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Was it the same trunk?
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: What's with you all ending up in a trunk? XD
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while there was another person in the trunk with me, no it wasn't chek :V
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Akonyl wrote:there was another person in the trunk with me
Scandalous!  :o

Btw, yes let's keep discussing things like how it's not possible for Kogorou to still be alive with 500 needles stuck in various parts of his body, how the needles can go through his forehead, how at least 50 pound of flesh can melt away into thin air and come back from thin air, how everywhere Conan goes someone dies, how Ran can bend metal poles with a sideways punch while standing still, how Kaitou Kid can don a foolproof disguise in 1/2 a second, etc.

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Abs. wrote:
Akonyl wrote:there was another person in the trunk with me
Scandalous!   :o

Btw, yes let's keep discussing things like how it's not possible for Kogorou to still be alive with 500 needles stuck in various parts of his body, how the needles can go through his forehead, how at least 50 pound of flesh can melt away into thin air and come back from thin air, how everywhere Conan goes someone dies, how Ran can bend metal poles with a sideways punch while standing still, how Kaitou Kid can don a foolproof disguise in 1/2 a second, etc.

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By the way. Do you think Haibara know Moroboshi Dai is an FBI agent. She certainly not know that his name is also Akai Shuichi who help her friend in Domon' assasination case and listening to Conan' advice in Clash. But Akemi should give her some reason that Moroboshi Dai suddenly disappear and they (Akemi and Shiho) were move to another place.

basically my question is. Is Shiho ?
1. Know Moroboshi Dai was undercover and know his suddenly disappearance because his cover is blow.
2. Didn't know why Moroboshi Dai disappearance and don't think he involve with her sister' death.

Just to remind you. In flashback when Haibara first watching Conan solve case. She talk to Akemi and she ask Akemi "I heard you in difficult situation right now, are you OK" which Akime reple she OK, and then get killed. that mean Shiho didn't know Dai involve in Akemi's hard time. IIRCC I think Haibara know that her sister was kill because she try to get them out of the organization but I can't fine the scene to prove this.
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Well, if she's heard that, then this probably means she found out that Dai was a spy and as his lover, she is bound to encounter problems because of that. And I think she was important enough a member for her to hear about something like this. Especially considering her relationship with Gin and Akemi.

And Akai also originally intended to contact Shiho through Akemi, so they might have known each other fairly well.
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Dus wrote: And Akai also originally intended to contact Shiho through Akemi, so they might have known each other fairly well.
They would have had to know each other well enough that Akai would be worried she'd recognize him, even with him wearing other clothes and cutting his hair.  He seemed pretty certain that she'd know who he was.
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User 4869 wrote: By the way. Do you think Haibara know Moroboshi Dai is an FBI agent. She certainly not know that his name is also Akai Shuichi who help her friend in Domon' assasination case and listening to Conan' advice in Clash. But Akemi should give her some reason that Moroboshi Dai suddenly disappear and they (Akemi and Shiho) were move to another place.

basically my question is. Is Shiho ?
1. Know Moroboshi Dai was undercover and know his suddenly disappearance because his cover is blow.
2. Didn't know why Moroboshi Dai disappearance and don't think he involve with her sister' death.

Just to remind you. In flashback when Haibara first watching Conan solve case. She talk to Akemi and she ask Akemi "I heard you in difficult situation right now, are you OK" which Akime reple she OK, and then get killed. that mean Shiho didn't know Dai involve in Akemi's hard time. IIRCC I think Haibara know that her sister was kill because she try to get them out of the organization but I can't fine the scene to prove this.
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she doesn't know anything about the Moroboshi dai=FBI=Shuichi Akai...
she doesn't know why Gin killed Akemi(that's why she stopped the researches,because they didn't gave her a answer) Ai still think it's because Akemi wanted to get them out of the Org.
I also think she doesn't know why Moroboshi Dai disappeared...I guess Akemi gave her a fake explanation not to worry her...
Moreover Akai tried to avoid her many times...and Conan doesn't want Haibara to meet Akai,because she would recognize him and she would know the truth about Akemi's death...


that's why I'm so exciting about the Okiya/Bourbon thing...there will be so much dramas if Shiho discovers the truth about Akai ^^(And I think Ai will be angry against conan for hiding her the truth)
I'm just waiting for Gosho to give us more Okiya/Ai cases...  ::)
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Can you mention the scene that indicate that Haibara think her sister try to get them out of the organization.



I think both Conan and Ai don't have any right to anger at someone who keep the truth from them since they do that all the time (for Haibara case, I mean, for example, "Kurayoshi" and "You are part of 50 years project" thing and in Conan case, just ask Ran).
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Abs. wrote:
Akonyl wrote:there was another person in the trunk with me
Scandalous!  :o

Btw, yes let's keep discussing things like how it's not possible for Kogorou to still be alive with 500 needles stuck in various parts of his body, how the needles can go through his forehead, how at least 50 pound of flesh can melt away into thin air and come back from thin air, how everywhere Conan goes someone dies, how Ran can bend metal poles with a sideways punch while standing still, how Kaitou Kid can don a foolproof disguise in 1/2 a second, etc.

