Ai + Conan

[soratothamax]

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Let´s say, it makes them more interesting when they tease each other and stuff, it doesn´t make them automatically "better".^^
The problem with Ran is, in my eyes, that her developement in the whole 700 Chapters isn´t that great like in the case from Conan or Ai.
She doesn´t always stay the same, but for most of the time it appears so. Because of that it bores a few readers or much readers, who knows. 

Ran came in the 90´s and Ai in the 00´s if i´m right, So Ran was from the "old" generation, where such lovley, cute, loyal, pretty, house-wife-like and almost perfect girls/woman were really popular 8they still are^^). Ai was from the "new" generation, she was also pretty (and here and there a bit cute), but stubborn, easy to annoyed, doesn´t really want to relate on others, kinda cold and mysterious.
Well both have their fans and you have to understand Ranichi-fans cause most of them waited for years, that Shinichi and Ran comes together so they don´t want him to fall in love with another woman.

Aicon-fans doesn´t see the chemistry in Ranichi (to be honest, i also doesn´t see that^^) but the one between Ai and Conan. It looks like they have a lot in common yet a lot of difference either. Cause of the BO, the problems of trusting and other stuff Aicon looks for many or few DC-fans a lot more interesting than Ran and Shinichis relationship.
Of cource most of them they want a happy ending for Ai and Conan, but in that case Shinichi need to "lose" his love-interest at Ran and need to fall in love with Ai/Shiho at the same time.

It doesn´t look that way right now, but i (and others i think^g^) still hope that Gosho have a surprise for us about Ai/Shiho, Ran and Shinichi/Conan.
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I completely agree with this post. I'm a '90s child, but I still don't like the old-fashioned view of women....I guess I like the emo-sarcastic-intelligent woman...Haibara. She's like a goth...like the dark, mysterious type...this whole generation is....

Spoiler:

Look at the sudden fascination in Twilight.....

But people have "first loyalties" I call it. Even if the romance isn't all that interesting to others, some people will wait it out until there is something interesting....

[baka1412]

So much for the so called first loyalty..

We had kinda discussed bout this, Nowadays, you could easily find manga's where the Male main character (thought he always already has crush on childhood friend, or something like that) ended up with the later introduced girl..

[Miyano Shiho]

So much for the so called first loyalty..

We had kinda discussed bout this, Nowadays, you could easily find manga's where the Male main character (thought he always already has crush on childhood friend, or something like that) ended up with the later introduced girl..

yeah that's so true..for example..

Spoiler:

In the harry potter book series at first every body thought that he is going to end up with herrmoine then he devolpes a cruch on cho chang then he falls in love with ginny and marries her in the end..so everything isn't what it seems..and in the end who knows what will happen

[soratothamax]

episode 345 with the confrontation with the black organization

the whole story arc behind that really, starting from 335 ending with 347...

man I can list a whole bunch!

in episode 280, conan thinks haibara is leaving, but she's actually not, and asks "you will protect me right?" and conan says "yeah" all teary-eyed...

hmm in the BO confrontation arc, kudo's mom notices that haibara is in love with conan, and conan almost asks her if thats true while they are in bed together (heheh..they are in bed together).  Also in the arc, i mean conan is watching over haibara the whole time while she's sick, and haibara dreams of conan.

hmm, in the baker phantom ghost movie, haibara saves conans "virtual life" in the game if that counts.

Theres a whole bunch more you can notice, from the way she smirks at edogawa-kun and such!

I've only seen up to like 360, so there might be more!!

There's movie 5 or 6 (forgot, it was a BO movie) where Conan, when he saw Sonoko's new hair-do, which she got to look like Haibara's, Conan had a vision of the older Shiho Miyano, and his eyes got all glossy thinking about her....LOL  Kawaii!! There are some canon and non-canon moments. My favorite is always 279-280......

[soratothamax]

She doesn't always succeed in things she tries or get what she wants.

Oh thank god.
Maybe Ran isn´t "perfect" in all regards and there aren´t enough hints for her popularity- but I think Ran already has too much characteristics of a Mary Sue and if she always succeeded in everything, that would be... I don´t know. Even more annoying than it already is.

