Nyarl wrote:
Xela wrote:
She doesn't always succeed in things she tries or get what she wants.
Oh thank god.
Maybe Ran isn´t "perfect" in all regards and there aren´t enough hints for her popularity- but I think Ran already has too much characteristics of a Mary Sue and if she
always succeeded in
everything, that would be... I don´t know. Even more annoying than it already is.
Even Ran's karate has been extremely overshadowed by Makoto "10 billion Goku" (oddly, the only time we're shown she can actually fight rather than just beat up people too shocked by a girl attacking them to fight back, she needs to be rescued by Makoto). I understand the "she's too intellectually mediocre for Shin'ichi" argument better than the Mary Sue business, disagree with that, too, but understand it. Ran's too prone to jealousy to even be a perfect Japanese male wish fulfilling wife, if that's what you mean. (She might also be putting on weight given the creases Aoyama is drawing at her upper arm/underarm area in those extremely rare instances he puts her in tank-tops nowadays. I've given up my sword-cut scar idea... Ran has become "clingy mediocre girl" in the last couple of years, instead of a "pretty girl heroine". Not that I really dislike mediocre girl-next-door characters, but I'd rather see Aoyama go back to using Aoko than turn Ran into her.)
Hm, i think i give the cookies to Xela. Oh, you don´t like them, kay. *munchmunchmunch*
I don´t think she was that overshadowed by Makoto, true she needs his help to kick-to-heaven-and-above freaking 100 Yakazus their asses, but he didn´t resuce her cause he didn´t do the whole work by himself; he was a side-kick to make tthings funnier too (Sonoko was so lol. XD). ("10 billion Goku" is the case about the Yakuzas, right?^^")
Well if her rare jealousy is the only thing which holds her up to be the dream wife woman of all japanese men then she´s almost perfect. ;D
The one with the "putting weight on" gets me the lolz. :D
Weren´t they times when Ran really thinks that she has gained more weight?^g^
Ran had the stuff to be a pretty girl heroine, but right now that isn´t really what i see in her. Ran was based on Aoko cause they looked so much alike in Volume 1, correct?
KaitoKid0 wrote:
huh? sorry your reasoning is really bizarre...balance out shinichi what?i dont think gosho is doing that at all...i think hes spicing up the romantic side of case closed by bring haibara in...well maybe that wasnt his first intentions but you can se that in future episodes beyond where haibara first came in that gosho is trying to make hints about conan and haibara
I don´t find her (or his?) reasoning bizarre. Ran is an emotional and honest to her feelings (well, if it isn´t about her love to Shinichi) girl, which could be an balancing out for Shinichi Kudo, an most of the time logical thinking and hidden fellings person. Do i make sense?^^"
Gosho make hints to Aicon cause he knows that it will perk the interest of some of his readers and spice things up. I´m not sure, that he expected it to be an popular paaring (i can use the word "popular" in terms with Aicon, non? XP) but Ranichi is still kinda "written in stone" how another member described it so well.^g^
KaitoKid0 wrote:
dude well if you think its pretty unlikely then you obiously havent seen much haibara and conan moments...and oppisites attract? really? even if thats true oppisites "attract" . thats doesnt mean oppisites fall in love and live happily ever after forever
Well he CAN have seen ALL Aicon-moments (or the ones we Aicon-fans thinks they are moments XD) and STILL have an another opinion about it.
In reality opposites can fall in love and live happily like other forms too.^^
But it´s true, that humans usually search for a partner who has more in common with them.
But it´s an manga so it´s up to Gosho-sensei and his visions. :)
*oh please bring Shiho a second time and a third time and so on, pretty please with cookies~~~*
DSF wrote:
Lol I have seen many, but what I was referring to in my OP was that aixconan pairing in unlikely because of where the series is now. Shin/Ran seems more inclined to happen, dont you think?? Im definitly not saying its impossible, you have no clue whats going to happen in the next however many chapters.
And at the same time that doesnt mean everyone thats alike are going to fall in love and live happily for the rest of their lives. Your statement goes both ways
Haha I didnt even think about the birds of a feather phrase, but I still think opposites attract seems a bit more fitting. To me flocking together just seems like they share a common interest
The Anime OPs and EDs doesn´t say out how things will be, they show how they are or how the producer thinks they are. XP
And true, the same counts for both sides.^^
Thanks you liked it, yeah but to be able to share an common thing means to be able to speak about it (well, most of the time it counts
).
Ran and Shinichi doesn´t seem to have very much in common, the "date"in the restaurant for example (yeah, i love this volume XD):
They talked about school and Holmes (and we all know that Ran isn´t that interested in Doyle and Detective Krimi stuff like a certain other mangahuman being^g^) thats what we get from their conversation. When it gets to the important and interesting stuff, their mutal love to each other, it get cut off just like that.
And thats it, in the telefonconversations its also only about when he will come back, that he can´t say anything to her about the case and that she and the comrades in school miss him. Finito.
I think that Ai and Coann have more in common yet they have different opinions about it.
krimi, Detective Stuff and justice:
She´s interested in that one, but more of the point from the murders. When she tells others what she thinks about the case she always starts with "if i were the criminal..."
For Conan justice is absolute, for her it´s "abstract".
Or another (kinda funny thing XD) soccer:
Both (in Ais case only he and the DBs bring her into it
) like this game, both have a favorite team.
For Conan it´s the Tokyo Spirits, for Ai it´s Big Osaka. Both teams are great rivals.^^
It doesn´t mean that they fall in love cause of soccer. XDDD
But it means they can talk to each other easier then it looks for me by Ran and Shinichi.
(and I personally think that's how much her feelings towards Conan/Shinichi amount to.) Even if she does have feelings as more than a friend, I think it's one-sided... :/ of course Conan does care for her a lot, but he does have a kind of 'hero' complex to protect everyone, and I think he values her as a friend who has helped him out more than once out of a bad situation. but still I think the one that sets his heart racing is Ran, and vice versa...
