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Akonyl wrote: whil gosho may never do it, I'm about 90% certain someone else already has.
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Do you also have a 90% sure idea where that treasure could be?
I wonna read/watch it...
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would u still read it w/o the pills making them back to their formal ages though XD
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Obscure wrote: i <3 CoAi , even if they dont end up 2gether i dont care as long as they stay best friends , i like their friend ship that is a mixture of honesty , sacrifice , caring ,acting ,  n my favorite  ;) pranks and jokes and etc ..... but i think Ran will find Shiho friendship with shinichi painful like in Live Action DC Movie  2 specificaly if they turned bak and still didnt destroy the BO cause they'll have conversations ran cant share with them, and also if she saw her wearing shinichi's caps  :P :P
I know, thats what really sucks. I mean Shinichi can't get close with another girl other than Ran.....it would make her feel less important. Maybe then she'll realize they don't have much in common.....she might be jealous. So it would be great if Ran could be friends with Shiho, but I doubt she will want to be if shiho is friends with Shinichi, especially if they have their sarcastic and joking conversations, or talk about the BO or even soccor...yea, it'll more than likely be like Live Action 2.....

But even tho Ran is clingy, at least she's clinging to a cool dude like Shinichi, who will be loyal and faithful to the person he loves. Aoko, on the other hand, from Kaitou Kid series, I don't care if she is the one Kaitou loves. He flirts with far too many women IN HER FACE, and kisses their hands, looks under their dresses, etc, even when he's not in disguise form. She's just looking to a womanizer for love...I find that girl really stupid and naive. She's bound to get her heart broken.

The only female childhood friend I love is Kahzuya. She's one tough cookie, and she knows when to back off from Heiji....and when to keep him in line. She's balanced. I think she can handle a detective, with their odd work schedules and such....
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soratothamax wrote: The only female childhood friend I love is Kahzuya. She's one tough cookie, and she knows when to back off from Heiji....and when to keep him in line. She's balanced. I think she can handle a detective, with their odd work schedules and such....
Right, this is why Aoyama has Ran explain this to Kazuha, because Ran just doesn't understand anything and Kazuha doesn't mind Heiji running off and keeping secrets.
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soratothamax wrote: I know, thats what really sucks. I mean Shinichi can't get close with another girl other than Ran.....it would make her feel less important. Maybe then she'll realize they don't have much in common.....she might be jealous. So it would be great if Ran could be friends with Shiho, but I doubt she will want to be if shiho is friends with Shinichi, especially if they have their sarcastic and joking conversations, or talk about the BO or even soccor...yea, it'll more than likely be like Live Action 2.....

But even tho Ran is clingy, at least she's clinging to a cool dude like Shinichi, who will be loyal and faithful to the person he loves. Aoko, on the other hand, from Kaitou Kid series, I don't care if she is the one Kaitou loves. He flirts with far too many women IN HER FACE, and kisses their hands, looks under their dresses, etc, even when he's not in disguise form. She's just looking to a womanizer for love...I find that girl really stupid and naive. She's bound to get her heart broken.

The only female childhood friend I love is Kahzuya. She's one tough cookie, and she knows when to back off from Heiji....and when to keep him in line. She's balanced. I think she can handle a detective, with their odd work schedules and such....
I don't agree on most of your points:

Ran:  She's not clingy. in fact the reason why Shinichi never figured out Ran liked him is because she's not clingy enough.  At the beginning when Shinichi was shoving his love letters in her face (isn't he such a cool guy?) she just told him to screw off and stop playing with the poor girls' hearts.  He also check out woman all the time (it's normal, you'll check out extremely attractive guys too yes?).  The only reason Shinichi knows that Ran loves him is because he's living with her as Conan and can see her crying in secret.

Ran + Shiho relationship:  Didn't we already establish this kinda thing in the "Shinichi's first love" case?  She'll jumped in a burning building to save Asami even though she thinks Asami is Shinichi's beloved girlfriend.  Sure Ran is jealous, but she'll never take it out on a girl (since Ran is always protective of girls).  If Shinichi was dating a guy on the other hand...I'm not sure xDDD.

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/174/06/

Kazuha: Now Kazuha, the fact that Heiji doesn't know she likes him just proves he's complete dense.  She's much clingier then Ran (which is why she's awesome) and doesn't back off for anyone.  Even when Ran proved that she's not "Kudou" Kazuha still thinks Ran and Heiji had something going on.  Also during the Detective Koushien when the beautiful and brilliant Natsuki says "I like hot blooded detectives" Kazuha felt the danger (so funny xDD).