Even Ran's karate has been extremely overshadowed by Makoto "10 billion Goku" (oddly, the only time we're shown she can actually fight rather than just beat up people too shocked by a girl attacking them to fight back, she needs to be rescued by Makoto). I understand the "she's too intellectually mediocre for Shin'ichi" argument better than the Mary Sue business, disagree with that, too, but understand it. Ran's too prone to jealousy to even be a perfect Japanese male wish fulfilling wife, if that's what you mean. (She might also be putting on weight given the creases Aoyama is drawing at her upper arm/underarm area in those extremely rare instances he puts her in tank-tops nowadays. I've given up my sword-cut scar idea... Ran has become "clingy mediocre girl" in the last couple of years, instead of a "pretty girl heroine". Not that I really dislike mediocre girl-next-door characters, but I'd rather see Aoyama go back to using Aoko than turn Ran into her.)

Hm, i think i give the cookies to Xela. Oh, you don´t like them, kay. *munchmunchmunch*

I don´t think she was that overshadowed by Makoto, true she needs his help to kick-to-heaven-and-above freaking 100 Yakazus their asses, but he didn´t resuce her cause he didn´t do the whole work by himself; he was a side-kick to make tthings funnier too (Sonoko was so lol. XD). ("10 billion Goku" is the case about the Yakuzas, right?^^")
Well if her rare jealousy is the only thing which holds her up to be the dream wife woman of all japanese men then she´s almost perfect.  ;D
The one with the "putting weight on" gets me the lolz.  :D
Weren´t they times when Ran really thinks that she has gained more weight?^g^
Ran had the stuff to be a pretty girl heroine, but right now that isn´t really what i see in her. Ran was based on Aoko cause they looked so much alike in Volume 1, correct?

huh? sorry your reasoning is really bizarre...balance out shinichi what?i dont think gosho is doing that at all...i think hes spicing up the romantic side of case closed by bring haibara in...well maybe that wasnt his first intentions but you can se that in future episodes beyond where haibara first came in that gosho is trying to make hints about conan and haibara

I don´t find her (or his?) reasoning bizarre. Ran is an emotional and honest to her feelings (well, if it isn´t about her love to Shinichi) girl, which could be an balancing out for Shinichi Kudo, an most of the time logical thinking and hidden fellings person. Do i make sense?^^"
Gosho make hints to Aicon cause he knows that it will perk the interest of some of his readers and spice things up. I´m not sure, that he expected it to be an popular paaring (i can use the word "popular" in terms with Aicon, non? XP) but Ranichi is still kinda "written in stone" how another member described it so well.^g^

dude well if you think its pretty unlikely then you obiously havent seen much haibara and conan moments...and oppisites attract? really? even if thats true oppisites "attract" . thats doesnt mean oppisites fall in love and live happily ever after forever

Well he CAN have seen ALL Aicon-moments (or the ones we Aicon-fans thinks they are moments XD) and STILL have an another opinion about it.
In reality opposites can fall in love and live happily like other forms too.^^
But it´s true, that humans usually search for a partner who has more in common with them.
But it´s an manga so it´s up to Gosho-sensei and his visions.  :)

*oh please bring Shiho a second time and a third time and so on, pretty please with cookies~~~*

Lol I have seen many, but what I was referring to in my OP was that aixconan pairing in unlikely because of where the series is now. Shin/Ran seems more inclined to happen, dont you think?? Im definitly not saying its impossible, you have no clue whats going to happen in the next however many chapters.

And at the same time that doesnt mean everyone thats alike are going to fall in love and live happily for the rest of their lives. Your statement goes both ways

Haha I didnt even think about the birds of a feather phrase, but I still think opposites attract seems a bit more fitting. To me flocking together just seems like they share a common interest

The Anime OPs and EDs doesn´t say out how things will be, they show how they are or how the producer thinks they are. XP
And true, the same counts for both sides.^^

Thanks you liked it, yeah but to be able to share an common thing means to be able to speak about it (well, most of the time it counts ).
Ran and Shinichi doesn´t seem to have very much in common, the "date"in the restaurant for example (yeah, i love this volume XD):
They talked about school and Holmes (and we all know that Ran isn´t that interested in Doyle and Detective Krimi stuff like a certain other mangahuman being^g^) thats what we get from their conversation. When it gets to the important and interesting stuff, their mutal love to each other, it get cut off just like that.
And thats it, in the telefonconversations its also only about when he will come back, that he can´t say anything to her about the case and that she and the comrades in school miss him. Finito.

