File 701: Is it the end of Mizunashi Rena?

[Akonyl]

somewhat of an outlandish theory, but what if this isn't an actual case? what if the sender and the receiver are the same person, and what if that person's Okiya? He created the case and the clues in order to test Kogoro, and created the bomb situation to force Kogoro to solve it in the department store, where he could observe him carefully. The reason he'd do this would be that he may actually be expecting Conan to solve it instead. After all, he was there when Conan solved the arson case, and then he was led to Shinichi's house by Conan, and then he learned that Shinichi was apparently an awesome detective as well (in the paper planes case, although Ran said he was Kinichi, she still slipped up at the beginning and Okiya may have caught that), yet he's nowhere to be seen. Also, Conan lives with Ran and Okiya's seen him solve a few cases since then. So, he might suspect that Conan is actually Shinichi, and is thus secretly observing how Conan will solve the case (and perhaps how he uses Kogoro, if Okiya suspects that much)

as to why he would go to this length (planting bombs, fake or not) to test it? Who knows, maybe he's Bourbon after all.

[yukionna]

I honestly have so many conflicting emotions about the Okiya-Akai-Bourbon triad..... because I want them to be three different people. Unfortunately, there's only two bodies to put them into. There are only three plausible possibilities under the condition that Bourbon has to be either "fake" Akai or Okiya.

Maybe Akai is dead and Okiya is Okiya, which should mean that "fake" Akai is Bourbon. If this is so, then I would be so sad for losing a smexy character (I'm gonna miss Akai's voice if that's so). This would mean that we gain a sexy good guy in Okiya. Bwahaha. But I digress. If this is the case, then Okiya should be a good guy and would replace Akai as the other Silver Bullet. I just wonder if Okiya has any other fighting skills. I know there was a thing he did in the Ikkaku rock case... but for me, that wasn't of near Akai's badassery to make him the backup Silver Bullet. As for Bourbon, I really have nothing to say about him if "fake" Akai is Bourbon.


Another possibility would be Okiya is Akai and "fake" Akai is Bourbon. I kinda like this, but I would hate to lose Okiya-san!!! Anyway, this would explain why Conan's trust in Okiya. As for why Conan was shocked in 699--- maybe it was because they agreed that Akai would not break character, or maybe that he should act surprised whenever someone says that Akai is alive in the case that the BO is observing him (which isn't really a plausible theory since the BO has abandoned their suspicions of the detective agency at the moment--or so we think). So for Akai, this would just mean that he's operating with Conan without the knowledge of the FBI... and things should return to normal once his identity as Akai is revealed. This would also explain Ai's tingling BO-sense, as she feels this pressure with Akai as well (maybe because Akai was a BO for a while). As for Bourbon, I have nothing to say... again.

The final possibility is that Okiya is Bourbon and "fake" Akai is Akai. This has the benefit of keeping both the sexy characters (assuming Bourbon is not in disguise)... The downside is that Okiya is not a good guy....  :'( If you haven't already noticed, I don't have much thought about Bourbon (as I am preoccupied with superficial things, like sexiness, at the moment), so no thoughts on Bourbon whatsoever. As for Akai, I also have no clue what he would be doing looking like himself in public.... so this would be, in my opinion the weakest possibility. Unless Aoyama-sama once again hides information from us that would make this theory stronger... which could be true.

Essentially, all these theories have their holes, especially in the way that I presented them (I feel like one of those "Birthers" now, LOL). Maybe I'm just not thinking out of the box, or maybe it's because Aoyama-sama is hiding vital information from us (probably both).

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

ooh! lots of interesting theory. i myself like the theory that the shirts with their strange creases form some kind of code (as in Sherlock Holmes in the Dancing Men)

I thought about the dancing men too. I went and looked it up before I remembered the dancing men code relied on the shape of the legs too - and shirts don't have legs... I may add to this post later...

