S.H: You said you wanted ONE, here´s a Lateral Thinking which conteins 10 parts!!!
Enjoy!
Honestants and Swindlecants I
There are two kinds of people on a mysterious island. There are so-called Honestants who speak always the truth, and the others are Swindlecants who always lie.
Three fellows (A, B and C) are having a quarrel at the market. A gringo goes by and asks the A fellow: "Are you an Honestant or a Swindlecant?" The answer is incomprehensible so the gringo asks B: "What did A say?" B answers: "A said that he is a Swindlecant." And to that says the fellow C: "Do not believe B, he is lying!"
Who is B and C?
Honestants and Swindlecants II
Afterwards he meets another two aborigines. One says: "I am a Swindlecant or the other one is an Honestant."
Who are they?
Honestants and Swindlecants III
Our gringo displeased the sovereign with his intrusive questions and was condemned to death. But there was also a chance to save himself by solving the following logic problem. The gringo was shown two doors - one leading to a scaffold and the second one to freedom (both doors were the same) and only the door guards knew what was behind the doors. The sovereign let the gringo put one question to one guard. And because the sovereign was an honest man he warned that one guard is a Swindlecant.
What question can save the gringo's life?
Honestants and Swindlecants IV
Our gringo was lucky and survived. On his way to the pub he met three aborigines. One made this statement: "We are all Swindlecants." The second one concluded: "[/i]Just one of us is an honest man."
Who are they?
Honestants and Swindlecants V
In the pub the gringo met a funny guy who said: "If my wife is an Honestant, then I am Swindlecant."
Who is this couple?
Honestants and Swindlecants VI
When the gringo wanted to pay and leave the pub, the bartender told him how much his drink costed. It was quite expensive, so he asked the bartender if he spoke the truth. But the gringo did not hear the whispered answer so he asked a man sitting next to him about it. And the man said: "The bartender said yes, but he is a big liar."
Who are they?
Honestants and Swindlecants VII
Going out of the pub, the gringo heard about a fantastic buried treasure. He wanted to be sure so he asked another man who replied:
"On this island is a treasure, only if I am an honest man."
So shall he go and find the treasure?
Honestants and Swindlecants VIII
Thinking about the treasure, the gringo forgot what day it was, so he asked four aborigines and got these answers
A: Yesterday was Wednesday.
B: Tomorrow will be Sunday.
C: Today is Friday.
D: The day before yesterday was Thursday.
Because everything you need to know is how many people lied, I will not tell. What day of the week was it?
Honestants and Swindlecants IX
After a hard day the gringo wanted some time to relax. But a few minutes later two aborigines wanted to talk to him. To make things clear, the gringo asked: "Is at least one of you an honestant?" After the answer, there was no doubt.
Who are they and who answered?
Honestants and Swindlecants X
There was a girl on this island, and everybody wanted her. However, she wanted just a rich swindlecant. If you were a rich swindlecant, how would you convince her saying only one sentence? And what if she wanted a rich honestant (and if you were one). Let us assume for this logic problem that there are only rich or poor people on the island.
Now, this should be fun to see.
Last edited by Holmes on June 25th, 2009, 2:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
So, here are some of my answers... I'll post the other ones later (after I solve them ).... for simplicity, I'll use S for Swindlecants and H for Honestants... If my answers are correct, I'll post how I got them...
Spoiler:
II - They are both H
III - Which door will the other guard say is the right one?
IV - The first one that talked and the one who didn't are S, the other one is H
V - They are both S
VI - The man is H and the bartender is S
VII - Go and get the treasure
Thinking about the treasure, the gringo forgot what day it was, so he asked four aborigines and got these answers
A: Yesterday was Wednesday.
B: Tomorrow will be Sunday.
C: Today is Friday.
D: The day before yesterday was Thursday.
Because everything you need to know is how many people lied, I will not tell. What day of the week was it?
There's not enough info here:
Spoiler:
A says that it's Thursday
B says that it's Saturday
C says that it's Friday
D says that it's Saturday
Here are the possible answers:
If they are all Swindlecants, then it could be Sunday, Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday
It's not possible for just one to be a Swindlecant
If there are two Swindlecants, then it's Saturday
If there are three Swindlecants, then it's either Thursday or Friday
It's not possible for all four to be Swindlecants
Holmes wrote:
S.H: You said you wanted ONE, here´s a Lateral Thinking which conteins 10 parts!!!
Enjoy!
Honestants and Swindlecants I
There are two kinds of people on a mysterious island. There are so-called Honestants who speak always the truth, and the others are Swindlecants who always lie.
Three fellows (A, B and C) are having a quarrel at the market. A gringo goes by and asks the A fellow: "Are you an Honestant or a Swindlecant?" The answer is incomprehensible so the gringo asks B: "What did A say?" B answers: "A said that he is a Swindlecant." And to that says the fellow C: "Do not believe B, he is lying!"
Who is B and C?
Spoiler:
ok if A is H he will say he is H. if he is S he will say he is H.
so be answer is a lie and c is telling the truth . That makes B an S and C an H
Honestants and Swindlecants II
Afterwards he meets another two aborigines. One says: "I am a Swindlecant or the other one is an Honestant."
Who are they?
Spoiler:
See above. It is not possible for one to say he is an S
so these are the possibles
A is talking
A and B Are H
Not Possible
A and B could be S
if A is an S and B an H
if A is an H and B an S
Honestants and Swindlecants III
Our gringo displeased the sovereign with his intrusive questions and was condemned to death. But there was also a chance to save himself by solving the following logic problem. The gringo was shown two doors - one leading to a scaffold and the second one to freedom (both doors were the same) and only the door guards knew what was behind the doors. The sovereign let the gringo put one question to one guard. And because the sovereign was an honest man he warned that one guard is a Swindlecant.