I think that Ai and Coann have more in common yet they have different opinions about it.
krimi, Detective Stuff and justice:
She´s interested in that one, but more of the point from the murders. When she tells others what she thinks about the case she always starts with "if i were the criminal..."
For Conan justice is absolute, for her it´s "abstract".
Or another (kinda funny thing XD) soccer:
Both (in Ais case only he and the DBs bring her into it ) like this game, both have a favorite team.
For Conan it´s the Tokyo Spirits, for Ai it´s Big Osaka. Both teams are great rivals.^^

It doesn´t mean that they fall in love cause of soccer. XDDD
But it means they can talk to each other easier then it looks for me by Ran and Shinichi.

geez are you even an aiXconan fan? your really not helping at all

This person is seeing both sides of things and being realistic, even though they are a fan. I agree with this person's posts all the way. I also find the soccer thing funny LOL  I really do feel that mental stimulation plays a big part in a relationship, not ust love. Love is the beginning, but when you get together what will make Ran and Shinichi STAY together? Stay in love?

To me, it just seems like Shinichi loves Ran because that's really the only girl he's really gotten to know well....until he met Haibara. I mean, how many girls know Shinichi really well? At first, it was only Ran, which made sense why that would be the girl he was in love with...

but now Ai knows probably EVEN MORE about him, and she even knows his dirty little secrets..... So IF THEY GAINED FEELINGS, it would be natural, though they probably won't. But it wouldn't be illogical if Goshyo decided to go that way.

I can see them together just as friends, working partners, or possible lovers...either way, it's fine. As long as they are together in the same room....

I really do think Ran is like "perfect girl" She reminds me of Sakura from Tsubasa Resevoire Chronicles and Sakura from Cardcaptor Sakura and even a little of Usagi from Sailor Moon and....just so many other female anime heroines. I don't know who to compare Haibara to......Yuuko from XXXHolic??...no...yes? not sure. She's too unique.

[James Rye]

I completely agree with this post. I'm a '90s child, but I still don't like the old-fashioned view of women....I guess I like the emo-sarcastic-intelligent woman...Haibara. She's like a goth...like the dark, mysterious type...this whole generation is....

Spoiler:

Look at the sudden fascination in Twilight.....

But people have "first loyalties" I call it. Even if the romance isn't all that interesting to others, some people will wait it out until there is something interesting....

Thank you. I agree with sarcastic and intelligent but not with emo.^^
Ai is pesimistic and thinks that hiding inside te house is an good tactical option.
Actually she enjoys her new child life without fear (mostly) and a lot of things she never did in her past or had in that amount, like friends or going to a footballmatch.^g^
When you compare her to the other girls like Ran, Kazuha and Aoko she really has a much darker personallity like them.^^"

But thats cool.  8)

*Watch spoiler* NOOOOOOO! AWAY! GET AWAY FROM ME! TOO...MUCH...SPARKLING! ARgl....

So much for the so called first loyalty..

We had kinda discussed bout this, Nowadays, you could easily find manga's where the Male main character (thought he always already has crush on childhood friend, or something like that) ended up with the later introduced girl..

Hm, they was one about a guy who fall in love with this black-haired girl cause of her strawberry panties...then he meets other girls who also wears them (yeah, harem...)...in the end he get together with the second girl who had short blond hair... but i just don´t get the name from this manga... -.-

geez are you even an aiXconan fan? your really not helping at all

Excusez me please.
YEAH I AM A AICON-FAN!
If you watch the last few pages back, you can be sure i did more for aicon then you.
I didn´t like Ranichi since Vol. 1 cause it felt wrong and forced for my taste (that were lonely times...) and like Aicon since Vol. 26 cause we get to see a one-sided love (for now^g^) who was very good hinted and hidden.

This person is seeing both sides of things and being realistic, even though they are a fan. I agree with this person's posts all the way. I also find the soccer thing funny LOL  I really do feel that mental stimulation plays a big part in a relationship, not ust love. Love is the beginning, but when you get together what will make Ran and Shinichi STAY together? Stay in love?