[Rellik]

NOTE ABOUT THE FAKE AKAI:

some people says that the burn mark is on the wrong side, well , assuming that the bomb is placed in right side of his face, when akai escapes from the backdoor, he will turnover, and thus will result the bomb to be in his left side.

it was placed in his left side actually... dunno what tat proves but im just saying


i also want to add that i found the way the reciepts were torn really strange, normally if you tear something, it will give you a relatively straight rip, yet that isnt the case on the reciepts.

it was as though the reciepts were stuck to something and the culprit had to pull it off, resulting in those strange outlines

yeh i don't know what it means, but i just found it weird why the culprit will tear the reciepts like that

and why was the reciepts in the bag anyways? on purpose or is that just the way japanese people do it?

[Misztina]

I think I'll quote myself from another thread first:

The man with the bomb wasn't the one who called Mouri, he was surprised by the leaked detail (T-shirts every week) and by Mouri's identity.

At the end the police got an information, probably about the bombs being fake, but of course they can't really believe that, so they just wait. The informer is the one who set up this whole thing, could be either Akai, Bourbon or whatever.

I tried to look at the numbers of the shirts: 2 2 2 1 2 2 2. If I add the twos I can get 616, which was originally the number of the Beast instead of 666.

13, 616 seems to be both unlucky numbers.

Of course I can be very wrong, but this might give ideas to others. ^^

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I think I'll quote myself from another thread first:

The man with the bomb wasn't the one who called Mouri, he was surprised by the leaked detail (T-shirts every week) and by Mouri's identity.

In that case, the sender could be the guy with the bombs strapped to him, unwittingly picked as the hostage by the receiver of the shirts.

[GinRei]

2 2 2 1 2 2 2. If I add the twos I can get 616

So Spiderman's the culprit?  JJJ was right, he is a menace!

[Misztina]

@Ginrei: lol XD Yes, everything is possible in(?) Earth 616. Gosho is a spiderman fan... but that the culprit would be a guy Peter Parker? XD

By the way the receipt's top is like a triangle and its top is always to the left and the man with bombs has a red stain on his left side as well, this could be a hint rather than a stupid coincidence, right?

[Nyarl]

Whoever called the police probably told them the bombs were fake, given the discussion they had about going in. Don't know whether that's true, but I do think the guy with the bomb strapped to him is at least doing this under threat. IMO, unless he's a really good actor, he seems too honestly scared to know the bomb is fake and think he's in control of the situation. Even if he's lying about how he got stuck with the shirts and bomb and knows the bomb is fake, he is still probably being coerced into playing his part in this.

[Rellik]

guys, the hint is not 13 red shirts, but 15 (or 14) because the sender has come to the store to buy more.

i dont think the number of shirts matter at all, because we still don't know how many more shirts the sender is planning on sending - so the hint may well be more than 15 shirts for all we know

[Akonyl]

guys, the hint is not 13 red shirts, but 15 (or 14) because the sender has come to the store to buy more.

i dont think the number of shirts matter at all, because we still don't know how many more shirts the sender is planning on sending - so the hint may well be more than 15 shirts for all we know

I dunno, I think the 13's still significant. Yes he came to the store again, but remember that the receipt for the 13th shirt was torn "carelessly" and it left a clue that led to the department store. It sort of makes it seem like that clue was left intentionally to lead the recipient there.

Also, for the sleeve folding, perhaps it's semaphore flags? So, if that shirt was facing us when ran folded it, it would be a 'L' in english semaphore, but I'm sure it means a different letter in the Japanese system.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

This case is surprisingly difficult compared to recent cases. Hopefully there is not any word play I'm missing. The thing I am currently banging my head over is the meaning of 12:29. I think the meaning of has something to do with the crime's motive.

I looked at a bunch of different types of Japanese receipts and I couldn't find any reason to tear off both sides since the store's logo is usually on only one of the sides. As Misztina and I guessed above, maybe it's the shape?  Also, it could be sender only tore off one side of the receipt -- the receiver later could have torn off the other part for some reason. Maybe the was something on the one side of the receipt that would have been incriminating to the receiver?