What question can save the gringo's life?
Spoiler:
The famous question: What door would the other guard chose if he were me
Explanation Later
Honestants and Swindlecants IV
Our gringo was lucky and survived. On his way to the pub he met three aborigines. One made this statement: "We are all Swindlecants." The second one concluded: "[/i]Just one of us is an honest man."
Who are they?
Spoiler:
See One. It is not possible for any to say there are S so we know we have at least 1S. We also know we do not have either 3S or 3H
that leaves 1S and 2H or 2S and 1H
The second statement if false means we have either 3S or 2H. But it being a lie means 2H is not possible. So that statement is true
So thery are 2S and 1H
Honestants and Swindlecants V
In the pub the gringo met a funny guy who said: "If my wife is an Honestant, then I am Swindlecant."
Who is this couple?
Spoiler:
Again see One. One can not say they are an S.
Both S(Possible (as the wife is not an H))
Both H(Not Possible)
Wife S They H(as Wife is an S and not an H the statement is still true)
Wife H they S(Not Possible)
So Wife is an S
Spoiler:
looking at others answers show the truth
Wife S They H
Honestants and Swindlecants VI
When the gringo wanted to pay and leave the pub, the bartender told him how much his drink costed. It was quite expensive, so he asked the bartender if he spoke the truth. But the gringo did not hear the whispered answer so he asked a man sitting next to him about it. And the man said: "The bartender said yes, but he is a big liar."
Who are they?
Honestants and Swindlecants VII
Going out of the pub, the gringo heard about a fantastic buried treasure. He wanted to be sure so he asked another man who replied:
"On this island is a treasure, only if I am an honest man."
So shall he go and find the treasure?
Spoiler:
funny thing about that statement
if an S then there would be treasure
if H there would treasure
so either way there is!
Honestants and Swindlecants VIII
Thinking about the treasure, the gringo forgot what day it was, so he asked four aborigines and got these answers
A: Yesterday was Wednesday.
B: Tomorrow will be Sunday.
C: Today is Friday.
D: The day before yesterday was Thursday.
Because everything you need to know is how many people lied, I will not tell. What day of the week was it?
Spoiler:
c-square wrote:
Holmes wrote:
Honestants and Swindlecants VIII
Thinking about the treasure, the gringo forgot what day it was, so he asked four aborigines and got these answers
A: Yesterday was Wednesday.
B: Tomorrow will be Sunday.
C: Today is Friday.
D: The day before yesterday was Thursday.
Because everything you need to know is how many people lied, I will not tell. What day of the week was it?
There's not enough info here:
Spoiler:
A says that it's Thursday
B says that it's Saturday
C says that it's Friday
D says that it's Saturday
Here are the possible answers:
If they are all Swindlecants, then it would be Sunday, Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday
It's not possible for just one to be a Swindlecant
If there are two Swindlecants, then it's Saturday
If there are three Swindlecants, then it's either Thursday or Friday
It's not possible for all four to be Honestants (agreed)
We need more info to solve this!
Just had a funny thought about this. What if the question was asked at 11:59p and the last answer was at like 12:02a.
So my question is what time was this question asked?
Honestants and Swindlecants IX
After a hard day the gringo wanted some time to relax. But a few minutes later two aborigines wanted to talk to him. To make things clear, the gringo asked: "Is at least one of you an honestant?" After the answer, there was no doubt.
Who are they and who answered?
Spoiler:
if A is S and B is H then if A is asked they answer No,if B is asked They answer Yes
if both A and B are H they answer Yes
if both A and B are S they answer Yes
Since the answer is know by the answer. They said No and that one is the S. The other is an H
Honestants and Swindlecants X
There was a girl on this island, and everybody wanted her. However, she wanted just a rich swindlecant. If you were a rich swindlecant, how would you convince her saying only one sentence? And what if she wanted a rich honestant (and if you were one). Let us assume for this logic problem that there are only rich or poor people on the island.
Now, this should be fun to see.
Last edited by sstimson on June 25th, 2009, 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I : A and C are H, B is S.
III Which door will the other guard say is the door to freedom?
V The wife is an S, he is an H.
VII Go and find it.
IX The one who answered is an S, he said no. The other man is an H.
still working out the others. i think i won't have dinner till i solve all - this is amazing, holmes. ^^
EDIT: First time I noticed, I only got the odd numbers Anyway here are the even numbers:
Spoiler:
II The one talking is H, the other one is S.
IV There are 2 S, 1 H. The first one who spoke was S, the second the H.
VI The barman is S, the man is an H.
VIII I agree with c-square - there isn't enough to work on.
I'll try X again when I have time.
Last edited by Anonymous on June 26th, 2009, 5:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
No amount of apologies will express how much I regret it.
Haha... S and H, my username
Failed to check the forums earlier due to fever(until now)....Yeah, Holmes, you ruined my rest.(joke )
I see that there's only X left..
Spoiler:
Honestants and Swindlecants X
A.)I'm a poor Swindlecant.
B.)I'm not a poor Honestant.
Below are what I would consider "cheating"..
By using "and" to combine two sentences:
A.)I'm poor and not everyone wants you(the girl).
B.)I'm rich and everyone wants you(the girl).
By repeating:
A.)I'm poor, only if I'm rich.
B.)I'm rich, only if I'm rich.
*
).... for simplicity, I'll use S for Swindlecants and H for Honestants... If my answers are correct, I'll post how I got them...
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