Aoko x Kaito:  Sure Kaito's an idiot, but Shinichi's an idiot (we just didn't see much of him before he turned into Conan).  Unlikes Shinichi Kaito will always know if Aoko is sad and will do anything to make her smile (go through an entire police force + snake just to go to her birthday etc...).   Not to say Kaito's not an idiot, he's too much of a kid to admit that he loves her the most.  So really he's like a little kid who case girls with bugs and bullies the girl he has a crush on ::).

At least Robot Kaito is honest LOL:

http://www.onemanga.com/Magic_Kaito/3/04/    
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Obscure wrote: i <3 CoAi , even if they dont end up 2gether i dont care as long as they stay best friends , i like their friend ship that is a mixture of honesty , sacrifice , caring ,acting ,  n my favorite  ;) pranks and jokes and etc ..... but i think Ran will find Shiho friendship with shinichi painful like in Live Action DC Movie  2 specificaly if they turned bak and still didnt destroy the BO cause they'll have conversations ran cant share with them, and also if she saw her wearing shinichi's caps  :P :P
Just why do i have a feeling that that last one would hit Ran very hard?  :P
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soratothamax wrote: The only female childhood friend I love is Kahzuya. She's one tough cookie, and she knows when to back off from Heiji....and when to keep him in line. She's balanced. I think she can handle a detective, with their odd work schedules and such....
Right, this is why Aoyama has Ran explain this to Kazuha, because Ran just doesn't understand anything and Kazuha doesn't mind Heiji running off and keeping secrets.
I found it funny, that Ran was okay with beeing left behind with Kazuha and her dad, but let Conan go with Heiji to see "those things" Ran talked about to Kazuha.  :D
kirite wrote: Ran:  She's not clingy. in fact the reason why Shinichi never figured out Ran liked him is because she's not clingy enough.  At the beginning when Shinichi was shoving his love letters in her face (isn't he such a cool guy?) she just told him to screw off and stop playing with the poor girls' hearts.  He also check out woman all the time (it's normal, you'll check out extremely attractive guys too yes?).  The only reason Shinichi knows that Ran loves him is because he's living with her as Conan and can see her crying in secret.
We should be glade to not see more of "jerk Shinichi". XD
Yeah, both weren´t really honest to their feelings and each other, but thats love, right? :P
But i disagree with the last point:
Shinichi get it cause Ran told him so, not cause he get to see how much she cares about him. if it would be only the last one, he wouldn´t be too sue whenever or not she loves him or just  see a good friend in him.^^
kirite wrote: Ran + Shiho relationship:  Didn't we already establish this kinda thing in the "Shinichi's first love" case?  She'll jumped in a burning building to save Asami even though she thinks Asami is Shinichi's beloved girlfriend.  Sure Ran is jealous, but she'll never take it out on a girl (since Ran is always protective of girls).  If Shinichi was dating a guy on the other hand...I'm not sure xDDD.
I don´t really get what you mean with your question. ???
Sure i also think that she and Shiho would/could be befriended, but cause of the "speciale past" from Shiho (Ai) and Shinichi (Conan), Ran would smell that something is in the bush. If both would stand before her, it would be another case like in that one with Asami, were Ran had to deal with the feeling to "lost" to another girl which claims to be Shinichis first love.

Maybe she would see in Shiho more of an "rival" then in other girls, cause we all know that Ran is the one girl Shinichi talks to all the time. If she would see how Shinichi reacts/speaks/discuss things with Shiho, i´m also sure she would fell another feeling then in the case with Asami. By Asami it was despair, by the other girl at the beginning anger and sadness, by Shiho it would be more of an "nagging jealousy". ;)
And then there is the problem to explain Ran why Shiho and Shinichi knows each other so well.
When he said she´s a client, Ran would wonder, when he said she´s his partner/help in his case" she would also wonder.^g^

Damn, i wanna see an arc with that. ;D
If Shinichi would start dating a guy, i DON´T want to know how Ran would react. :D
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@ james rye: i wanna see an arc like that too!!! seeing  ran's reaction if she meet shiho in her real form,and her relationship with kudo!!!

