Forum reserved for discussing specific points of the story—mostly from the manga. Be warned, these discussions will be current with the manga and will spoil many plot lines for anime-centric fans.
eworm wrote:
I really hope Shuuichi is DEAD. Permanently. Don't misunderstand. I like him a lot. And still... Well, I guess he's alive, so nevermind.
YES.
you may be the only other person who feels the same way on this, as far as I know. :/
I agree with you both. I hope he's dead and buried and that Gosho won't bring him back using some weird explanation (and if ever he does, it better be good).
kkakaroto9 wrote:
Sorry , but the people that Think this Arc is as simple as Okiya= Akai and Scar Akai = Bourbon in my opinion is wrong. I dont have evidence , but i think that.
Why Gosho give us a lot of evidence that Akai=Okiya ? and that S. Akai is NOT the real Akai ? that is because this Arc is more complex than we think
Be careful with this theory. You will be flamed....but I'm with you on this.
While the evidence is not as obvious if you have to figure it out on your own, I do think that Gosho might just want us to think that Okiya is Akai, when he is in fact a third party.
We don't make mistakes. We have happy accidents.
Remember: A thin paint will stick to a thick paint.
kkakaroto9 wrote:
Sorry , but the people that Think this Arc is as simple as Okiya= Akai and Scar Akai = Bourbon in my opinion is wrong. I dont have evidence , but i think that.
Why Gosho give us a lot of evidence that Akai=Okiya ? and that S. Akai is NOT the real Akai ? that is because this Arc is more complex than we think
Be careful with this theory. You will be flamed....but I'm with you on this.
While the evidence is not as obvious if you have to figure it out on your own, I do think that Gosho might just want us to think that Okiya is Akai, when he is in fact a third party.
My evidence is simply they have different voice--overs, which would have been a waste of time for Gosho. He would never allow the use of a random voice when a person hasn't been a character. He approved of that, so I don't think he intended for them to be the same character imo. Voice transmitters are only activated with a voice that is familiar. I have a different idea i mid for Okiya...
This is all my opinion. On a side note, I really hope they aren't.
Yeah, I've been wondering about the voice as well. Doesn't count as evidence though, the anime people could have messed up or it could be explained with one of Agasa's gadgets.
We don't make mistakes. We have happy accidents.
Remember: A thin paint will stick to a thick paint.
kkakaroto9 wrote:
Sorry , but the people that Think this Arc is as simple as Okiya= Akai and Scar Akai = Bourbon in my opinion is wrong. I dont have evidence , but i think that.
Why Gosho give us a lot of evidence that Akai=Okiya ? and that S. Akai is NOT the real Akai ? that is because this Arc is more complex than we think
Be careful with this theory. You will be flamed....but I'm with you on this.
While the evidence is not as obvious if you have to figure it out on your own, I do think that Gosho might just want us to think that Okiya is Akai, when he is in fact a third party.
Now if only Gosho would move on and actually ends this dispute Last time, the Vermouth arc, he didn't dragged it out this long
Wakarimashita wrote:
Vermouth Arc : 176-345 ==> 170 episodes, 62 AOs = 108 manga based episodes
Okiya Arc : 509-594 ==> 86 episodes, 26 AOs = 60 manga based episodes
The numbers speak for themselves.
And here I've felt like it's been forever
but apparently we have 40+ manga based eps to go
I think it's because during the Vermouth arc, Gosho gave his readers hints here and there quite frequently, sometimes just making it last 3 or 4 minutes at the beginning/end of a case. He doesn't do that in this arc, it's a shame.
"I wonder if there really is a God...
If such an entity really existed, wouldn't all honest, hard-working people be happy?"
Dus wrote:
Yeah, I've been wondering about the voice as well. Doesn't count as evidence though, the anime people could have messed up or it could be explained with one of Agasa's gadgets.
I'm not going to explain my whole idea again with this. It leaves too many burns from flamers.
Wakarimashita wrote:
I think it's because during the Vermouth arc, Gosho gave his readers hints here and there quite frequently, sometimes just making it last 3 or 4 minutes at the beginning/end of a case. He doesn't do that in this arc, it's a shame.
Wakarimashita wrote:
I think it's because during the Vermouth arc, Gosho gave his readers hints here and there quite frequently, sometimes just making it last 3 or 4 minutes at the beginning/end of a case. He doesn't do that in this arc, it's a shame.
xpon wrote:
Almost all police is Detective Conan is less importance than the Detectives.....
1st Doctor: One day I shall come back, yes I shall come back. Till then there shall be no fears, no tears and no anxieties, just go forward in your beliefs and prove to me I am not mistaken in mine. Good bye Susan. Good bye my Dear.
Wakarimashita wrote:
I think it's because during the Vermouth arc, Gosho gave his readers hints here and there quite frequently, sometimes just making it last 3 or 4 minutes at the beginning/end of a case. He doesn't do that in this arc, it's a shame.
sooooooooooo Okiya is going to be Genta's dad but there is so many age difference between them ( okiya is earily 20's as he is supposed to be uni student and Genta's dad is older than that)
xpon wrote:
Almost all police is Detective Conan is less importance than the Detectives.....
1st Doctor: One day I shall come back, yes I shall come back. Till then there shall be no fears, no tears and no anxieties, just go forward in your beliefs and prove to me I am not mistaken in mine. Good bye Susan. Good bye my Dear.
Here's two alternate theories just for the hell of it:
1: Subaru Okiya is neither Bourbon nor Akai
- He's part of the Interpol. Yûsaku Kudô was worried about his son, so he asked a friend of his in the Interpol, Subaru Okiya, to keep an eye on him and his friends. (Very early on, during Yûsaku and Yukiko's first appearance, it was mentioned that he had contacts in the Interpol. This was never followed through...)
2: Subaru Okiya is Bourbon and Akai
- Subaru Okiya is not only Akai in disguise, he's also undercover in the BO as Bourbon. Wouldn't that be a shock.
Puto wrote:
Here's two alternate theories just for the hell of it:
1: Subaru Okiya is neither Bourbon nor Akai
- He's part of the Interpol. Yûsaku Kudô was worried about his son, so he asked a friend of his in the Interpol, Subaru Okiya, to keep an eye on him and his friends. (Very early on, during Yûsaku and Yukiko's first appearance, it was mentioned that he had contacts in the Interpol. This was never followed through...)
2: Subaru Okiya is Bourbon and Akai
- Subaru Okiya is not only Akai in disguise, he's also undercover in the BO as Bourbon. Wouldn't that be a shock.
