so it likely wouldn't work.
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Logically, no.

But since in this series, high school students who are important characters sometimes get deus-ex machina powers, yes they would win easily.
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Just the three of them..by themselves..... without powers? No.
Even as incompetent Vodka looks from time to time, he probably could handle all three of them with a call to his underlings. But if did this happen it would make a great "we lost ending", which I wouldn't mind(I don't hate DC obviously but if they lost it would make DC be at the top in memorable endings)

Picture a Noir ending where those three do take on the B.O. in a great tactical plan but the pure power of the B.O. makes the plan result in a total failure. Kaito gets shot down while trying to aid from the air and falls hard. Conan is trapped inside the burning B.O. tower which has been evacuated(and all important members are safely laughing at their new tower) while his only way of communicating is a DB bandage he gave to Heiji before the plan.
Spoiler:
Heiji: Kudo, Kudo, you alright? The firemen and Police are here. They'll get you out!*Heiji's all nicked up but safely outside*

Shinichi/Conan: Yeah....hey Hattori..we messed up bad this time didn't we? Where's Kaitou I--*unable to move and surronded by fire*

Heiji: He's okay(lying), but the important thing is getting you out so we can have a rematch with them again. We took their best hit even after our failed plan, a few days to walk of these wounds and we'll get them right, Kudo?....Kudo?

*The rest of the gang arrives outside*
Shinichi: ......It's over Hattori, we lost and they won. Give me your word that you won't throw away you life chasing them down. It isn't worth it *hears Ran who just arrived with the others*. Is that Ran? Let me talk to her..
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*Megure is yelling at his men to aid the firemen as one person is still trapped inside*
Heiji: What are you talking about? Are you just going to quit after all this time and stay Conan? This isn't over Kudo. *hands badge to Ran*

You don't hear what they talk about but Ran quickly falls to her knees, drops the badge, and begins sobbing uncontrollably. Haibara who is also there picks it up and begins to yell into the badge.Then her mood changes after Shinchi said something and :

Haibara: What are you saying?! You..You promised to be my prote----
*Building explodes into an inferno and firemen pull back*

The whole cast just stares at the fire in disbelief until Heiji breaks the silence by yelling for Shinichi and has to be restrained from going in there. Ran doesn't even look, as if someone already deduced for her that this was going to happened and apologized for it..
This type of ending would just have you bouncing off the walls as you watch it. And even though I should just leave it at this..I just thought of more to make this ending more evil dramatic, so I might post it.
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TheBlind wrote: Just the three of them..by themselves..... without powers? No.
Even as incompetent Vodka looks from time to time, he probably could handle all three of them with a call to his underlings. But if did this happen it would make a great "we lost ending", which I wouldn't mind(I don't hate DC obviously but if they lost it would make DC be at the top in memorable endings)

Picture a Noir ending where those three do take on the B.O. in a great tactical plan but the pure power of the B.O. makes the plan result in a total failure. Kaito gets shot down while trying to aid from the air and falls hard. Conan is trapped inside the burning B.O. tower which has been evacuated(and all important members are safely laughing at their new tower) while his only way of communicating is a DB bandage he gave to Heiji before the plan.
Spoiler:
Heiji: Kudo, Kudo, you alright? The firemen and Police are here. They'll get you out!*Heiji's all nicked up but safely outside*

Shinichi/Conan: Yeah....hey Hattori..we messed up bad this time didn't we? Where's Kaitou I--*unable to move and surronded by fire*

Heiji: He's okay(lying), but the important thing is getting you out so we can have a rematch with them again. We took their best hit even after our failed plan, a few days to walk of these wounds and we'll get them right, Kudo?....Kudo?

*The rest of the gang arrives outside*
Shinichi: ......It's over Hattori, we lost and they won. Give me your word that you won't throw away you life chasing them down. It isn't worth it *hears Ran who just arrived with the others*. Is that Ran? Let me talk to her..
Spoiler:
*Megure is yelling at his men to aid the firemen as one person is still trapped inside*
Heiji: What are you talking about? Are you just going to quit after all this time and stay Conan? This isn't over Kudo. *hands badge to Ran*

You don't hear what they talk about but Ran quickly falls to her knees, drops the badge, and begins sobbing uncontrollably. Haibara who is also there picks it up and begins to yell into the badge.Then her mood changes after Shinchi said something and :

Haibara: What are you saying?! You..You promised to be my prote----
*Building explodes into an inferno and firemen pull back*