it would be like the live action 2 (it was great for me!) but i think that shiho would become ran's friend,because she sees her like a sister now,and also because Ran is the type of girl who want to be friend with all the people she know(just look how she was worry to know why ai didn't talk to her,and all the  efforts she made in order to be closer with ai) !

but she would keep her pain for her this happen ::)

wow,i would love it if in the end ai return to her real body and goes to the same highschool than Ran and shinichi!
(it would let some hopes to see shinxshiho to happen,but this time ran and shiho would be at the same level cause ran would not be the sad girl who wait for shinichi,and shiho would not be seen as a  child ;)

they would have almost the same chances to be with kudo,and even if ran and shinichi are together , they could have problems in their couple,or their feelings could change, love is not perpetual,it could have  up and downs)
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kirite wrote: Ran:  She's not clingy. in fact the reason why Shinichi never figured out Ran liked him is because she's not clingy enough.  At the beginning when Shinichi was shoving his love letters in her face (isn't he such a cool guy?) she just told him to screw off and stop playing with the poor girls' hearts.  He also check out woman all the time (it's normal, you'll check out extremely attractive guys too yes?).  The only reason Shinichi knows that Ran loves him is because he's living with her as Conan and can see her crying in secret.
Akai said it best, "You just remind me...of a woman who looked a lot like you. She put up a brave face but cried behind my back, a stupid woman."

Maybe if Ran was open enough from the start with her feelings, she would of held on to Shinichi long enough that he would of missed Gin & Vodka. They could play on this point if Ran finds out the truth before the series ends but chances of that happening is slim...on both points. ;D
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James Rye wrote:
Obscure wrote: i <3 CoAi , even if they dont end up 2gether i dont care as long as they stay best friends , i like their friend ship that is a mixture of honesty , sacrifice , caring ,acting ,  n my favorite  ;) pranks and jokes and etc ..... but i think Ran will find Shiho friendship with shinichi painful like in Live Action DC Movie  2 specificaly if they turned bak and still didnt destroy the BO cause they'll have conversations ran cant share with them, and also if she saw her wearing shinichi's caps  :P :P
Just why do i have a feeling that that last one would hit Ran very hard?  :P

lol yeah, Ai wearing conan's hats will definetly piss her off hahah
considering the fact she does it often, and in one episode even teases conan about "even an incredibly cute girl can wear this ugly hat and pull it off"
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I didn´t really know where to write this, but it kinda felt right to put it here:
I wanna write something about Shinichi/Conan, who´s without saying probably the most important person to Ai/Shiho and Ran, also many other people hold him very dear.

I noticed that many blames him for beeing "stupid" cause he don´t get/understand the feelings of the girls.
I don´t think like those people that that one is his biggest problem. No one can understand another human so well, that he can read his heart to his own stasification. So that´s okay since it´s also one important point in this story.^g^

No, what i think is that his greatest problem is that he doesn´t care enough for himself. Don´t get me wrong, i´m not talking about the Shinichi we got to know at the very beginning, i mean his realtionships with his friends/family/the ones who loves him.
Conan/Shinichi is a hero (of cource :D) so he can´t stand the thought to see the ones he cares for beeing hurt or in danger. So naturally he does everything to protect them, putting himself in danger or getting hurt by this actions.
Thats what a hero do, right?

What i want to say is, that he thinks that as long as the others are round and safe, it´s okay whatever happens to him.
We all know that he want to protect everyone no matter the cost, even criminals and their kin are in his concerne. Quite a noble hero we have here, huh? But he´s also a "blind" one, i want to say.
Look at what he had done already in those past 700 chapters: He saved a lot of people, a few more times a few less. He couldn´t save all and blames himself for it, he often tries to take the burden and risk all by himself, letting the others out.

In my eyes he throws away his life rather easily. For example the case with the bomb in the elevator, to save hundreds of faceless people for only two humans lifes. A good trade, isn´t it? But whats with those who are left behind?
Shinichi/Conan don´t understand it well, that whatever happens to him hurts the ones he wants to protect as much as it would have happen to themself. They´re a very lot of people who hold him very dear unless which form he has taken. But he doesn´t get it the right way and doesn´t take care of himself.
He hate it to see others hurt, but doesn´t mind getting himself hurt. Cause of of this way of thinging he doesn´t understand who much he hurts the ones who helds him dear when they see him beeing hurt.

