Kogoro's knowledge about the situation

randompi314159 · Post by **randompi314159** » April 8th, 2011, 10:03 pm

Abs. wrote: The latest file... Kogorou's just... "I am totally Shinichi's bitch right now but whatev"

haha, awesome.

Sato · Post by **Sato** » May 7th, 2011, 10:45 am

I feel he was freaked out. I think he sometimes lead me to think he did know the truth or not, but he's the sort of person can confused me and people. But let's think logically. If we incline to think he knows, his act make people feel he doesn't know. Why so? He has another logic and haven't thought of Conan as Shinichi. He's incline to think he decided not to complain as he broke many cases. If he suspect Conan, he will think Conan is another person not Shinichi, because he has seen Shinichi and 'fake' Conan together and had not thought through this deception. He can't pinpoint, doesn't know Conan is Shinichi, believe Conan is not an ordinary brat, and felt dumb because he unable to figure out the reason. He was under the conception of confusion. He look like the one who spin himself in the chair and end up confused and dizzy! He was not dumb, but totally dumbed out to know the mystery of hidden Shinichi.

thorongil · Post by **thorongil** » May 8th, 2011, 9:14 pm

i think he is just to superficial and lazy in his everyday life and work to really have a clue about whats going on... and at the moment there is no reason for him really to look more into it.. i mean, now he is famous and everything else... if it would benefit him in any way to solve this problem, he may get fired up about it and is able to solve it all alone, but there's just no reason for him (at least so it seems to me)

Detective Kudo · Post by **Detective Kudo** » May 9th, 2011, 8:06 pm

I agree that this is possible, even probable. The fact that it was revealed that he isn't an idiot when he solved some cases, sometimes more accurate than Conan's. When did it happen, not completely sure. Even his reactions when Shinichi's name comes up gives me the feeling he knows what is going on.

Sato · Post by **Sato** » May 10th, 2011, 4:21 am

Kogoro is not going to ask Ran to have a bath with Conan. He once is nice to Conan before, sometimes I always wondering is he want to learn more from Conan or make up the times he hit the brat when working on investigation.

ssjup81 · Post by **ssjup81** » May 11th, 2011, 10:37 am

Sato wrote: Kogoro is not going to ask Ran to have a bath with Conan.

Why not? It's normal to take baths together. Conan is a kid, so there wouldn't be a problem with it, unless he knew that Conan was Shinichi, and if so, I'm sure he'd recall the time that they did bathe together and murder Conan/Shinichi for it.

Feb914 · Post by **Feb914** » May 11th, 2011, 3:13 pm

Kogoro is simply just a brilliant but lazy detective. He's not a stupid detective (proven when he takes the case seriously like cases with Eri and his high school friend), just an old geezer who's into drinking, horse racing, and young idol.

I believe (and hope) that he will take a big part for the solution of story arc.

Shuusgirl · Post by **Shuusgirl** » May 11th, 2011, 11:47 pm

I once found a Holmes quote about the difference between Shinichi and Kogoro, but I've lost it so if anyone knows what I'm talking about...
Anyway, the gist of it is that a good detective never makes a theory before looking at the facts, because he'll start to twist the facts to suit the theory instead of twisting an idea of what happened to fit the facts.

MadelineLime · Post by **MadelineLime** » May 23rd, 2011, 1:31 am

Feb914 wrote: I believe (and hope) that he will take a big part for the solution of story arc.

How amazing would it be if he figures out the key to solving everything?

harrieth.dc · Post by **harrieth.dc** » May 23rd, 2011, 5:23 am

I think Kogoro's knows that Conan is not a simple ordinar brat, he wouldn't be able to end it up as Shinichi as Conan since he's not aware (I guess) in the presence of the APTX-4869 or the BO, he usually see Conan doing soething of a detective works but he couldn't end into the realization of Conan-Shinichi realtionship..

thorongil · Post by **thorongil** » May 26th, 2011, 2:14 pm

Shuusgirl wrote: I once found a Holmes quote about the difference between Shinichi and Kogoro, but I've lost it so if anyone knows what I'm talking about...
Anyway, the gist of it is that a good detective never makes a theory before looking at the facts, because he'll start to twist the facts to suit the theory instead of twisting an idea of what happened to fit the facts.

