[Files 775-777] Target on Tape

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Who are the kidnappers and what were they after?

Gin and Vodka - in Vodka's car. They were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random B.O. members who were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random criminals who were after the carpet, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who were after what was inside the vase, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who wanted to kidnap the "girl who was living with Agasa" in order to demand a ransom
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Two criminals who were referred to in Chiba's First Love Case
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Two criminals who had something to do with a former case in which Haibara wore those clothes, and for some reason, they are after her, but they mistook Ayumi for her
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Billy and Fusae have gone wild!
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THESE TWO!
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sonoci wrote: I know the Sera seeing the footage would seem to make her suspicious, but with Gosho it's pretty much the opposite for me.

I mean, if Sera were a BO member or something, why would she mention the footage to Mitsuhiko and Genta? Not only does that reveal that she's a bit too interested (since a simple check like the one at the end would show you'd need to be looking for Haibara in order to spot her) it's not something a BO member would usually do IMO, chatting and acting suspicious towards children. ...Children that would very likely later tell Conan about what happened.

Anyway, MAN I can't wait for the coming files. ;D I'm so excited~
HAHA YES, whenever some character in DC is TOO suspicious, to find out who he really is, I just think the opposite. If Sera is suspicious, that means she is not who we think she is.

I just hope she will appear again in this case  ;D. *too excited*

Also, Ai on those clothes? Too cute, I wanna see Sherry like that =D
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I don't know about you people, but that look Sera and Okiya shared was NOT the look two strangers give one another at first sight. I'm not sure about a former B.O member, but there is definitely some underlying connection between the two. Imagine, Sera is Akai's sister and Okiya is Akai BAM there's your connection
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Okiya is Bourbon and he met Akai while he was undercover as Rye. If Akai mentioned that he had a sister while undercover Okiya would have noticed the resemblance. In addition if Sera is here looking for clues about her brother it would make sense for her to have info on someone like Okiya given his living situation and sudden appearance. The question that this raises is, exactly how much does Sera know and is she just playing dumb around Conan and his friends to keep her cover

This all seems redundant but considering the recent developments I felt the need to reiterate. this all looks too good man, at this rate Okiya might actual do something of value in the near future
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Can I just say.....
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Plot!
I didn't scare it away, did I?
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psyko_stevey_999 wrote:
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I don't know about you people, but that look Sera and Okiya shared was NOT the look two strangers give one another at first sight. I'm not sure about a former B.O member, but there is definitely some underlying connection between the two. Imagine, Sera is Akai's sister and Okiya is Akai BAM there's your connection
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Okiya is Bourbon and he met Akai while he was undercover as Rye. If Akai mentioned that he had a sister while undercover Okiya would have noticed the resemblance. In addition if Sera is here looking for clues about her brother it would make sense for her to have info on someone like Okiya given his living situation and sudden appearance. The question that this raises is, exactly how much does Sera know and is she just playing dumb around Conan and his friends to keep her cover

This all seems redundant but considering the recent developments I felt the need to reiterate. this all looks too good man, at this rate Okiya might actual do something of value in the near future
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Akai won't talk about his family to those dangerous people right? It endanger his cover identity as well (when you lies better talk as less as you can, avoid your story to conflict each other) And of he did talk, mean Akai and Bourbon pretty close until Akai's identity blow up and Bourbon start to hate him.

Is it just me. I saw just Okiya spot Sera but not the other way around.
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I believe it is too soon for BO to take notice of Haibara. Either Ayumi or Ai they intended to kidnap, the Kidnapper probably not BO. "Good guy" like FBI probably won't hurt Agasa. But I still believe the plot is there, by the form of Okiya-Sera interaction and even their action alone.
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Sera can't possibly figure it out just by a glance, this assuming she even saw Okiya, since he was hiding. The fact that he hid may prove a connection tho.
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leokiko wrote:
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She can't possibly figure it out just by a glance, this assuming she even saw him, since he was hiding. The fact that he hid may prove a connection tho.
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But the boys did tell her the name of the tenant, so she may know something based on that.  It's quite possible that Sera and Akai are siblings and this is some sort of code between them (or something he used not expecting her to be there).
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We can probably drop the spoiler boxes now. :-X
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ok it is so obvious in that file that she saw him, no one except Conan uses that smirk every time he turns a corner. She had to have seen him, or at least recognized him in conversation
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but i do see what you mean about keeping his identity secret. You never know though, I mean once Akai's cover was blown it stands to reason that the B.O would do a background check on the man they thought was Rye.
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Commi-Ninja wrote:
leokiko wrote:
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She can't possibly figure it out just by a glance, this assuming she even saw him, since he was hiding. The fact that he hid may prove a connection tho.
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But the boys did tell her the name of the tenant, so she may know something based on that.  It's quite possible that Sera and Akai are siblings and this is some sort of code between them (or something he used not expecting her to be there).
But he couldn't have possibly hear what they were saying from there. Maybe she investigated Subaru before, and thought he was suspicious, OR that he was similiar to Akai. And the boys just said: the "Subaru guy". In my opinion, Sera's comment was weird. She talked like she knew something.

I'm positively sure she didn't see him, since he was hiding. She looked there like that because she was either suspicious of something while looking at the curtains at that time or she was already investigating everything about the resident of that house  ::)
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If he could see her it stands to reason that, even if it was an incredibly obscured angle, she could see him, at least partially. But even if she didn't see him she may have been aware he was watching them. Either way I think we can all agree that there is definitely something going on between Sera and Okiya
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Yes that's true. I guess we will have to wait for the next file and hope Gosho don't do a normal case in the end.
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if this ends up just being 'some case' I might blow a gasket, I can only handle so much. I am looking forward to June though, I mean we got plot development hopefully plus London Arc coming up on the animation schedule
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Guys... what's all this about Sera being Akai's sister? Who ever said she was HIS sister? I have an idea:
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Sera is Eisuke's sister, aka Kir. If Okiya = Akai, he would need to stay hidden from her in case the other BO members were nearby or monitoring her, even though he knows she's safe. However, Kir can't appear as her usual self in front of everyone because she was a famous reporter; if she did, she'd be immediately recognized. This would also explain how she seemed to know Conan before Sera's intro.

Also, regarding the car, it's quite possible that the BO could have used a rental car (or a stolen one, etc) to avoid Haibara noticing that it was them immediately. Gin's Porsche would be too obvious, and so far we haven't seen any actual other cars, just motorcycles, which are impractical for kidnappings, obviously. Of course, who knows, it could have been her parents for all we know... actually come to think of it... didn't that car look a bit like the one James and Jodie have been using...? I'd need to go back and check...
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This is going to be a fun summer. Even if absolutely nothing else happens outside of this case, we'll still be inching up toward 800 (which will undoubtedly be something special in my mind). That should happen around... December? Maybe January, factoring in breaks.

I'm of the opinion that Gosho is doing so much plot in a row so that he has all of the build-up needed for the next confrontation (File 800'ish).

Also: Sera is Akai's sister.
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