Whatever he does he tries to put the others out of the dange zone, the case where Vermouth were Araide for example: His mother and Heiji were on that party, a almost safe place. The prof was in his car, away from the scene and Ai was closed away at home. Ran was supposed to be at home, too.
But his plan didn´t go as he predicted it: Ai and also Ran showed us that they doesn´t want to be left out, Heiji and Agasa are the same.

They want to help him, share his burden, want to know what troubes him or what he fears. Still Shinichi/Conan has a "distanz" in that matter to the others. He doesn´t belong to himself, risking his life to save the ones who are dear to you is a good thing, but letting them out of thoses actions hurts them more than being hurt.

Shinichi doesn´t belong only to himself, but he act that way. We fell joy and sadness cause we are bound to other people, we relate to them and share something with them. There´s no single peron who can be free of others. That makes us fell this emotions and also love.
But Shinichi´s onyl halfway to that. he shows sometimes times of weakness, fear, despair or questions himself cause he´s unsure. But he doesn´t want to share his burden, his risk with others.

To Ai he doesn´t want to talk about being in the eye of the BO cause he doesn´t want her to feel fear and that she should live a happy life.
To Ran he doesn´t say anything about his situaton cause he doesn´t want her to worry about him and enjoy her life she has right now.
To Heiji he tried to let him out of the BO-case cause he knows Heiji would be as much as himself in danger when he helps him.
And so on and so on.

We all know how often Conan/Shinichi ends up hurt cause he risks something to save someones life, that a good act from him, but it´s stupid whe he fully kowningly rsiks his life and doesn´t think about how the others would fell left behind when he would die (something that won´t happen, i know ;D).
Shinichi has quite grwon in those 700 chapters, that dude at the very beginning is almost no more there, he´s more mature now. But he´s still not mature enough to accept that he can´t save everyone, that he can´t let them all out in all his actions, that he have to trust them, work with them and share everything with them what also include the risks

Remember that time when Agasa was angry cause Shinichi didn´t tell him right away what was the case? And at the same time, that Ai heard that Conan didn´t tell Agasa all cause he doesn´t want her to be troubled? Or Ran in the car after a case where she suspects Conan to be Shinichi again and she asks herself why he doesn´t open up to her and trust her with telling her everything?

What to you think would they fell when he dies, protecting them? Do you think they would be grate- and thankful to him when they stand crying over his grave? I think that Shinichi doesn´t see all the other consequences when he gets hurt, he just see that he "saved someone".

Also remember: All Superheros so far had problems with their superpowers cause they want to protect the ones they love, but the ones who held thoses heros dear are left out and cause of that hurt in a way no superpower can heal.

Or Junpei Matsuda, His death was heroic cause he saved hundreds of people with his death. It was also stupide cause he wasn´t able to fulfill the promise with his best friend who died and he also left the woman behind that he cares so much for and who loved him.

Think about it: When Shinichi/Conan is able to defeat the BO with sacrificing his live, would it compensate the sorrow, the pain and the grief of thoses he wanted to protect and who loves him?
I dont think so and i guess Shinichi also didn´t think about this possiblity that he could do a fault and die cause of it.
Another question: When Shinichi weren´t abel to solved the mystery back in the bomb elevator case; would he or would he not capped the cabel? What do you think?

Well, thats all so far. Just a few thoughts i had in my head. :)
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Holy sh***, James, you did it again!XD (And in it, I mean writing a novel-like post with high amounts of epicness.)
You know I love you for that, right?XP
James Rye wrote: Shinichi/Conan don´t understand it well, that whatever happens to him hurts the ones he wants to protect as much as it would have happen to themself. They´re a very lot of people who hold him very dear unless which form he has taken. But he doesn´t get it the right way and doesn´t take care of himself.
He hate it to see others hurt, but doesn´t mind getting himself hurt. Cause of of this way of thinging he doesn´t understand who much he hurts the ones who helds him dear when they see him beeing hurt.
That´s exactly why he´s gotten into the current situation.
He thought it would be fine telling Ran he´s got something to do while staying away so that he can solve the case
of the BO without getting her involved. But he never considered that his abstinence could cause her pain and when he realized that, well... bolded part.
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@ james: you know what?i'm more and more impressed by your posts!!longer with very good explanations and thoughts!!!