that reminds of the last vermouth arc case with jodie, sonoko and ran, seems as ran is more aware of what is needed to be a good detective than him, he would have just blurted out what he thought (and if it wasn't for his fame most people would probably sue him for badmouthing etc) and once again stuck with same thing ran stuck, if it wasn't for kudo she would most probably not have said her theory out loud

i won't doubt that kogoro has quite the sharp mind if it wasn't for his lazyness and short temper... but still ... if i recall right it has yet to be shown him solving a case completly alone in FULL detail like conan (canonwise,in the movie with the cruiser he did it alone, i believe

Shuusgirl · Post by **Shuusgirl** » May 26th, 2011, 8:39 pm

thorongil wrote:
Shuusgirl wrote: I once found a Holmes quote about the difference between Shinichi and Kogoro, but I've lost it so if anyone knows what I'm talking about...
Anyway, the gist of it is that a good detective never makes a theory before looking at the facts, because he'll start to twist the facts to suit the theory instead of twisting an idea of what happened to fit the facts.
that reminds of the last vermouth arc case with jodie, sonoko and ran, seems as ran is more aware of what is needed to be a good detective than him, he would have just blurted out what he thought (and if it wasn't for his fame most people would probably sue him for badmouthing etc) and once again stuck with same thing ran stuck, if it wasn't for kudo she would most probably not have said her theory out loud

i won't doubt that kogoro has quite the sharp mind if it wasn't for his lazyness and short temper... but still ... if i recall right it has yet to be shown him solving a case completly alone in FULL detail like conan (canonwise,in the movie with the cruiser he did it alone, i believe

No all by himself, though that one he did realize that his friend wasn't the other guy's lover but his daughter, Shinichi didn't get that at all. (Wow that sounded like a soap opera).
Found it, finally!
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." (A Scandal in Bohemia).

randompi314159 · Post by **randompi314159** » May 27th, 2011, 5:48 am

Yeah, he found tidbits of things in some cases without/before Conan, but not a complete case yet (though I'd love to see him do it once)

And, as others pointed out, his behaviors toward Conan has changed, or from what I can at least recall, but I don't think he's made the complete connection, not yet anyways; I'm sure he has the potential to find out.

thorongil · Post by **thorongil** » May 27th, 2011, 8:26 pm

Shuusgirl wrote:
thorongil wrote:
Shuusgirl wrote: I once found a Holmes quote about the difference between Shinichi and Kogoro, but I've lost it so if anyone knows what I'm talking about...
Anyway, the gist of it is that a good detective never makes a theory before looking at the facts, because he'll start to twist the facts to suit the theory instead of twisting an idea of what happened to fit the facts.
that reminds of the last vermouth arc case with jodie, sonoko and ran, seems as ran is more aware of what is needed to be a good detective than him, he would have just blurted out what he thought (and if it wasn't for his fame most people would probably sue him for badmouthing etc) and once again stuck with same thing ran stuck, if it wasn't for kudo she would most probably not have said her theory out loud

i won't doubt that kogoro has quite the sharp mind if it wasn't for his lazyness and short temper... but still ... if i recall right it has yet to be shown him solving a case completly alone in FULL detail like conan (canonwise,in the movie with the cruiser he did it alone, i believe
No all by himself, though that one he did realize that his friend wasn't the other guy's lover but his daughter, Shinichi didn't get that at all. (Wow that sounded like a soap opera).
Found it, finally!
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." (A Scandal in Bohemia).

but that's more or less something you have experience yourself and can't read out of a detective book isn't it?... but i do give him credit for that (although it seems like i don't want to give him any

)

about his behavior... i'm not so sure about that.... sometimes it seems so but then again not...

blackgin · Post by **blackgin** » May 31st, 2011, 12:35 am

One thing I can say about Kogoro that he better improve real quick because Conan may not be around forever.

When the day comes, we can say farewell "Sleeping Kogoro".

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