The whole cast just stares at the fire in disbelief until Heiji breaks the silence by yelling for Shinichi and has to be restrained from going in there. Ran doesn't even look, as if someone already deduced for her that this was going to happened and apologized for it..
This type of ending would just have you bouncing off the walls as you watch it. And even though I should just leave it at this..I just thought of more to make this ending more evil dramatic, so I might post it.
I'll praise Gosho if he makes an ending that they can't win against the organization. Most of the time, the manga is really easygoing and only on occasions there is a dark atmosphere (B.O. cases in general but the darkest until now was probably episode 345).
It also delivers a good message - there are fights that you can't win in (even if you do have an IQ like Conan's)
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TheBlind wrote: Just the three of them..by themselves..... without powers? No.
Even as incompetent Vodka looks from time to time, he probably could handle all three of them with a call to his underlings. But if did this happen it would make a great "we lost ending", which I wouldn't mind(I don't hate DC obviously but if they lost it would make DC be at the top in memorable endings)

Picture a Noir ending where those three do take on the B.O. in a great tactical plan but the pure power of the B.O. makes the plan result in a total failure. Kaito gets shot down while trying to aid from the air and falls hard. Conan is trapped inside the burning B.O. tower which has been evacuated(and all important members are safely laughing at their new tower) while his only way of communicating is a DB bandage he gave to Heiji before the plan.
Spoiler:
Heiji: Kudo, Kudo, you alright? The firemen and Police are here. They'll get you out!*Heiji's all nicked up but safely outside*

Shinichi/Conan: Yeah....hey Hattori..we messed up bad this time didn't we? Where's Kaitou I--*unable to move and surronded by fire*

Heiji: He's okay(lying), but the important thing is getting you out so we can have a rematch with them again. We took their best hit even after our failed plan, a few days to walk of these wounds and we'll get them right, Kudo?....Kudo?

*The rest of the gang arrives outside*
Shinichi: ......It's over Hattori, we lost and they won. Give me your word that you won't throw away you life chasing them down. It isn't worth it *hears Ran who just arrived with the others*. Is that Ran? Let me talk to her..
Spoiler:
*Megure is yelling at his men to aid the firemen as one person is still trapped inside*
Heiji: What are you talking about? Are you just going to quit after all this time and stay Conan? This isn't over Kudo. *hands badge to Ran*

You don't hear what they talk about but Ran quickly falls to her knees, drops the badge, and begins sobbing uncontrollably. Haibara who is also there picks it up and begins to yell into the badge.Then her mood changes after Shinchi said something and :

Haibara: What are you saying?! You..You promised to be my prote----
*Building explodes into an inferno and firemen pull back*

The whole cast just stares at the fire in disbelief until Heiji breaks the silence by yelling for Shinichi and has to be restrained from going in there. Ran doesn't even look, as if someone already deduced for her that this was going to happened and apologized for it..
This type of ending would just have you bouncing off the walls as you watch it. And even though I should just leave it at this..I just thought of more to make this ending more evil dramatic, so I might post it.
Flawless ending if you can actually think of a logical reason why Conan would be so wreckless.
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kkslider5552000 wrote:
TheBlind wrote: Just the three of them..by themselves..... without powers? No.
Even as incompetent Vodka looks from time to time, he probably could handle all three of them with a call to his underlings. But if did this happen it would make a great "we lost ending", which I wouldn't mind(I don't hate DC obviously but if they lost it would make DC be at the top in memorable endings)

Picture a Noir ending where those three do take on the B.O. in a great tactical plan but the pure power of the B.O. makes the plan result in a total failure. Kaito gets shot down while trying to aid from the air and falls hard. Conan is trapped inside the burning B.O. tower which has been evacuated(and all important members are safely laughing at their new tower) while his only way of communicating is a DB bandage he gave to Heiji before the plan.
Spoiler:
Heiji: Kudo, Kudo, you alright? The firemen and Police are here. They'll get you out!*Heiji's all nicked up but safely outside*

Shinichi/Conan: Yeah....hey Hattori..we messed up bad this time didn't we? Where's Kaitou I--*unable to move and surronded by fire*

Heiji: He's okay(lying), but the important thing is getting you out so we can have a rematch with them again. We took their best hit even after our failed plan, a few days to walk of these wounds and we'll get them right, Kudo?....Kudo?