Thanks again. Eri and Kogoro tried and it didn´t go that well...

To me, it just seems like Shinichi loves Ran because that's really the only girl he's really gotten to know well....until he met Haibara. I mean, how many girls know Shinichi really well? At first, it was only Ran, which made sense why that would be the girl he was in love with...

but now Ai knows probably EVEN MORE about him, and she even knows his dirty little secrets..... So IF THEY GAINED FEELINGS, it would be natural, though they probably won't. But it wouldn't be illogical if Goshyo decided to go that way.

I can see them together just as friends, working partners, or possible lovers...either way, it's fine. As long as they are together in the same room....

Not many girls know him that well like those two do. No one else then them, i guess.

She knows not more (Ran has the avandatge cause of their long relationship) but "other" sides from Shinichi Ran didn´t see. For example his glance when he suspects someone. Ran noticed his confident (and cocky) smile when he clears a case, but Ai noticed his change, his doubt towards a person, in his eyes.
It wouldn´t be illogical as long as when Goshso make his change good and plausible.

Same bedroom. XDDD
Joke.^^
Right now they are friends and partners, but i think that they aren´t stuck to only that like Ran and Shinichi are still to their "old friends"- image. In the beginning it was hard to believe, that Conan would forgive Ai and works sincerly with her, but now...

I really do think Ran is like "perfect girl" She reminds me of Sakura from Tsubasa Resevoire Chronicles and Sakura from Cardcaptor Sakura and even a little of Usagi from Sailor Moon and....just so many other female anime heroines. I don't know who to compare Haibara to......Yuuko from XXXHolic??...no...yes? not sure. She's too unique.

I get your remindings with Ran but Yuuko and Ai? Hm, not sure either...

A personal question, soratothamax: Are you the one who has written thoses entries on animejournal2, livejournal and animejournal.diaryland? 

[Xela]

Hm, they was one about a guy who fall in love with this black-haired girl cause of her strawberry panties...then he meets other girls who also wears them (yeah, harem...)...in the end he get together with the second girl who had short blond hair... but i just don´t get the name from this manga... -.-

It´s "Ichigo 100%".

[James Rye]

Hm, they was one about a guy who fall in love with this black-haired girl cause of her strawberry panties...then he meets other girls who also wears them (yeah, harem...)...in the end he get together with the second girl who had short blond hair... but i just don´t get the name from this manga... -.-

It´s "Ichigo 100%".

OF COURCE! I know it was something with ichigo, but it wasn´t that good, so i forgot the name. Thanks anyway.^g^

[soratothamax]

I completely agree with this post. I'm a '90s child, but I still don't like the old-fashioned view of women....I guess I like the emo-sarcastic-intelligent woman...Haibara. She's like a goth...like the dark, mysterious type...this whole generation is....

Spoiler:

Look at the sudden fascination in Twilight.....

But people have "first loyalties" I call it. Even if the romance isn't all that interesting to others, some people will wait it out until there is something interesting....

Thank you. I agree with sarcastic and intelligent but not with emo.^^
Ai is pesimistic and thinks that hiding inside te house is an good tactical option.
Actually she enjoys her new child life without fear (mostly) and a lot of things she never did in her past or had in that amount, like friends or going to a footballmatch.^g^
When you compare her to the other girls like Ran, Kazuha and Aoko she really has a much darker personallity like them.^^"

But thats cool.  8)

*Watch spoiler* NOOOOOOO! AWAY! GET AWAY FROM ME! TOO...MUCH...SPARKLING! ARgl....

So much for the so called first loyalty..

We had kinda discussed bout this, Nowadays, you could easily find manga's where the Male main character (thought he always already has crush on childhood friend, or something like that) ended up with the later introduced girl..

Hm, they was one about a guy who fall in love with this black-haired girl cause of her strawberry panties...then he meets other girls who also wears them (yeah, harem...)...in the end he get together with the second girl who had short blond hair... but i just don´t get the name from this manga... -.-

geez are you even an aiXconan fan? your really not helping at all

Excusez me please.
YEAH I AM A AICON-FAN!
If you watch the last few pages back, you can be sure i did more for aicon then you.
I didn´t like Ranichi since Vol. 1 cause it felt wrong and forced for my taste (that were lonely times...) and like Aicon since Vol. 26 cause we get to see a one-sided love (for now^g^) who was very good hinted and hidden.

