Detective Conan 542-543: Ikkaku Rock's Disappearing Fish dis

[Girl19]

Who cares about other anime? DC for the win.

I think you missed the point?

I don't think so.

[kkslider5552000]

Who cares about other anime? DC for the win.

I think you missed the point?

I don't think so.

yes you did, because other anime = competition = less ratings for Conan = better chance of cancellation for DCFTW

I mean, there are only 3 anime that I think are even close to being as good as Conan, so I agree with what you meant. Or what I think you meant or...

[Girl19]

Who cares about other anime? DC for the win.

I think you missed the point?

I don't think so.

yes you did, because other anime = competition = less ratings for Conan = better chance of cancellation for DCFTW

I mean, there are only 3 anime that I think are even close to being as good as Conan, so I agree with what you meant. Or what I think you meant or...

What I meant is that DC is the best (well at least in my opinion) and it WILL end when it is supposed to end. As far as I'm concerned, I don't worry about its ratings because I don't think lower ratings will be the cause to end DC, mainly because I believe DC will never get that low, or it'll end right before it gets that low.

In short - I'm too optimistic. xD And destiny will decide when DC shall end, so why worry?

[kkslider5552000]

Who cares about other anime? DC for the win.

I think you missed the point?

I don't think so.

yes you did, because other anime = competition = less ratings for Conan = better chance of cancellation for DCFTW

I mean, there are only 3 anime that I think are even close to being as good as Conan, so I agree with what you meant. Or what I think you meant or...

What I meant is that DC is the best (well at least in my opinion) and it WILL end when it is supposed to end. As far as I'm concerned, I don't worry about its ratings because I don't think lower ratings will be the cause to end DC, mainly because I believe DC will never get that low, or it'll end right before it gets that low.

In short - I'm too optimistic. xD And destiny will decide when DC will end, so why worry?

I agree but as anyone who watched wrestling in the late 90s can tell you, you wouldn't believe how quickly ratings can change for long running shows. (one show goes from a 3 to a 6 (with a decent amount of 7s in there too) in 2 years and another is pratically the complete opposite)

[Jd-]

Fact remains that the anime is hitting all-time lows in ratings week-in, week-out, and it only really seems to beat Yatterman

last time I checked ratings (a few months ago) it was still beating One Piece anime (based off of the best selling manga of all time, just so you know) so  ???

Well, we can go back for last week (when 543 aired) and look:

Saze-san (Fuji TV) -- 17.6%
Chibi Maruko-chan (Fuji TV) -- 11.6%
Crayon Shinchan (TV Asahi) -- 10.3%
Doreamon (TV Asahi) -- 10.2%
One Piece (Fuji TV) -- 10.1%
Dragon Ball (Fuji TV) -- 8.2%
Detective Conan (NTV) -- 5.9%
Yatterman (NTV) -- 5.0%
Fresh Pick! (TV Asahi) -- 5.0%
Naruto Shippuden (TV Tokyo) -- 4.7%

522 was the only airing of this year (outside of LvC and the TV version of Movie 12) to reach above 10% at all, and it hit 11.3%. The lowest of the year was 541 at 5.0%, which I do believe was the lowest of all time.

[GinRei]

Well, let's just hope Conan gets paired with Inuyasha in the fall and gets a ratings boost off of that.  Afterall, Conan doesn't really have much merchandise, so it can't get by with low ratings like Naruto and Bleach can.

[Jd-]

Well, let's just hope Conan gets paired with Inuyasha in the fall and gets a ratings boost off of that.  Afterall, Conan doesn't really have much merchandise, so it can't get by with low ratings like Naruto and Bleach can.

Indeed. That'd help out considerably.

A few more stats:

Overall average for the year to date: 8.0%. The series started off strong in the ratings with the 521-523 arc, but has steadily fallen with a few ups and downs here and there ever since. However, if we count the summer episodes, from 536~543, the average is around 6.3%. Such is the effect when 5 of those are AOs.

I have a question, how is Detective Conan's popularity in Japan? I always had the notion that it was very popular and very well-known, unlike here in America where it's virtually unknown (partly due to the name change).

After hearing this, i have a feeling that conan's one of the lesser-liked shows in Japan, but thats hard to believe since its been on for like 15 years

can someone kinda give me a popularity check with Detective Conan?

The manga is one of the few things that actually keeps Shounen Sunday in the game. They have very few other staples outside of Conan and MAJOR now that Inuyasha has ended, but it looks like the creator of Inuyasha's new series will attract more subscribers.

Conan has a unique share of the Japanese animation marketplace. It's obviously a lot easier for families to watch together--not many salarymen fathers would like to come home at 6:00 to watch Naruto and Bleach, of course. So, on that end, the name recognition is definitely up there and isn't always considered "just for kids" (all Trix style and the like ).

