[Files 775-777] Target on Tape

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Who are the kidnappers and what were they after?

Gin and Vodka - in Vodka's car. They were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random B.O. members who were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random criminals who were after the carpet, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who were after what was inside the vase, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who wanted to kidnap the "girl who was living with Agasa" in order to demand a ransom
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Two criminals who were referred to in Chiba's First Love Case
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Two criminals who had something to do with a former case in which Haibara wore those clothes, and for some reason, they are after her, but they mistook Ayumi for her
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Billy and Fusae have gone wild!
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THESE TWO!
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http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-05/31/content_604588.htm

Notice two things about the above article. One it was sold at auction for around 10.13 MILLION
Second this Quote" The vase was originally inherited by a Scottish couple who used it as a lamp and did not realize its value until they saw a similar example in a museum"

http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question40292.html

The thing I want to point out is this: Compare the value between an undamaged one ($120,000) with a damaged one ($30,000). If you were an art thief, would you really take the chance of the item you are stealing losing 3/4 of its value?

As for the kidnapping idea. I said it once. What does Agasa have to suggest he has any money. To me all signs show he is not rich, so why a kidnap unless it is for the Vase?

Also while you might cut around the painting of say a Van Go, you would not cut across the middle. Here you be very careful not to damage it. The painting, not the frame is what is of value.

And most thing of real value have to be seen in real life to know if they are real or fakes. The thieves could not have known just by look at the video, the real value of that vase.
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just pointing out some things i recognised/came up with while reading the latest posts,

i highly doubt option 1 of the poll, mainly because vodka has a different car (conan in contact with BO(V37F8-38F1)) and furthermore i can't imangine Gin inside a car but not on one of the frontseats of his porsche (has yet to be shown, but i think he is obsessed with his car)

if Okiya = Akai then i think he is after them so fast because he saw the suspicious car AND Ai is the only other person his precious Akemi cared for (or something like in that direction,to lazy to write something better)

someone said something about vermouth keeping Ai's secret... maybe because she thinks that the creator of the shrinking drug is quite a good catch for creating a permanent antidote, especially since she witnessed him in his Kudo-form in the desperate revival case and seemed to be quite surprised to see her silverbulletkun in his normal form, and from this guessed it was ai who made the antidote

and one last thing even if it was mentioned quite a few times already the carpet is clearly shown behind agasa in the first panel of the last page
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Alright!! now it becomes interesting  ;D..
Those 2 strangers I guess they are not BO. They kill a traitors  >:(.. I guess they need some ransom money. Or they need some a talented girl  ;D.
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@ayumi:
Seriously, you guys are sick when you think that ayumi being happy about ai's scent on her cloths is strange.... She's a small girl, that likes Ai as a close friend. So of course she likes the smell of haibara.
Did you never borrowed cloths from a relative or friend and thought "Oh, it's smells good, like him/her <3"?
There is nothing "strange" or "wrong" with that, since they are close friends. Girls also like to exchange cloths with their best friend. Some even kiss each other as a greeting, without any strange thoughts...

@glasses reflecting:
When you buy glasses, you can choose to make them anti-reflecting or not. Of course, choosing the anti-reflection is making the glasses more expensive. And even with the anti-reflection, the glasses still reflect a lot. So it's possible to see the cameraman in the reflection and recognize him/her. Especially since Agasas glasses are quite large.
Tho zooming in so much and seeing the reflection so clear is a bit off. But I guess Gosho didn't want to use photoshop and use a blur filter :p

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Assuming Okiya is Akai, I wonder how he feels about being such a stalker.......after kids no less  :-X
Well, Haibara did ask Conan if Akai is a lolicon once ;D


@sera's batteries breast:
I think it's more like a pun/gag . Since Sera is quite smart and almost perfect like the other meitanteis. But to make her less flawless, she needs a "flaw".
Conan/shinichi can't sing, and is mocked because of that. Heiji is from Osaka and has a accent and was mocked by that by Jodie ;D He was also teased for his hot temper too. Even Akai was mocked once because of his bags under his eyes ;D Thus Sera is being mocked that she's too manly/is flat-chested.
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I figured out why Gosho spaces out the plot so much.  It is so everybody cheers when it comes around, giving a large boost in the ratings.  Shrewd, Gosho, shrewd.
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Actually, the plot doesn't have any effect on the anime's ratings.
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The manga ratings and the selling of the magazine (and if BO related probably Sera+BO=anime ratings up).

Also yep, even if the zooming and enhancement is indeed too much, it's true that in most of my photos with my old glasses you could never see my eyes but you see perfectly whatever was reflected on them... one would think Agasa would have better glasses though /jk
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: @ayumi:
Seriously, you guys are sick when you think that ayumi being happy about ai's scent on her cloths is strange.... She's a small girl, that likes Ai as a close friend. So of course she likes the smell of haibara.
Did you never borrowed cloths from a relative or friend and thought "Oh, it's smells good, like him/her <3"?
There is nothing "strange" or "wrong" with that, since they are close friends. Girls also like to exchange cloths with their best friend. Some even kiss each other as a greeting, without any strange thoughts...
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: @ayumi:
Did you never borrowed cloths from a relative or friend and thought "Oh, it's smells good, like him/her <3"?
I don't understand how anybody can not find that disturbing or at least weird.
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1Kaito wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote: @ayumi:
Did you never borrowed cloths from a relative or friend and thought "Oh, it's smells good, like him/her <3"?
I don't understand how anybody can not find that disturbing or at least weird.
It's just a thinking, and it's truth, as long as you don't have dirty ideas when thinking about it, it's normal. The same for Ayumi, she's just a little girl, she said what in her mind naively.
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dont let age fool you!!!

even Genta and Mitsuhiko is concern about batteriesBreast !
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Not to forget that the clothes were washed anyway so any scent was coming from the washing powder or wherever they were stored.
I still think it was cute when Ayumi said that, not weird or disturbing. It shows how fond she is of her friend Haibara.

Though, if anything similar had happened between Conan and Haibara our resident AixConan supporter faction would have found "another obvious, undeniable evidence" for their pairing.
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xpon wrote: dont let age fool you!!!

even Genta and Mitsuhiko is concern about batteriesBreast !
I think you're concern about batteriesBreast more than them  :P. Then again, they was just suspicious about her gender, that all.
Schillok wrote: Not to forget that the clothes were washed anyway so any scent was coming from the washing powder or wherever they were stored.
I still think it was cute when Ayumi said that, not weird or disturbing. It shows how fond she is of her friend Haibara.

Though, if anything similar had happened between Conan and Haibara our resident AixConan supporter faction would have found "another obvious, undeniable evidence" for their pairing.
Please, don't use words like that, we're not that pathetic.
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Schillok wrote: Though, if anything similar had happened between Conan and Haibara our resident AixConan supporter faction would have found "another obvious, undeniable evidence" for their pairing.
are you silly?

conan dont have that kind of FETISH  :P
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xpon wrote: dont let age fool you!!!

even Genta and Mitsuhiko is concern about batteriesBreast !
I think you're concern about batteriesBreast more than them  :P. Then again, they was just suspicious about her gender, that all.
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Schillok wrote: Though, if anything similar had happened between Conan and Haibara...
...Um. Who exactly would be doing what? Conan trying on Haibara's clothes I'm guessing due to location, but...either way I can't see the situation in any other way than this:

Conan: Haibara's scent~<3
*walks out*
*shocked*
NO. SOMEONE HEARD MY OOCNESS

Haibara: Conan/Kudo's scent~<3
*walks out*
*shocked*
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