you're right ,shinichi can have some defects and things which bother me sometimes ,his biggest quality is that he always think about others before thinking about him!i love him mostly for that!!!
but then again,he's the hero so it's not surprising to see this type of quality ;D
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First off... I kinda not like the live action XDDDD (maybe it's the cast LOL)

Second, I think Ran and Shiho can get along ^_^, it's different, it's like my aunt (she's just a friend, that knows my mom, so close we called her aunty XD) and my uncle, They understand each other and everything, like best best friend ^_^ and his wife doesn't get jealous or anything, not that I know of ^_^. In other words, it's possible to have like a "best-est best friend" being the opposite sex, without having to relate to romance ^_^. People just over think when a man and a women understand each other, but it's not always only man-man can be best friend ^_^ (besides, if woman-man best friend relationship is suspicious, with society right now, wouldn't man-man relationship can ALSO be suspicious XDDDD JUST KIDDING! )

About Shinichi---- hmmmm.... Well, he's human too  (fictionally), the first thing that popped in his mind would be not getting Ran involved, not getting anyone close to him being involved, which I think is the right choice though, sure Ran will get hurt "emotionally", but if she's involved, now Shinichi has to protect her from getting hurt "emotionally AND physically". I mean somewhere deep inside, he knows that he'll probably die facing the BO, but the least her can do is making sure Ran will live, and even if it means she'll be hurt, but she'll eventually HAS to move on, rather than having her die along also, everything is for her sake ^_^. Yes, people might say "Yeah but how would you know that would make her happy" or "She may not like that"... well Time heals XD.

p.s. Beside, I think Haibara will die at the end XDDD, It's the best way to go!!!! Like how Emerald died protecting Yaiba (Aoyama other work XD)
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hmm.. what are the instances (or moments) that haibara is showing or others notice that haibara has feelings for conan?

i only remember the old castle investigation case (ep. 136-137) where ayumi asked haibara if she had feelings for conan, too.

and another is from movie 4. where ai stated that if she were to have amnesia, she will forget all of her dark past, she live as haibara ai and lastly... she will live with conan forever! how cheezy!
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kirite wrote:
soratothamax wrote: I know, thats what really sucks. I mean Shinichi can't get close with another girl other than Ran.....it would make her feel less important. Maybe then she'll realize they don't have much in common.....she might be jealous. So it would be great if Ran could be friends with Shiho, but I doubt she will want to be if shiho is friends with Shinichi, especially if they have their sarcastic and joking conversations, or talk about the BO or even soccor...yea, it'll more than likely be like Live Action 2.....

But even tho Ran is clingy, at least she's clinging to a cool dude like Shinichi, who will be loyal and faithful to the person he loves. Aoko, on the other hand, from Kaitou Kid series, I don't care if she is the one Kaitou loves. He flirts with far too many women IN HER FACE, and kisses their hands, looks under their dresses, etc, even when he's not in disguise form. She's just looking to a womanizer for love...I find that girl really stupid and naive. She's bound to get her heart broken.

The only female childhood friend I love is Kahzuya. She's one tough cookie, and she knows when to back off from Heiji....and when to keep him in line. She's balanced. I think she can handle a detective, with their odd work schedules and such....
I don't agree on most of your points:

Ran:  She's not clingy. in fact the reason why Shinichi never figured out Ran liked him is because she's not clingy enough.  At the beginning when Shinichi was shoving his love letters in her face (isn't he such a cool guy?) she just told him to screw off and stop playing with the poor girls' hearts.  He also check out woman all the time (it's normal, you'll check out extremely attractive guys too yes?).  The only reason Shinichi knows that Ran loves him is because he's living with her as Conan and can see her crying in secret.

Ran + Shiho relationship:  Didn't we already establish this kinda thing in the "Shinichi's first love" case?  She'll jumped in a burning building to save Asami even though she thinks Asami is Shinichi's beloved girlfriend.  Sure Ran is jealous, but she'll never take it out on a girl (since Ran is always protective of girls).  If Shinichi was dating a guy on the other hand...I'm not sure xDDD.

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/174/06/

Kazuha: Now Kazuha, the fact that Heiji doesn't know she likes him just proves he's complete dense.  She's much clingier then Ran (which is why she's awesome) and doesn't back off for anyone.  Even when Ran proved that she's not "Kudou" Kazuha still thinks Ran and Heiji had something going on.  Also during the Detective Koushien when the beautiful and brilliant Natsuki says "I like hot blooded detectives" Kazuha felt the danger (so funny xDD).