This person is seeing both sides of things and being realistic, even though they are a fan. I agree with this person's posts all the way. I also find the soccer thing funny LOL  I really do feel that mental stimulation plays a big part in a relationship, not ust love. Love is the beginning, but when you get together what will make Ran and Shinichi STAY together? Stay in love?

Thanks again. Eri and Kogoro tried and it didn´t go that well...

To me, it just seems like Shinichi loves Ran because that's really the only girl he's really gotten to know well....until he met Haibara. I mean, how many girls know Shinichi really well? At first, it was only Ran, which made sense why that would be the girl he was in love with...

but now Ai knows probably EVEN MORE about him, and she even knows his dirty little secrets..... So IF THEY GAINED FEELINGS, it would be natural, though they probably won't. But it wouldn't be illogical if Goshyo decided to go that way.

I can see them together just as friends, working partners, or possible lovers...either way, it's fine. As long as they are together in the same room....

Not many girls know him that well like those two do. No one else then them, i guess.

She knows not more (Ran has the avandatge cause of their long relationship) but "other" sides from Shinichi Ran didn´t see. For example his glance when he suspects someone. Ran noticed his confident (and cocky) smile when he clears a case, but Ai noticed his change, his doubt towards a person, in his eyes.
It wouldn´t be illogical as long as when Goshso make his change good and plausible.

Same bedroom. XDDD
Joke.^^
Right now they are friends and partners, but i think that they aren´t stuck to only that like Ran and Shinichi are still to their "old friends"- image. In the beginning it was hard to believe, that Conan would forgive Ai and works sincerly with her, but now...

I really do think Ran is like "perfect girl" She reminds me of Sakura from Tsubasa Resevoire Chronicles and Sakura from Cardcaptor Sakura and even a little of Usagi from Sailor Moon and....just so many other female anime heroines. I don't know who to compare Haibara to......Yuuko from XXXHolic??...no...yes? not sure. She's too unique.

I get your remindings with Ran but Yuuko and Ai? Hm, not sure either...

A personal question, soratothamax: Are you the one who has written thoses entries on animejournal2, livejournal and animejournal.diaryland? 

To James Rye: yes I am how'd u guess? I have a Ran/Ai article, but I was trying to be more fair about it....

Spoiler:

http://animejournal.diaryland.com/ranaidc.html

bot: yea, I couldn't think of anyone that reminded me of Haibara at the time......I said Yuuko cause of the teasing mysterious demeanor, but other than that....no she's not like Yuuko...man who is Haibara like?

[kirite]

Just a note:

Peoples let's do everyone a favor and trim your quotes to a decent size when you quote them k?  Wall-o-text quoting is hard to follow because people won't know exactly what you're responding to.  If you're adding on to someone's point you can just say "like soratothemax said" or something like that.

For example instead of quoting the entire bloc of text on sora's last post.  I'll only keep the part that I'm planning to reply to:

I get your remindings with Ran but Yuuko and Ai? Hm, not sure either...

A personal question, soratothamax: Are you the one who has written thoses entries on animejournal2, livejournal and animejournal.diaryland?  ???

To James Rye: yes I am how'd u guess? I have a Ran/Ai article, but I was trying to be more fair about it....

Spoiler:

http://animejournal.diaryland.com/ranaidc.html

bot: yea, I couldn't think of anyone that reminded me of Haibara at the time......I said Yuuko cause of the teasing mysterious demeanor, but other than that....no she's not like Yuuko...man who is Haibara like?

A rule to remember:

If you're a fan of a character then your character will be irreplacable because you studied him/her in more depth.  A Shinichi fan will say Shinichi is unique and irreplacable but a non-Shinichi fan will just say he's Gary Stu male lead character number 5029031.  As for Haibara she reminds me of many character (Anna from Shaman King for example) but I won't go into that because I am a Haibara fan and to me she's unique and irreplacable (my opinion is bias already xD).

Really Haibs is just a girl who wants to be with the people she loves.  I don't think her and Ran are that different.

[ranger]

sora, i read your article, it was great.  nice to find more conan and Ai fans!

Throughout the whole series, kudo's confession to Ran has always been delayed, so maybe this is a message to the fans that it wont happen!

