Shinichi being a fool & some FBI related discussion

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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Dus wrote: Gin also said that he never remembers his victims' names. But there are records that have the name Shinichi Kudo on it.
Right, but I agree with Caribou's posts in spirit. Shinichi never was assessed as a high threat to them, and after Shinichi was ruled dead, the Org's caring dropped to near zero. If the Org. somehow had the ability to monitor airport flying lists which would be very difficult to do comprehensively with the security, they wouldn't be looking for dead people.
I agree. Shinichi's name would probably only throw up some flags if someone had contested the confirmation of his death, which though unlikely is possible if Gin was looking hard for who could possibly have been the one to save Shiho on the roof of Haido Hotel.

Then again, he might have just blamed it on Akai.
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Dus wrote: Gin also said that he never remembers his victims' names. But there are records that have the name Shinichi Kudo on it.
Yup, I acknowledge that. My argument is just that Shinichi's name is not likely to ring any bells for any BO personnel to check up those records, unless there's someone who is actually (a) looking for him specifically, or (b) has a very good memory + observation skills. (I think Bourbon could fit into either :x)
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Gin did think something was off...  Enough to question Vermouth about the name after the whole Vodka-on-ship-Hattori-as-Shinichi-as-Invisible-Man thing.
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Abs. wrote: Gin did think something was off...  Enough to question Vermouth about the name after the whole Vodka-on-ship-Hattori-as-Shinichi-as-Invisible-Man thing.
That plot will come to fruition eventually. Right now, Gin doesn't have anything solid to act on, just a name in the back of his mind.
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Abs. wrote: Gin did think something was off...  Enough to question Vermouth about the name after the whole Vodka-on-ship-Hattori-as-Shinichi-as-Invisible-Man thing.
that's a good point though, I forgot about that. i need to look up that case again :D
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Abs. wrote: Gin did think something was off...  Enough to question Vermouth about the name after the whole Vodka-on-ship-Hattori-as-Shinichi-as-Invisible-Man thing.
that's a good point though, I forgot about that. i need to look up that case again :D
Yeah, but at that point he didn't superly distrust Vermouth (at least, I don't think so).  So after she says "No, I don't know who that is" (something along those lines) then he would just forget again.
That's why I think Gin is so scary.  He's so distanced from his victims he can't even remember their names.
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caribou wrote:
Abs. wrote: Gin did think something was off...  Enough to question Vermouth about the name after the whole Vodka-on-ship-Hattori-as-Shinichi-as-Invisible-Man thing.
that's a good point though, I forgot about that. i need to look up that case again :D
Not because he think something was off .Because Vodka see Kudo alive, Vodka phone to tell GIn he's alive. then it turn out to be another person in disguise, but since the name brought up, he just ask since he know Vermouth involve in the ghost ship. But after Vermouth denied Kodo's alive he should have forgot it again, since he know he kill Kudo himself and nothing seem suspicious.
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caribou wrote: Conan already encountered another Kudo Shinichi in Tokyo
Wait, what? When did this happen?
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Also Kudo Shinichi, murderer, I believe there were two Kudos
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The point still remains: if they hadn't looked for Shinichi after that whole ghost ship episode waaaaaayyyyy back then, why on earth would they be looking up the flight records???  They don't seem like the type to just check out random planes on the off-chance that someone who's probably dead but possibly not might be on it. 
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Sorry for digging up this topic, but first it was a very interesting read and second I was bored.  ::)

First of all, concerning the whole issue of Conan returning to his real body to take the flight to London. While in reality (I kind of feel silly to say 'in reality' after a sentence about a shrunken child getting back to his teenager body  :D) this makes perfectly sense, Gosho didn't care for this matter in the past.
During the chapters of Shinichi's first case on the plane to New York, the present shows Conan on-board of a plane himself. (Anime 172f, Manga 204ff) Well, my flying experience in Japan is limited, but in Germany you also have to identify yourself, i.e. bring a document of identification, if you travel by plane inside the country. No problem there?
This leads me to believe Gosho just wanted Shinichi to confess in London. Hopeless romantic! Thus he was OOA like Shinichi was OOC  ;)

As for the BO analyzing the information of traveling people: perfectly possible and I agree... if Shiho would show up on a plane... well, let's just hope she is smarter than that ^^. Same goes for Kudo, IF they are searching for him.
However a lucky hit, like some of you suggested, is nearly impossible. The two airports in Tokyo combined have a passenger volume of over 90 million per year. Meaning 250.000 passengers per day. (And as I said, that's only Tokyo) I doubt you get a hit unless you are searching for a name.

Now the question remains if they are actively searching for him...

I would also really like to join Chekhovs and kyuuketsukis discussion about the FBI, but on the other hand I don't like arguing against an Encyclopedia, let alone two.
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Divin wrote: I would also really like to join Chekhovs and kyuuketsukis discussion about the FBI, but on the other hand I don't like arguing against an Encyclopedia, let alone two.
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It is kind of funny reading this over again because it seems like Kyuu and I keep having this recurring debate theme where Kyuu says something like "It's not realistic because of X, Y & Z" and then I respond with "Gosho doesn't care about matching reality which is shown because he did A already".
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