The Boy Who Cried Wolf: (FILE 759-761) Vote For The Saviour

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Who will save Detective Boys and Haibara

Conan-kun
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19%
Ran or Kogoro
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6%
Metropolitan Police Officers
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10%
Okiya Subaru
13
19%
Detective Boys save themselves
26
38%
Others
6
9%
 
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Oh I seriously doubt he actually will, I just really hope so. Especially since in the manga the DB don't even really know anything about Shinichi, you know?
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To say that Conan knew that they were not the kid's parents by genetic appearance is not a real kind of "detective analysis", so i think there will be something else that's more "detective analyzed" proof, which should be solved by DB.
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Does anyone here noticed that the drawing in this chapter is weird. I've read through page 1 - 10, and the drawing is different from the other chaps. Conan's sick face, haibara's face looks different, and some circumstances are weird too (haibara talk about conan's sickness, yield at him part).
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I usually don't meddle with cases that aren't published in my country, but this looked like an independent story and I was bored. ;P *bounces* I'd love the Detective Boys to get out of the trouble by themselves, especially when there's Ai with the kids.
Kleene Onigiri wrote: Edit: Also just noticed. The boy has a Cleft chin, while the fake parents don't.
Sorry about quoting such an old post, but I don't think it can be the chin. The key picture on page 7 doesn't properly show the woman's face, and the man also has a small but visible cleft chin – not that much of a dimple, but still not round nor pointy. Instead I'd say Conan sees one of the most basic examples of dominant traits: the hairline. The pointy hairline the boy has is called a widow's peak, which the fake parents don't have.

Whatever the Mendelian trait, I'll lose all my faith in Haibara if she can't figure it out. She should know this kind of stuff! :<
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After read raw 760
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My opinion about who going to solve change dramatically. I though it will be Conan but...
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I voted for DB saving themselves cause there has to be a reason for Conan being sick. About how he knew? I think it was that conversation and the way that fake father had grabbed him by his shirt. Seriously, would any parent do that? I don't really think so...
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Hi, I'm new here and I think what I'm most interested in after seeing the raw is
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who Haibara sent the text to, if it's Conan(as seems most likely) then it looks like she won't get a reply very soon which would leave it down to the DBs and Haibara to sort it out. How they would go about doing this I'm not sure.
The other option is that she sent a text to Takagi-keiji or Agasa-hakase telling them about the situation, if it's those two then the outcome would probably vary wildy depending on who it is. I'm personally hoping for Takagi, shame it's probably not gonna happen  :'(
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User 4869 wrote: After read raw 760
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My opinion about who going to solve change dramatically. I though it will be Conan but...
Wow, you are ahead of us who relying on DCTP to provide translated DC comics.
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Yeah! 760 is on! I laughed at part: I trust Haibara to not let them go into the fakers apartment. And... She was the one to propose this. But why did it had to be a case with Japanese words?! Now I can't solve it!
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Spoiler: hint to solving the code
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HADAA wrote:
Spoiler: hint to solving the code
tasukete means help!
Yeah, thats true, but considering he wanted some other characters, I will still wait for the entire message. I guess this case just can't be solved by not-japanese-speaking people.  :(
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I don't know if it has already been said but here is what I got from the case so far. They are not related, he couldn't have inherited the chin, noes, and eyebrows from those two. I had meant too post this when I first read chapter 759 but forgot. I haven't checked with a punnet square yet.
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Xcommando wrote:
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I don't know if it has already been said but here is what I got from the case so far. They are not related, he couldn't have inherited the chin, noes, and eyebrows from those two. I had meant too post this when I first read chapter 759 but forgot. I haven't checked with a punnet square yet.
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I'm not so sure about the "chin" because in this file, Masao is not showing any cleft at all. Perhaps the cleft on the chin is just a smudge or something. The slanted eyes coming from the "father" could be a hint, though.
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breva wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Shuusgirl wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
kholoudsafir wrote:
Soreiyu wrote: Well she was blushing for some reason... I'm not sure if that's what they meant by "acting weird" though.
blushing is weird enough to me. as I said it might be nothing , I am just hoping :-\.
You guys totally didn't get the first page, right? Aww, how cute of you ;D
What are you referring to?  That she was checking his fever?
I dunno, she wasn't blushing that much for that long.  Conan however... :D
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and I agree that the conversation was odd, I just thought there had to be a physical clue as well, knowing Conan. I'm more curious to know if he's gonna become Shinichi again, since that's what happens EVERY TIME he gets a cold xD
There is a physical clue, the cleft chin on the boy. (plus the pointy nose)
Laurelin wrote: I usually don't meddle with cases that aren't published in my country, but this looked like an independent story and I was bored. ;P *bounces* I'd love the Detective Boys to get out of the trouble by themselves, especially when there's Ai with the kids.
Kleene Onigiri wrote: Edit: Also just noticed. The boy has a Cleft chin, while the fake parents don't.
Sorry about quoting such an old post, but I don't think it can be the chin. The key picture on page 7 doesn't properly show the woman's face, and the man also has a small but visible cleft chin – not that much of a dimple, but still not round nor pointy. Instead I'd say Conan sees one of the most basic examples of dominant traits: the hairline. The pointy hairline the boy has is called a widow's peak, which the fake parents don't have.

Whatever the Mendelian trait, I'll lose all my faith in Haibara if she can't figure it out. She should know this kind of stuff! :<
Page 6
Page 7
Page 8
Page 15
Page 16

Picture 7? Sure, the reader doesn't see the chin. Which is strange actually. Page 6-7 you(the reader) doesn't see the chin of the fake mother at all. This usually doesn't happen. Not over and over when a person is show. Gosho tried to hide the face of the mother here, since on the next few pages, conan says that they aren't blood related. So the reader would turn back and compare child and parents. And wouldn't see the mother's chin. And also, the cleft chin is barely to notice.

But on page 15, some time after conan said they aren't blood related, you can see the fake mothers face and there is no cleft chin.
On page 16 you can see the cleft chin from the boy much better too now.

If you meant that conan couldn't see that. Well, first there are "pictures between the panels". So just because the reader doesn't see it on a panel, doesn't mean conan didn't.
And on page 6, the last panel. The reader is behind the fake parents and see them from the side. But Conan "is in front of them" (cellphone) and he can see them clearly. (fake parents don't have the hand in front of their own face)

Page 8 Conan says: "They weren't even blood-related, but they acted as if they were his biological parents!"
Page 7 the fake mother said: "... born from my aching belly" and the fake father: "And your slanted eyes came from father"
So conan had to know that they aren't blood-related. Which should be a genetic attribute. The cleft chin.
The strangeness in the talk was, that the fake parents wanted to point out that they are blood related, tho they aren't. Even if they would have adopted the boy, the parents wouldn't point it out in front of strangers so much. And conan noticed :P
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Well, it looks like the Detective Boys noticed something that the adults don't: Conans expression when he solved a case.


To bad it really seems to be a word - puzzle, which makes it kind of impossible (for most of us) to figure out the message. On the other hand we pretty much know all the facts already. I still think the "robbers" are looking for something that is hidden in the apartment that was hidden there by the guy who lived there before. Which is why they can't leave until they have found it.

On the other hand the question remains how the Detective Boys are supposed to "win". 4 children (+1) against 2 adults with a hostage (and one has a knife) is not the best situation to be in...
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