[James Rye]

To James Rye: yes I am how'd u guess? I have a Ran/Ai article, but I was trying to be more fair about it....

Spoiler:

http://animejournal.diaryland.com/ranaidc.html

Mangafoxforum. i readed that you have written soemthing about it and then i searched for thoses articles. They were good by the way.^^

Just a note:
Peoples let's do everyone a favor and trim your quotes to a decent size when you quote them k?  Wall-o-text quoting is hard to follow because people won't know exactly what you're responding to.  If you're adding on to someone's point you can just say "like soratothemax said" or something like that.

Yes, mommy.  :D

A rule to remember:

If you're a fan of a character then your character will be irreplacable because you studied him/her in more depth.  A Shinichi fan will say Shinichi is unique and irreplacable but a non-Shinichi fan will just say he's Gary Stu male lead character number 5029031.  As for Haibara she reminds me of many character (Anna from Shaman King for example) but I won't go into that because I am a Haibara fan and to me she's unique and irreplacable (my opinion is bias already xD).

Really Haibs is just a girl who wants to be with the people she loves.  I don't think her and Ran are that different.

*slaps his forehead*
Uh, there am i, bringing up a funny site about how Ai cosplayed Anna and then i don´t get who she kinda resembles!
That slap hurts...  :-X

In the Manga Conan said the same, that Ran and Ai are very alike, he said they were the caring-type.^g^
Still, both are different how they show it and i´m glad that Ai isn´t a second Ran.  ;D

sora, i read your article, it was great.  nice to find more conan and Ai fans!

Throughout the whole series, kudo's confession to Ran has always been delayed, so maybe this is a message to the fans that it wont happen!

Or it means that Gosho saves it for the finale. A confession, a kiss and then Shinichi tells Ran that he was Conan, Ran gets mad and kill Shinichi with her karate, fin.
(*extra ending* Ai use something from the BO to bring Shinichi back to life, he realize that she loves him, fall for her, kiss again and Shinichi gets into prison cause of pedophile, fin.)

[Soragirl6]

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Not many girls know him that well like those two do. No one else then them, i guess.

She knows not more (Ran has the avandatge cause of their long relationship) but "other" sides from Shinichi Ran didn´t see. For example his glance when he suspects someone. Ran noticed his confident (and cocky) smile when he clears a case, but Ai noticed his change, his doubt towards a person, in his eyes.
It wouldn´t be illogical as long as when Goshso make his change good and plausible.

I really do think Ran is like "perfect girl" She reminds me of Sakura from Tsubasa Resevoire Chronicles and Sakura from Cardcaptor Sakura and even a little of Usagi from Sailor Moon and....just so many other female anime heroines. I don't know who to compare Haibara to......Yuuko from XXXHolic??...no...yes? not sure. She's too unique.

I get your remindings with Ran but Yuuko and Ai? Hm, not sure either...

A personal question, soratothamax: Are you the one who has written thoses entries on animejournal2, livejournal and animejournal.diaryland? 
[/quote]

I agree with you on everything but Ran knowing Shinchi more. Ran has known him longer but not as much. You can know somebody for a long time and find out that you don't know that person at all....actually my friend and this other guy I knew are a prime example of that. Haibara knows more about him than Ran and a lot of his facial expressions she can tell as well without knowing him as long as Ran. Ran only knows when he suspects someone and even Haibara knows that. As much as he knows about Ran, cause its so obvious anyone could read Ran,  he doesn't seem to be himself like he is around Ai. People try to say its because he can't express his feelings but he would be the same way around Ai....he's still more of himself around Ai. Ai was more of a mystery at first but they spent more quality time together and they are growing closer together.....(When he was around Ran it was cut short because he had he mysteries to solve.) So, at one time Ran knew him the most but Ai has gotten up close and personal with the REAL Shinchi Kudo. Ran knows the show-off and always has. And if she does know him well, and also if he knows her well, they must already realize they don't have barely anything in common, even when it comes to relationships.

