[Files 775-777] Target on Tape

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Who are the kidnappers and what were they after?

Gin and Vodka - in Vodka's car. They were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random B.O. members who were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random criminals who were after the carpet, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who were after what was inside the vase, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who wanted to kidnap the "girl who was living with Agasa" in order to demand a ransom
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Two criminals who were referred to in Chiba's First Love Case
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Two criminals who had something to do with a former case in which Haibara wore those clothes, and for some reason, they are after her, but they mistook Ayumi for her
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Billy and Fusae have gone wild!
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THESE TWO!
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Post by FanOfShinichi »

I agree with dk.

The kidnappers are obviously not BO, so is the black shadows on the car, since every time Gosho makes us think someone's a BO member, they're not (which makes it really boring  >:D ). Plus, even if they were BO members, why would they let Agasa live ? It's not the BO's style (unless Agasa is the boss  ;D ).

Plus, nothing has been confirmed if the black shadows we see on the car are really the kidnappers. Maybe their target is Okiya instead, who knows ? Or maybe they're FBI ???

P/S: And just a few minutes ago that I thought this was just a random Detective-boys-eating-curry-case...........
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BO ARC! ef YEAH! YEAHYEAHYEAHYEAH~~~ /jk

Would be too obviously.... :-\

But at least we see Okiya stalking Haibara. Also Haibara would make an awesome mom, she reminds me more and more of Eri especially when she was pissed it looked just like the time when Eri was scolding Ran and Shinichi when they were children. XD
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FanOfShinichi wrote: I agree with dk.

The kidnappers are obviously not BO, so is the black shadows on the car, since every time Gosho makes us think someone's a BO member, they're not (which makes it really boring  >:D ). Plus, even if they were BO members, why would they let Agasa live ? It's not the BO's style (unless Agasa is the boss  ;D ).

Plus, nothing has been confirmed if the black shadows we see on the car are really the kidnappers. Maybe their target is Okiya instead, who knows ? Or maybe they're FBI ???

P/S: And just a few minutes ago that I thought this was just a random Detective-boys-eating-curry-case...........
LOl at that. I also thought it was another boring DB case because of the 1st page...haha (conan eating again, like the ramen case.....he's such a glutton XD)
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James Rye wrote: BO ARC! ef YEAH! YEAHYEAHYEAHYEAH~~~ /jk

Would be too obviously.... :-\

But at least we see Okiya stalking Haibara. Also Haibara would make an awesome mom, she reminds me more and more of Eri especially when she was pissed it looked just like the time when Eri was scolding Ran and Shinichi when they were children. XD
seeing this made me veery surprised...i think haibara's personality is gradually changing...
did gosho just made her a bit more childish...if not, cheerful and trashed the old leave-me-alone look of her's?
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I laughed she slapped Genta  ;D
She's opening up a bit more, I agree. (She's being kinder to the Detective Boys)
It strikes me strange that she was wearing her hat in the supermarket, and also, what happened to her B.O. radar when Okiya was stalking then? :O
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Sato wrote: It's likely they plan not to ask for ransom, I think they want Ayumi to do something for them and keep her as their prisoner. Could it be carpet worth more than the vase?
Assume Conan's theory is right (most likely true)

If the carpet is worthy, they won't use it to wrap Ayumi who's covered with coffee.
FanOfShinichi wrote: I agree with dk.

The kidnappers are obviously not BO, so is the black shadows on the car, since every time Gosho makes us think someone's a BO member, they're not (which makes it really boring  >:D ). Plus, even if they were BO members, why would they let Agasa live ? It's not the BO's style (unless Agasa is the boss  ;D ).

Plus, nothing has been confirmed if the black shadows we see on the car are really the kidnappers. Maybe their target is Okiya instead, who knows ? Or maybe they're FBI ???

P/S: And just a few minutes ago that I thought this was just a random Detective-boys-eating-curry-case...........
There should be two people to carry the carpet, so it's likely that the two persons in the car are kidnappers.
SZ5531 wrote: I laughed she slapped Genta  ;D
She's opening up a bit more, I agree. (She's being kinder to the Detective Boys)
It strikes me strange that she was wearing her hat in the supermarket, and also, what happened to her B.O. radar when Okiya was stalking then? :O
Her 'radar' is not always working, she didn't sense Numabuchi before

One more thing, i noticed that Ai is using left hand to phone and record the video. Isn't she right-handed ?
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They don't have any choice left, and Ayumi will make sure they got caught by police but kidnappers won't take the risk. They may have items that can brush off stain marks. I predict they will go for the vase next and there will be struggle taken place.
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dk wrote:
Sato wrote: It's likely they plan not to ask for ransom, I think they want Ayumi to do something for them and keep her as their prisoner. Could it be carpet worth more than the vase?
Assume Conan's theory is right (most likely true)

If the carpet is worthy, they won't use it to wrap Ayumi who's covered with coffee.
FanOfShinichi wrote: I agree with dk.