The other thing to consider is why the sender left the store mark on the last receipt. If the receiver didn't know who sent the shirts, that means the sender was careful about hiding his identity. Why would the sender mess up on the last receipt? One possibility is that the sender didn't care if the receiver found out where he was buying the shirts. That would be the case if the most recent shirts were the last ones he intended to send and he wasn't going to buy anymore. Other than the word of the receiver there is no proof the sender is in the store at all.

The lack of named suspects probably means this case is a "figure out the definitive incriminating proof" type of case. I.e. from the evidence we have, Conan can deduce the existence of some incriminating mark or evidence that the culprit or culprits (there are two - the sender and the receiver, but we only know one - the receiver - is definitely in the store) either left behind or have on them that implicates only one person out of the entire suspect pool. Fingerprints, blood, impossible testimony, or evidence on the person's body are examples of definitive evidence.

I have a feeling the red splotch on the guy's shoulder is particularly important. I thought more about the red splotch and it might be possible that the person who put the bombs on the guy left it. (assuming the guy didn't put bombs on himself) What did the bomber do to leave a mark like that? Also, the guy said it might be lipstick, but could it be blood?

Finally Conan 324 brings up an excellent point.

* the bomber does not have full view of the store as he did not that the police has arrived (he's likely with the crowd)

If he was elsewhere in the store, watching the cameras, or observing from the outside, he would have seen the police's approach. He is almost certainly on the floor. If those bombs are real, there is a reasonable chance the guy is suicidal because the guy threatened to blow up the bombs and kill everyone on the floor if someone interfered. The reason why he wanted detective Mouri there is because the bomber didn't like the idea of killing a bunch of innocent people just to nail the sender, and if detective Mouri could force the guy out, the receiver has a chance to kill just the sender. Another possibility is that the bombs are fake (After all it is weird for a bomb to give off smoke so perhaps they are smoke bombs?) and he takes the chance that Mouri will figure out who the sender is for sure and reveal the guy. The smoke bombs get set off and the receiver escapes planing to do whatever to the sender later.

Although this is shaping up to look like a three part case, I wonder if there will be another chapter of investigation?

[Rellik]

I dunno, I think the 13's still significant. Yes he came to the store again, but remember that the receipt for the 13th shirt was torn "carelessly" and it left a clue that led to the department store. It sort of makes it seem like that clue was left intentionally to lead the recipient there.

if its intentional then the shirts is definitely a message - and a message that is enough for the recipient to use bombs for.

[Eve]

12:29... the first thing that popped in my mind was "How did the sender manage to get it at that exact time, every week?" Because if you buy something, wouldn't there be a chance people are lining up before you, in other words, this guy only have like a 60 seconds time frame to get exactly 12:29.

12:29... must means something important... The shirts were sent 7 times, should be a total of 14 shirts, but there are only 13, and the time did add up to "14" .... then uhhhh......... somehow it relates, because the time split 12 then 29...like a date? 12/29, and the 14th shirt is with the sender? XDD (taking random guesses )

The first 3 weeks were 2 shirts each, then the 4th week is 1 shirt, then fifth to 7th are 2 shirts each.... hmmm.... there's a hidden message of some sort...

Then the folds....it might be somehow related to the shape the receipt were torn in...

So far this case, like everyone has said, there were not many suspect particularly, so the message has to be either something that would identify the sender name, or trait that can be identify, it can even be a message that can isolate the sender from everyone in that floor. So it has to be particular, so maybe it won't be a play one words.

Argh, the folds of the shirt and the shape, somehow bothers me. The color Red... hmmmm in Japanese culture, it is to drive out sickness and children with small pox would wear red...or so I heard.... but I don't think it would be relevant.

Hmm....

*Reading it again XD*

 

[Nanatsu no Ko]

Another thing to consider is why it was torn and not cut (nor folded and torn).

It seems there is a bunch of evidence, but I just can't put all the clues together. If only there was a detective there to solve this mystery

At this point in time I enjoy thinking that Conan is being set up