Aoko x Kaito:  Sure Kaito's an idiot, but Shinichi's an idiot (we just didn't see much of him before he turned into Conan).  Unlikes Shinichi Kaito will always know if Aoko is sad and will do anything to make her smile (go through an entire police force + snake just to go to her birthday etc...).   Not to say Kaito's not an idiot, he's too much of a kid to admit that he loves her the most.  So really he's like a little kid who case girls with bugs and bullies the girl he has a crush on ::).

At least Robot Kaito is honest LOL:

http://www.onemanga.com/Magic_Kaito/3/04/    
Not outwardly, but Ran's inward feelings demand attention. She really is so sure he loves her, though he never told her, that she is willing to wait forever until he does....even if he NEVER feels the same....that's clingy. He NEVER told her he loved her, neither are they dating (never did date), and she is still willing to wait for him to confess he loves her, even if he never said he would confess anything of that nature...that's clingy. He APPEARS to love her...that is the only evidence she has, and the only reason she is waiting...that's clingy. WE know he cares, but she doesn't....Ran is trying to play it off in his face, but her emotional state can't handle it. Why is she crying over someone who never even told her he loved her? c-l-i-n-g-y. How can he be loyal to someone he's not dating? He can date whoever he wants to. He doesn't belong to anyone. He's single!

Yes, Shinichi checks other woman out, but he tries not to do it in Ran's face and he doesn't make it so obvious he is flirting. LOOKING at women is different from actually FLIRTING with them and making lip contact on the hands, and such......as Kaitou Kid has shown on numerous occasions without being in his disguise form....Aoko is a good one to deal with him, or a really stupid one......then again, Aoko isn't dating Kaito Kid, so he can flirt with whoever he wants to. Anyway....

Kazuya is a bit territorial, but she has a tougher personality, which can handle a detective. She wouldn't fall a part if Heiji disappeared, which he does often, though she'd be angry. Shinichi is off on a case, and Ran can't handle it. She can't handle Shinichi being a detective. Who knows, maybe Kazuya is just as bad, but then I make my point. I'm not fond of Goshyo's "childhood friend females."

As far as Ran and Shiho: I don't think Ran will treat Shiho any different...but inwardly, in her own mind, she'll be wondering who Shiho is and who she is to Shinichi, and at this point, the ShinxShiho relationship is hard to explain. Ran will not understand how she knows him so well. Ran will still be kind, but will have nagging jealousies, or more feel...inadequate to Shiho, like she can't measure up....

And then they'll be all these scenes designed to make you feel sorry for Ran so you can hate the other girl......I can't stand when writers do that.....knowing that the main girl is the most "perfect" girl of all....sheesh

Shinichi dating a guy? Well, if he ever did, they should make it a BO member! Imagine the shock on Ran's face! LOL
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Re: Ai + Conan

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j_o_s_h_u_a_0_8 wrote: hmm.. what are the instances (or moments) that haibara is showing or others notice that haibara has feelings for conan?

i only remember the old castle investigation case (ep. 136-137) where ayumi asked haibara if she had feelings for conan, too.

and another is from movie 4. where ai stated that if she were to have amnesia, she will forget all of her dark past, she live as haibara ai and lastly... she will live with conan forever! how cheezy!
o_o *blinks

how far are you in the series?
countless, I mean countless episodes of haibara secretly looking at conan, sighing, smirking, teasing, flirting with him!!! I'll just give u a small sample amount of episodes:
Spoiler:
ep 192 - kudo asks why haibara is helping him, haibara is all surprised and blushes
ep 230 - Haibara scared holds onto Conan's hand, Conan saves Haibara from the exploding bus, and conan says the famous line "dont run away from fate"
ep 279-280 - Conan thinks Ai is running away, and tries to stop her.  But she really isnt, and she asks "you will protect me right?" and conan says "yeah"
ep 335 - Yukiko tells Conan that Ai likes him because shes been looking at his face like 10 times, and then when they are all sleeping next to each other, Conan is about to ask Ai something, and Ai starts acting all serious..hoping to hear certain words, and then conan just goes "is there somethign on my face?"
ep 340 - Ai is sick and in her dreams, its just a whole bunch of AiConan clips :p
Theres a whole bunch more, but im way too lazy to post all the episodes, but i think its common sense that Ai has feelings for conan
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