Yeah..I agree on Ai.....Ai is nothing like Yuuko.....she's much dryer....^^

[James Rye]

I agree with you on everything but Ran knowing Shinchi more. Ran has known him longer but not as much. You can know somebody for a long time and find out that you don't know that person at all....actually my friend and this other guy I knew are a prime example of that. Haibara knows more about him than Ran and a lot of his facial expressions she can tell as well without knowing him as long as Ran. Ran only knows when he suspects someone and even Haibara knows that. As much as he knows about Ran, cause its so obvious anyone could read Ran,  he doesn't seem to be himself like he is around Ai. People try to say its because he can't express his feelings but he would be the same way around Ai....he's still more of himself around Ai. Ai was more of a mystery at first but they spent more quality time together and they are growing closer together.....(When he was around Ran it was cut short because he had he mysteries to solve.) So, at one time Ran knew him the most but Ai has gotten up close and personal with the REAL Shinchi Kudo. Ran knows the show-off and always has. And if she does know him well, and also if he knows her well, they must already realize they don't have barely anything in common, even when it comes to relationships.

Yeah..I agree on Ai.....Ai is nothing like Yuuko.....she's much dryer....^^

Hm, yeah that could count for Ran and Shinichi cause both weared masks in the past years to cover their feelings for each other.
I also have the feeling that Shinichi is as Conan more "himself" around Ai then around Ran. he doesn´t put up a "wall" like he do with Ran, he seems more witty and sarcastic.

About Ai and a mystery... everything Shinichi knows about Ai true self (not about the BO) he need to find it out on his own. He didn´t get it for free like Rans confession, she didn´t told him almost anything about herself.
My personal problem about Ranichi is that it´s moast of the time Ranco.^^"
We know since Vol. 1 that both are in love with each other, but afterwards we only get to show why Ran is the "perfect" and "only" woman for Shinichi, it feeled more like a Bride-show than a growing love. Only my personaly opinion, guys. 

[AICHAN]

I agree with you on everything but Ran knowing Shinchi more. Ran has known him longer but not as much. You can know somebody for a long time and find out that you don't know that person at all....actually my friend and this other guy I knew are a prime example of that. Haibara knows more about him than Ran and a lot of his facial expressions she can tell as well without knowing him as long as Ran. Ran only knows when he suspects someone and even Haibara knows that. As much as he knows about Ran, cause its so obvious anyone could read Ran,  he doesn't seem to be himself like he is around Ai. People try to say its because he can't express his feelings but he would be the same way around Ai....he's still more of himself around Ai. Ai was more of a mystery at first but they spent more quality time together and they are growing closer together.....(When he was around Ran it was cut short because he had he mysteries to solve.) So, at one time Ran knew him the most but Ai has gotten up close and personal with the REAL Shinchi Kudo. Ran knows the show-off and always has. And if she does know him well, and also if he knows her well, they must already realize they don't have barely anything in common, even when it comes to relationships.

Yeah..I agree on Ai.....Ai is nothing like Yuuko.....she's much dryer....^^

Hm, yeah that could count for Ran and Shinichi cause both weared masks in the past years to cover their feelings for each other.
I also have the feeling that Shinichi is as Conan more "himself" around Ai then around Ran. he doesn´t put up a "wall" like he do with Ran, he seems more witty and sarcastic.

About Ai and a mystery... everything Shinichi knows about Ai true self (not about the BO) he need to find it out on his own. He didn´t get it for free like Rans confession, she didn´t told him almost anything about herself.
My personal problem about Ranichi is that it´s moast of the time Ranco.^^"
We know since Vol. 1 that both are in love with each other, but afterwards we only get to show why Ran is the "perfect" and "only" woman for Shinichi, it feeled more like a Bride-show than a growing love. Only my personaly opinion, guys. 

AMEN!!!!!! james and sorathomax,  you  say exactly what i think about them!!are you a thelepath? i can't agree more!

by the way sorathomax,i read your article!very good and  interesting !great job!

  geez are you even an aiXconan fan? your really not helping at all
                                                                                         

being an aixconan fan doesn't mean you have to think they will end together
like james rye and other members here  i'm a huge coai fan but i  still realist !i will support them and defend my opinions until the end even if i know they most likely won't happen!
anyway,just watching at them and their relationship make me happy and touch me in my     
heart and in my soul more than any other couple, that's it!

In the Manga Conan said the same, that Ran and Ai are very alike, he said they were the caring-type.^g^
                                                                                                                 

when?in which manga,i don't remember