The movies still do well and are generally in the top 10 or so animated movies for the year, which is why I mentioned earlier that they're a great motivation to keep the anime skidding along.

[kkslider5552000]

Such is the effect when 5 of those are AOs.

It might be funny trying to explain this to people who don't pay attention to anime.

"So the ratings were lower for episodes that are new episodes instead of the ones based off of the comics that a lot of the audience has read?"
"yep."
"Even though it's a detective show and the whole idea is to be interested in and to figure out who actually murdered someone?"
"yep."
"..."
"..."

Thanks to both being spoiled by accident and because of my own inability to not want to see the spoilers sometimes, I have a feeling that ratings won't be this bad next year...

[GinRei]

Not when you tell them that the "new" (AO) episodes are horribad and either require no thinking at all, or ridiculous deus ex machinas that shouldn't be able to work based on reality and past examples in the series.

[kkslider5552000]

Not when you tell them that the "new" (AO) episodes are horribad and either require no thinking at all, or ridiculous deus ex machinas that shouldn't be able to work based on reality and past examples in the series.

I know.

I meant that only anime fans know that a lot of the time, using original ideas instead of what happened in the manga is bad.

I'm assuming the more...um...otaku-like fan are the ones that don't bother with the AOs. I generally enjoy the AOs but certainly not because they are good cases. More just because they are a fun way to spend 22 minutes. Which is something I've said about...maybe 3 manga episodes.

[GinRei]

If a non-anime fan doesn't understand, just compare it to every anime to movie and video game to movie release that Hollywood's done.  Tomb Raider alone should be enough to cover that argument.  ^_^

[kkslider5552000]

If a non-anime fan doesn't understand, just compare it to every anime to movie and video game to movie release that Hollywood's done.  Tomb Raider alone should be enough to cover that argument.  ^_^

So the Exploding car case and the Mask that Coldly Laughs (correct title?) are like the Mortal Kombat movies?


yes the Mortal Kombat movies were good shut up 

[Jd-]

Fun fact: Conan is 10 episodes plus from having more episodes than UNSOLVED MYSTERIES.

[soratothamax]

Who cares about other anime? DC for the win.

I think you missed the point?

I don't think so.

yes you did, because other anime = competition = less ratings for Conan = better chance of cancellation for DCFTW

I mean, there are only 3 anime that I think are even close to being as good as Conan, so I agree with what you meant. Or what I think you meant or...

What I meant is that DC is the best (well at least in my opinion) and it WILL end when it is supposed to end. As far as I'm concerned, I don't worry about its ratings because I don't think lower ratings will be the cause to end DC, mainly because I believe DC will never get that low, or it'll end right before it gets that low.

In short - I'm too optimistic. xD And destiny will decide when DC will end, so why worry?

I agree but as anyone who watched wrestling in the late 90s can tell you, you wouldn't believe how quickly ratings can change for long running shows. (one show goes from a 3 to a 6 (with a decent amount of 7s in there too) in 2 years and another is pratically the complete opposite)

That is so true.

Spoiler:

Like in America, Rugrats was the most popular cartoon on Nickelodeon, now this crap like Spongebob took over quickly

But Detective Conan to me is like the Japanese Scooby-Doo....it will never truely end as long as there are still millions of fans who knew it from the past overseas. Plus, it has a museum, a bridge, and a monument in a park over in Japan (I saw it lol) So it will be fairly popular for awhile. Why compare it now to ratings since six months ago? That wasn't too long ago.

But being too optimistic can make you blind to whats real. It may not last in popularity.

[ssjup81]

I broke down and decided to watch these episodes.  I was hesitant to since I'd read this case for the manga.  These were one of these weaker cases.  The only good thing about it is that it allowed the audience to speculate about Okiya, and as I mentioned in the manga section,

Spoiler:

I still don't feel that Okiya has anything to do with the BO entirely, and feel that his being a Bourbon drinker is just a red herring.

I don't care what his opinion of the series is.

I care that he is repeating himself and thinks that the creator of the series has to agree with him.

And here I thought that repetitiveness was a norm in Japan as far as entertainment goes.  If it's not broke, don't fix it.  Guess the formula works for him.  Besides, after so many cases, it's bound to repeat at some point.  Look at all the locked room cases the series has had.

Besides, if Gosho doesn't like DC anymore, than Akira Toriyama (the creator of Dragonball) has had many suicidal thoughts every day for the past 15 years. 

Oh yeah.  He wanted to end Dragon Ball after the Cell Saga, right?  Or was it even earlier?  Takeuchi Naoko, Sailor V/Sailor Moon creator, originally wanted to end Sailor Moon after the first main series against Beryll and her minions.  The fans wanted more, hence the filler arc for the first few episodes of Sailor Moon R since she had to come up with a story manga wise.