Files 771-774 Discussion Thread: The Forced Deduction (Yes,

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Silver1412 wrote: Yeah... But we DO know she reminds him of somebody! Maybe ANOTHER childhood friend? I hope not...
no,please,not a childhood friend!!!!!
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Blah wrote:
xpon wrote: not from ran kicking!
I really didn't want to go find this but...--> http://www.mangarush.com/manga/detective-conan/140/p-4

Perhaps you do not think that counts?
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Officer Kaoko wrote: Sera has bags under her eyes identical to Shuichi Akai's.
Using that argument, I can also prove that I'm Akai. :P

Who am I to argue with Chekhov? BUt I'd like to go one step further: Sera is also Bourbon. Because that would be fricking awesome
^ indeed!

In the wiki for Sayla Mass it says that in the "radically different version of director Yoshiyuki Tomino's novelization" she asks Amuro "to kill her brother".
Also Bourbon said he/she is the only one that can kill Akai (if I remember correctly :V).

Would be funny if there is also a father who turns out to be anokata :P XD

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Silver1412 wrote: There's this thing about Sera...
1. She's from America.
2. She's damn smart.
3. She seems similiar to somebody Kudo knows.
4. She looks like Akai.

DEDUCTION:  IT'S AKAI'S SISTER! Or other relative. Doesn't matter. She still is important. And from this chapter I'll say she knows it ain't Kogoro that solves all those cases. After all why else would she put a pressure on the fact that Conan is always around when Kogoro solves something. She may don't knowthat he's Shinichi but she knows he's smart.  And that it's him solving EVERY LAST BIT OF A CASE.
I think the same...but it's too simple,so I wonder if Gosho is planning something completly different...
Somehow, it sounds too easy for her just to be the sister that looks for akai.
I would also be disappointed if she's just a normal, but smart girl that looks for her brother, and nothing more. There should be at least some kind of secret or twist :/
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Well, I am glad as to see more of Sera Image. I won't vote now until further clues are shown Image. Oh yeah, Abs. you forgot to make a poll
The possibility for Sera to be Akai's little sister just keeps increasing (nice found about the reference, Chek Image ). This case is really interesting... I am on standby for the next file. But there may be another possibility... I am curious about Sera's parents Image... do they really exist? Or it was just a made up. It's hard to imagine that Akai has parents... *imagines the entire family with bags beneath their eyes Image*
I can't believe that I just imagined Akai's mother chubby woman, with a curly hair, and big breasts Image...
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Abs. wrote:
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I feel the same way

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Officer Kaoko wrote: The possibility for Sera to be Akai's little sister just keeps increasing (nice found about the reference, Chek Image ).
Let me make myself clear about this again.

I told Chek about it.

It came from HADAA originally.

Before we knew Sera's first name, even.
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Abs. wrote:
Officer Kaoko wrote: The possibility for Sera to be Akai's little sister just keeps increasing (nice found about the reference, Chek Image ).
Let me make myself clear about this again.

I told Chek about it.

It came from HADAA originally.

Before we knew Sera's first name, even.
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If you're gonna insist on giving credit, at least give it where it's due is all
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Sera dose say she is born in amerca and yet she is japanese... This brings certain A.S Person into my mine ( who is also a Japanese living in america for his work (FBI))
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doublemoonlight wrote: Sera dose say she is born in amerca and yet she is japanese... This brings certain A.S Person into my mine ( who is also a Japanese living in america for his work (FBI))
She said she was born and raised in Japan
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i really like sera in this one
she seems really smart....and she already knows that conan has good deductive skills...so i think she's
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Yeah, I'm really hoping that she's not just looking for Akai, but I'm totally fine with her being Akai's sister.  
Then again, Gosho's a fan of symmetry...
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Alright, gonna update my theory on the case with a look over the file and the translation sheet to cover my bases.

First off, as I expected, Sera is now actively using 'Conan-kun' instead of little boy. It seemed to be common sense she would, but before I couldn't be sure. Conan has also mentioned the fact that she knew his name, so at least he didn't brush it off. And...he does have a hunch on Sera, still not worried in the slightest xD

Onto the actual case theory.
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I'm still going with my initial idea that it wasn't the bomber's idea to 'bomb' the place. There's some minor things I've reconsidered though with the translation.

Instead of the bombs being fake, the bomber (Sawaguri) thinks they are when they're actually real. Set up by the real murderer to do this only to psyche Ran (and coincidentally Sera) out, it was also set up to eventually get rid of Sawaguri to clear up the evidence. The 'beating the "murderer" to death thing is probably going to be true enough.

As for the real murderer in this scenario, I'm going to go with my thoughts before and say the one with the glasses Nihei Sumika. Along with my hunch, the fact she's the one who mentions the 'meeting' in the first place just seems odd. Of course, this is the most flimsy part of the craziness as I don't think the line that's going to corner the murderer has actually come up yet. So until the next file, this will be open for change to me :P Not like it matters, lol
One last thing that actually has nothing to do with the case but actually with Sera:
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She never said Agasa, but the fact she knew about the professor... That just didn't sit right with me. I feel something's up (though that should be obvious)
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sonoci wrote: She never said Agasa, but the fact she knew about the professor... That just didn't sit right with me. I feel something's up (though that should be obvious)
Oh, def.
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S.G.T. wrote:
doublemoonlight wrote: Sera dose say she is born in amerca and yet she is japanese... This brings certain A.S Person into my mine ( who is also a Japanese living in america for his work (FBI))
She said she was born and raised in Japan
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woops I meant she was born in Japan and yet lived in America, Kinda like Akai Shuich.
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doublemoonlight wrote:
S.G.T. wrote:
doublemoonlight wrote: Sera dose say she is born in amerca and yet she is japanese... This brings certain A.S Person into my mine ( who is also a Japanese living in america for his work (FBI))
She said she was born and raised in Japan
2nd page
woops I meant she was born in Japan and yet lived in America, Kinda like Akai Shuich.
Haha, did you mean to leave off the last "i"?  I'm not making fun of you, I promise.  It just makes me laugh because there's a boy in my Japanese class that always says, "Konich" instead of "Konichi wa" when we come into class.
Anyway, back on topic,
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sonoci wrote: She never said Agasa, but the fact she knew about the professor... That just didn't sit right with me. I feel something's up (though that should be obvious)
Oh, def.
Totally did NOT think of this, and am now weirded out.  Why would she know about him?  Maybe articles where Agasa solved the mystery?  She's certainly latched onto Conan and his part in the deductions...maybe she's really a psychic or something  ;D
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