Bring it on, I say.
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User 4869 wrote: Can you mention the scene that indicate that Haibara think her sister try to get them out of the organization.
I don't remember exactly but I think it was in volume 18 when she was introduced...but I'm not sure... :|
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I think both Conan and Ai don't have any right to anger at someone who keep the truth from them since they do that all the time (for Haibara case, I mean, for example, "Kurayoshi" and "You are part of 50 years project" thing and in Conan case, just ask Ran).
it's not the same situation...If my sister was dead,I would like to know why...of course it won't change anything,but when people loose someone they love,they always want the truth,it's like a consolation,or a way to mourn the victim... :-\

and I don't think Akai wanted to hide the truth because he wanted to protect Ai (unlike Conan with Ran)...he was just not ready to face Ai and tell her the truth,he feels responsible of her sorrow
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Akonyl wrote: I've done it too (for a longer time than I wanted to, they decided to go on a joyride when I was back there :V), and there were no gas fumes and I was fine afterwards, so I'm guessing the car you were in must've had a busted exhaust system if it was leaking fumes into the trunk (which is bad, as oftentimes trunks aren't airtight against the cabin). :P
My experience in a trunk went just fine minus the joyride. I think you were in a bad car, Sora. I had no problems with balance after leaving the trunk either. If anything, Ran would have an easier time adjusting and reacting well since she does karate and is used to coping with dizziness and off key senses after taking hits.
How long were you in? I was in there for a while. Maybe more than 3 hours.

Who let you out? Man, I must've been a bad car. Cuz after that I vowed I wouldn't do it again. But I have a weak stomach too. So, my senses are really sharp causing negative reactions in my body. My doctor told me after the fact. ;D

That's another thing. Who let Ran out of the trunk? I've never known a trunk to open from the inside of the trunk unless the wiring was triggered and in the dark, who can see it?

@Abs. YES BRING IT ON again !!!! woot woot! But then again, it's those random moments that give me a good laugh.  ;D
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AICHAN wrote:
User 4869 wrote: Can you mention the scene that indicate that Haibara think her sister try to get them out of the organization.
I don't remember exactly but I think it was in volume 18 when she was introduced...but I'm not sure... :|
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I think both Conan and Ai don't have any right to anger at someone who keep the truth from them since they do that all the time (for Haibara case, I mean, for example, "Kurayoshi" and "You are part of 50 years project" thing and in Conan case, just ask Ran).
it's not the same situation...If my sister was dead,I would like to know why...of course it won't change anything,but when people loose someone they love,they always want the truth,it's like a consolation,or a way to mourn the victim... :-\

and I don't think Akai wanted to hide the truth because he wanted to protect Ai (unlike Conan with Ran)...he was just not ready to face Ai and tell her the truth,he feels responsible of her sorrow
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soratothamax wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Akonyl wrote: I've done it too (for a longer time than I wanted to, they decided to go on a joyride when I was back there :V), and there were no gas fumes and I was fine afterwards, so I'm guessing the car you were in must've had a busted exhaust system if it was leaking fumes into the trunk (which is bad, as oftentimes trunks aren't airtight against the cabin). :P
My experience in a trunk went just fine minus the joyride. I think you were in a bad car, Sora. I had no problems with balance after leaving the trunk either. If anything, Ran would have an easier time adjusting and reacting well since she does karate and is used to coping with dizziness and off key senses after taking hits.
How long were you in? I was in there for a while. Maybe more than 3 hours.

Who let you out? Man, I must've been a bad car. Cuz after that I vowed I wouldn't do it again. But I have a weak stomach too. So, my senses are really sharp causing negative reactions in my body. My doctor told me after the fact. ;D

That's another thing. Who let Ran out of the trunk? I've never known a trunk to open from the inside of the trunk unless the wiring was triggered and in the dark, who can see it?

@Abs. YES BRING IT ON again !!!! woot woot! But then again, it's those random moments that give me a good laugh.  ;D
Car trunks have a glow in the dark pull switch that is kinda tucked away but still visible to someone inside it. Plus trunks are neither airtight nor have gas fumes going through them. You can manage to stay in one for maybe anywhere from thirty minutes to maybe an hour or so before the tight space gets too much for you. The time may differ due to temperature, the size of the trunk, the overall space left in the trunk once someone gets in it and other factors. Don't even ask how I know this. You had to either have been in a really terrible car or the driver must have driving like a nut case for you to have gotten sick from that.
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