The kidnappers are obviously not BO, so is the black shadows on the car, since every time Gosho makes us think someone's a BO member, they're not (which makes it really boring  >:D ). Plus, even if they were BO members, why would they let Agasa live ? It's not the BO's style (unless Agasa is the boss  ;D ).

Plus, nothing has been confirmed if the black shadows we see on the car are really the kidnappers. Maybe their target is Okiya instead, who knows ? Or maybe they're FBI ???

P/S: And just a few minutes ago that I thought this was just a random Detective-boys-eating-curry-case...........
There should be two people to carry the carpet, so it's likely that the two persons in the car are kidnappers.
SZ5531 wrote: I laughed she slapped Genta  ;D
She's opening up a bit more, I agree. (She's being kinder to the Detective Boys)
It strikes me strange that she was wearing her hat in the supermarket, and also, what happened to her B.O. radar when Okiya was stalking then? :O
Her 'radar' is not always working, she didn't sense Numabuchi before

One more thing, i noticed that Ai is using left hand to phone and record the video. Isn't she right-handed ?
waaah...an imposter!!
just kidding XD
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dk wrote:
Sato wrote: It's likely they plan not to ask for ransom, I think they want Ayumi to do something for them and keep her as their prisoner. Could it be carpet worth more than the vase?
Assume Conan's theory is right (most likely true)

If the carpet is worthy, they won't use it to wrap Ayumi who's covered with coffee.
FanOfShinichi wrote: I agree with dk.

The kidnappers are obviously not BO, so is the black shadows on the car, since every time Gosho makes us think someone's a BO member, they're not (which makes it really boring  >:D ). Plus, even if they were BO members, why would they let Agasa live ? It's not the BO's style (unless Agasa is the boss  ;D ).

Plus, nothing has been confirmed if the black shadows we see on the car are really the kidnappers. Maybe their target is Okiya instead, who knows ? Or maybe they're FBI ???

P/S: And just a few minutes ago that I thought this was just a random Detective-boys-eating-curry-case...........
There should be two people to carry the carpet, so it's likely that the two persons in the car are kidnappers.
SZ5531 wrote: I laughed she slapped Genta  ;D
She's opening up a bit more, I agree. (She's being kinder to the Detective Boys)
It strikes me strange that she was wearing her hat in the supermarket, and also, what happened to her B.O. radar when Okiya was stalking then? :O
Her 'radar' is not always working, she didn't sense Numabuchi before

One more thing, i noticed that Ai is using left hand to phone and record the video. Isn't she right-handed ?
And she is!  :o :o
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SZ5531 wrote:
dk wrote: One more thing, i noticed that Ai is using left hand to phone and record the video. Isn't she right-handed ?
And she is!  :o :o
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Sato wrote: They don't have any choice left, and Ayumi will make sure they got caught by police but kidnappers won't take the risk. They may have items that can brush off stain marks. I predict they will go for the vase next and there will be struggle taken place.
They can pretend to be appraisers, saying the vase is not expensive and pay for them with low price (or at least try this method first), no need to went through trouble of kidnapping Ayumi. I don't think they aim for the vase.
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SZ5531 wrote:
dk wrote: One more thing, i noticed that Ai is using left hand to phone and record the video. Isn't she right-handed ?
And she is!  :o :o
Try taking a picture of yourself in standing in front of a mirror.
I forgot that is Agasa's glasses, so shameful  :)

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It could simply be that this were the kidnappers that the police was warning schools about in a past file (someone commented on this earlier), certainly it doesn't seem likely they are BO. They could have seen Agasa's video and though that an inventor like him had money. They didn't actually know if the vase was valuable or they didn't have the connections to sell art but they thought if they captured the girl, Agasa would pay them a ransom either from his "fortune" or form selling the vase...

Still my above theory seems trashy after Agasa having being already kidnapped not so long ago...

I don't knwo if there will be real plot development is this case but sooner or later the whole Sera vs Okiya should give us plenty of fun.
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Maybe these 2 persons in a car are not kidnappers since usually a normal kidnapper won't be appeared as black man, always at least wear a mask to hide their face. I think these 2 persons are someone from FBI, CIA or other great organization except for BO who are targeting Okiya.

On page 4, why do Genta say "that neechan from Conan's place", so Genta forgot Ran already? And Mitsuhiko said "that high-school detective he knew", so Mitsuhiko forgot Kudo Shinichi already?

Why do Conan so paranoid when he heard Sera's name? Conan didn't suspect Sera as BO member right.

I wonder if we can see the scene for Haibara slapping Genta after this chapter out in anime.
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The last page just makes me laugh. Let's enhance!
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I'm so glad that the story came back to the main thread again. ::)
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