Is Kogoro awake during the deduction ? [703 spoiler alert]

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Is Kogoro awake during the deduction ? [703 spoiler alert]

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As we know (if you have read the latest chapter), during the last part of Conan deduction, kogoro suddenly explained the last part to Seta-san..

I wonder when exactly he conscious, was it during the deduction, or after conan finish up explaining the main case.. And Kogoro doesn't seem to be surprised about it, does he already know the thing about conan putting him to sleep ?
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Nope. ;)

Kogoro has just woke up and read the SMS he got seconds before Conan shot him with his watch...
Just the panel where Kogoro wakes up is missing, but he was not awake. ;)
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Nahh... he was just woke up right in time and start explaining.... and later he asked a question that showed how confused he was ^_^
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Ran is starting to suspect Conan's identity again (lately she has been glancing at Conan and asking for his deductions as if she held his opinions in high regards) but Conan is so careless as to use Kogoro right in front of her again.
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It always surprises me how Ran never catches Conan during one of his Sleeping Kogoro deductions. I mean, in 703, she is practically in a perfect line of sight to see Conan talking in the bowtie. :P
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Yuki wrote: It always surprises me how Ran never catches Conan during one of his Sleeping Kogoro deductions. I mean, in 703, she is practically in a perfect line of sight to see Conan talking in the bowtie. :P
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Tenken wrote: Ran is starting to suspect Conan's identity again (lately she has been looking at Conan and asking for his deductions as if she held his opinions in high regards) but Conan is so careless as to use Kogoro right in front of her again.
::sigh:: At this point I wouldn't be surprised if this were to show just how oblivious and stupid Ran is, just ignore all the contradictory evidence about how observant she is that Aoyama has shown and had other characters assert over the years.

Maybe she's "playing along", but I'd expect a little more hint about that if she noticed Conan using the bow tie. At least a glare or an ellipses filled thought bubble. (Unless she's already fiddled with the bow tie when she was taking his blazer to be dry cleaned or something off-scene. Meh, in that case it'd be more interesting to know in the first place, rather than see a repeat the volume 14-26 suspicion, IMO.)

Haibara's not being treated any better either if all she can manage to do about her suspicions about Okiya is nag Conan.

And forget Ran! Conan has all those cellphone cameras to worry about! WTF is he doing!? Especially if he knew there were no real bombs so it wasn't a desperate situation!

One Org. scheme must involve dumping lead into the Tokyo water supply.... it's working. Especially if Okiya turns out to be Bourbon (but not Akai re-infiltrated into the Org. as Bourbon).
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Yuki wrote: It always surprises me how Ran never catches Conan during one of his Sleeping Kogoro deductions. I mean, in 703, she is practically in a perfect line of sight to see Conan talking in the bowtie. :P
actually i found that weird also that conan did that in front of Ran AND that she didn't notice anything(maybe she notice,but doesn't want to show it in such a moment,who knows)
but still,it really surprising and weird :-[
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Yuki wrote: It always surprises me how Ran never catches Conan during one of his Sleeping Kogoro deductions. I mean, in 703, she is practically in a perfect line of sight to see Conan talking in the bowtie. :P
actually i found that weird also that conan did that in front of Ran AND that she didn't notice anything(maybe she notice,but doesn't want to show it in such a moment,who knows)
but still,it really surprising and weird :-[
maybe I'm wrong, but maybe Ran finally accepted the fact that Conan is a smart kid... I mean there are various times when Ran said to the client that Maybe Conan can solve this and that even though her dad is there...  :-\
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If we can see the controls on the bow tie there then probably so could the culprit, and probably any number of cellphone cameras with a similar perspective from the crowd in 703. {ETA: There are plenty of examples of how visible the bow tie controls should be from the crowd's perspectives in 703 itself, but they aren't on the DCTP viewer yet as far as I can tell.} Using the voice changer in plain view of a few people who are already used to sleeping Kogoro, plus a few suspects who have more to be worried about than watching Conan, is one thing, but doing that in front of a crowd that can broadcast it nation world wide is beyond reckless.
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It would be kinda complicated when Conan would be discovered as Shinichi when he´s in a crwod and solves a case at the same time too. So maybe Gosho just let it sliped and hoped nobody thinks to much about it.^^

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I didn´t see anyone who talked bad about Ran (yet :P ) and most people here are cool enough to not bas a chara. And Haibara wasn´t only nagging about Okiya, the one time when she said that Conan actually knows Okiya is a BO-member and that he only let him into his house to be able to observe him for example. Conan was shocked, surprised and for me it looks like he was icecold caught.^g^
Would be interesting when that´s the case and Conan was using Ai as a bait to lure Bourbo out, cause he has enough to only sit around and do nothing, but that´s probably not the real deal. ;)
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Haibara's not being treated any better either if all she can manage to do about her suspicions about Okiya is nag Conan.
 
hmmmmm,i don't how Haibara came into  this thread,anyway i don't know what can she do in her actual condition concerning okiya(she wanted to escape first,then she tried to warn Conan about okiya being a bo member,and she wanted conan to kick okiya out of shinichi's house,i don't call it nagging,)

concerning the fact that conan used the bowtie in front of everybody,well, it's reckless but all of them were watching at kogoro and they focus on the deduction,so they don't pay attention to conan!
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AICHAN wrote:
Haibara's not being treated any better either if all she can manage to do about her suspicions about Okiya is nag Conan.
 
hmmmmm,i don't how Haibara came into  this thread,anyway i don't know what can she do in her actual condition concerning okiya(she wanted to escape first,then she tried to warn Conan about okiya being a bo member,and she wanted conan to kick okiya out of shinichi's house,i don't call it nagging,)

concerning the fact that conan used the bowtie in front of everybody,well, it's reckless but all of them were watching at kogoro and they focus on the deduction,so they don't pay attention to conan!
I don't know when she comes in... but I agree with AICHAN here, Haibara gave Conan warnings, trying hard to hold back Conan's recklessness.... I don't think she's just plain nagging him...
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Khinkhun wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
Haibara's not being treated any better either if all she can manage to do about her suspicions about Okiya is nag Conan.
 
hmmmmm,i don't how Haibara came into  this thread,anyway i don't know what can she do in her actual condition concerning okiya(she wanted to escape first,then she tried to warn Conan about okiya being a bo member,and she wanted conan to kick okiya out of shinichi's house,i don't call it nagging,)

concerning the fact that conan used the bowtie in front of everybody,well, it's reckless but all of them were watching at kogoro and they focus on the deduction,so they don't pay attention to conan!
I don't know when she comes in... but I agree with AICHAN here, Haibara gave Conan warnings, trying hard to hold back Conan's recklessness.... I don't think she's just plain nagging him...
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Actually I've been quite unhappy with Gosho for a long time! cos in the beginning he would always make Conan hide somewhere before doing his deduction show. (hence people like Heiji noticing that Conan was always missing during the Sleeping Kogoro show). so now it seems that either Conan is becoming very careless or reckless, OR Gosho is becoming lazy! :/

but I just tell myself that everyone's attention is so focused on Kogoro that they don't notice Conan (and if he lkeeps facing Kogoro it would just look like he is watching the show as well).
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