*The rest of the gang arrives outside*
Shinichi: ......It's over Hattori, we lost and they won. Give me your word that you won't throw away you life chasing them down. It isn't worth it *hears Ran who just arrived with the others*. Is that Ran? Let me talk to her..
Spoiler:
*Megure is yelling at his men to aid the firemen as one person is still trapped inside*
Heiji: What are you talking about? Are you just going to quit after all this time and stay Conan? This isn't over Kudo. *hands badge to Ran*

You don't hear what they talk about but Ran quickly falls to her knees, drops the badge, and begins sobbing uncontrollably. Haibara who is also there picks it up and begins to yell into the badge.Then her mood changes after Shinchi said something and :

Haibara: What are you saying?! You..You promised to be my prote----
*Building explodes into an inferno and firemen pull back*

The whole cast just stares at the fire in disbelief until Heiji breaks the silence by yelling for Shinichi and has to be restrained from going in there. Ran doesn't even look, as if someone already deduced for her that this was going to happened and apologized for it..
This type of ending would just have you bouncing off the walls as you watch it. And even though I should just leave it at this..I just thought of more to make this ending more evil dramatic, so I might post it.
Flawless ending if you can actually think of a logical reason why Conan would be so reckless.
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Kor wrote: I'll praise Gosho if he makes an ending that they can't win against the organization. Most of the time, the manga is really easygoing and only on occasions there is a dark atmosphere (B.O. cases in general but the darkest until now was probably episode 345).
It also delivers a good message - there are fights that you can't win in (even if you do have an IQ like Conan's)
I don't think I can handle it it Gosho leaves DC a cliffhanger :'(
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still.looking wrote:
Kor wrote: I'll praise Gosho if he makes an ending that they can't win against the organization. Most of the time, the manga is really easygoing and only on occasions there is a dark atmosphere (B.O. cases in general but the darkest until now was probably episode 345).
It also delivers a good message - there are fights that you can't win in (even if you do have an IQ like Conan's)
I don't think I can handle it it Gosho leaves DC a cliffhanger :'(
Well neither can I.  :(
What I meant is that I don't mind to have an ending that Shinichi can't win so maybe some characters die and then we jump to the future and see how it affected the lives of the living characters who didn't know about the organization.
The (nasty) ending that I would like to see (if Gosho decides to pull something like an evil ending) is that Conan fails and gets killed, but Haibara and Ran stay alive. Haibara continues to live in the shadows and hides in her child identity and Ran sobs over Shinichi and decides to move on, but the two of them started to be closer to each other after that.
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No no no~~ XD
Kaito and Heiji wouldn't wanna get involved n even if they want to Conan would stop them :P
In 13th movie Heiji KNEW Conan was gonna fight with BO but all he did was being passive viewer... didn't do anything for Conan n didn't even offer to help cause he trusted Conan will win.. probably gonna be like that for manga too~ maybe CIA and FBI probably get involve but Heiji and Kaito hell no they have nothing to do with this~  :D
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kkslider5552000 wrote: Flawless ending if you can actually think of a logical reason why Conan would be so wreckless.
There could be many reasons for Conan to be in that situation. I won't go into detail but a tip from Kir, a kidnapping, or contact with the boss could just be a few of the reasons to make Conan act.
mizumi wrote: No no no~~ XD
Kaito and Heiji wouldn't wanna get involved n even if they want to Conan would stop them :P
In 13th movie Heiji KNEW Conan was gonna fight with BO but all he did was being passive viewer... didn't do anything for Conan n didn't even offer to help cause he trusted Conan will win.. probably gonna be like that for manga too~ maybe CIA and FBI probably get involve but Heiji and Kaito hell no they have nothing to do with this~  :D
Has another group released M13?
There has been a lot of talk about it recently and I don't think everyone here knows Japanese( if you all do..wow I suck).
But anyway, we can't definitely rule out that Heiji or Kaitou Kid wouldn't help Conan in a BO confrontation just because they haven't in the past. A situation could unfold where they find themselves helping Conan even if it wasn't planned and Conan disapproved. Yeah chances are low..but that applies to everything in regards to the DC ending. ;D
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What i mean if they join forces with FBI and CIA something like that of course with some help. But of course even with FBI that's not much help. They will be the main people who will fought i know. FBI with Akai isnt much. Unless Okiya is Akai which theory that i thnk is wrong. I saw some Okiya is Akai theory here. But ill be on Okiya is Bourbon. Oh Haibara's intelligence but it's no use for B.O. cause she's scared at them. Ran's power? maybe but that will make Conan half as good hahahah. cause he'll keep on worrying for her. Maybe Sato's sharp shooting.
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Come to think of it, have Heiji and/or Kaito ever helped Conan through a BO situation yet? Have they even appeared in the same episode? (Nevermind the OVA, I think it was non-canon)
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It's a what if. It's fine its unlikely happening. As the org on Kaitou Kid is not B.o. I think so. But if Gosho just wanna have something at DC cause of its popularity maybe he'll make it. Its 0.000000009% likely tho hahaha. Again its a what if. I dont see it happening too.
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Don't get me wrong, I WANT Heiji and Kaito to be in the ending. We can't let them miss out on all the fun! ;D
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