252 Rescue Case (753-755): Vote for the solution!

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Where is the confined person located?

Imprisoned in a room/closet/elevator
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12%
Sealed into a wall/column
14
41%
Trapped in a duct
0
No votes
Within the staircase
2
6%
Under the ground floor
0
No votes
Trapped in a space between floors/ceilings
2
6%
On the roof
0
No votes
Restrained and disguised as or in an object (ex trashcan)
3
9%
In an elevator shaft (if there is one)
1
3%
Secret room/cubbyhole
5
15%
Duct-taped to the ceiling
0
No votes
Somewhere else (please explain)
0
No votes
A combination of some of the above (please explain)
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No votes
Nobody is trapped
3
9%
 
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Conan324 wrote: about okiya thing, remember that he is an engineer, he may have figured about it  by its shape maybe???



btw im OkiyaxAkai supporter.
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Well, I guess Subaru has now seen Conan without his glasses. More evidence for him to say Conan is Shinichi.  ;)

Can I also note that I enjoyed how Gosho included the insignificant detail of having different ringtones for each of the DB.
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Schillok wrote: First: The children "trapped" in the building.
When the DB (excluding Conan) noticed the shutters were closed - why did they not just open a window? They look like the sliding ones, and even in case they could not be opened they could have just tried to break it. The sound might have attracted the kidnappers, but they were on their heels at that time anyway. Plus, it had the chance of attracting help from the outside...
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Dus wrote: And why didn't they just text the police or anything?
*shrugs* I don't know... they clearly have a phone in their hands, but apparently being freaked out is more fun :P
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Dus wrote: And why didn't they just text the police or anything?
Texting the police would be the same as calling the police...  There would be police officers and/or sirens...  If they took the kidnappers' threat seriously enough that they wouldn't call the police, they wouldn't text them either.

I was going to write something about "How the hell do you text the police" but then remembered that Mitsuhiko had at least Satou's mobile phone number (since he offered it to Shiratori that one time)...
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Abs. wrote:
Dus wrote: And why didn't they just text the police or anything?
Texting the police would be the same as calling the police...  There would be police officers and/or sirens...  If they took the kidnappers' threat seriously enough that they wouldn't call the police, they wouldn't text them either.

I was going to write something about "How the hell do you text the police" but then remembered that Mitsuhiko had at least Satou's mobile phone number (since he offered it to Shiratori that one time)...
Informing Satou about the situation still beats their plan: Hiding in a locker.
And iirc, if you text something to a landline, it will be read out. Anyway, I'm fairly sure there are ways to text the police, because there are a number of emergencies where you couldn't speak up.
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Abs. wrote:
Schillok wrote: First: The children "trapped" in the building.
When the DB (excluding Conan) noticed the shutters were closed - why did they not just open a window? They look like the sliding ones, and even in case they could not be opened they could have just tried to break it. The sound might have attracted the kidnappers, but they were on their heels at that time anyway. Plus, it had the chance of attracting help from the outside...
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I'm pretty sure a building has more than one side thou :p
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Mr_Useless wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Schillok wrote: First: The children "trapped" in the building.
When the DB (excluding Conan) noticed the shutters were closed - why did they not just open a window? They look like the sliding ones, and even in case they could not be opened they could have just tried to break it. The sound might have attracted the kidnappers, but they were on their heels at that time anyway. Plus, it had the chance of attracting help from the outside...
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I'm pretty sure a building has more than one side thou :p
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Abs. wrote:
Schillok wrote: First: The children "trapped" in the building.
When the DB (excluding Conan) noticed the shutters were closed - why did they not just open a window? They look like the sliding ones, and even in case they could not be opened they could have just tried to break it. The sound might have attracted the kidnappers, but they were on their heels at that time anyway. Plus, it had the chance of attracting help from the outside...
Check it out:
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Of course I checked beforehand to make sure I didn't tell nonsense. The page showing the windows was in chapter 2:
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XD why are there even windows there? To look straight at the side of the next building? XD

At any rate I suppose the DB can't be trusted to break a window and climb out by themselves without getting hurt... Even with Haibara present

Or. Uh. Look over there!
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This case would've been solved faster if Conan wouldn't have stayed there, explaining how there was obviously a third person there being held captive.  They should've left and then they would've been able to call the police as opposed to getting overheard and caught by the two kidnappers.  I don't usually say this regarding the series, but that was such a stupid move on both Conan and Ai's parts.  They should've gotten the DBs out and then discussed their theories.  Of course, if they hadn't, the case wouldn't have been as interesting and of course, that certain someone showing up wouldn't have shown up, so that's a plus. ^_^
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ssjup81 wrote: This case would've been solved faster if Conan wouldn't have stayed there, explaining how there was obviously a third person there being held captive.  They should've left and then they would've been able to call the police as opposed to getting overheard and caught by the two kidnappers.  I don't usually say this regarding the series, but that was such a stupid move on both Conan and Ai's parts.  They should've gotten the DBs out and then discussed their theories.  Of course, if they hadn't, the case wouldn't have been as interesting and of course, that certain someone showing up wouldn't have shown up, so that's a plus. ^_^
Yea, I felt that was pointless too. Like all he had to do was text Detective Takagi or call him real quick. And instead of Ai making a plan to hide, she should've made a plan to find a way to call the police. For instance, tell the DBoys to hide and text Takagi or someone they knew, even if it wasn't the police. They could've text anyone for help who would call the police. They probably were afraid of calling the police and afraid their friends would be killed if they did. But they could've explained that situation to the police, especially if Haibara had commanded them to do so. Instead she made a dumb plan that ended up backfiring. And Conan was dumber than normal too.

It was just as bad as the last case. Then again, what would I have done in that situation?
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soratothamax wrote:
ssjup81 wrote: This case would've been solved faster if Conan wouldn't have stayed there, explaining how there was obviously a third person there being held captive.  They should've left and then they would've been able to call the police as opposed to getting overheard and caught by the two kidnappers.  I don't usually say this regarding the series, but that was such a stupid move on both Conan and Ai's parts.  They should've gotten the DBs out and then discussed their theories.  Of course, if they hadn't, the case wouldn't have been as interesting and of course, that certain someone showing up wouldn't have shown up, so that's a plus. ^_^
Yea, I felt that was pointless too. Like all he had to do was text Detective Takagi or call him real quick. And instead of Ai making a plan to hide, she should've made a plan to find a way to call the police. For instance, tell the DBoys to hide and text Takagi or someone they knew, even if it wasn't the police. They could've text anyone for help who would call the police. They probably were afraid of calling the police and afraid their friends would be killed if they did. But they could've explained that situation to the police, especially if Haibara had commanded them to do so. Instead she made a dumb plan that ended up backfiring. And Conan was dumber than normal too.

It was just as bad as the last case. Then again, what would I have done in that situation?
I agree with you, there were many stupid things in this chapter...
Maybe this case was just an excuse to see Okiya(after 1 year without seeing him :o)
in my opinion this case wasn't that bad,because:
- it wasn't a traditional murder with 3 suspects ::)
- some moments were funny (Haibara acting like a little girl,Conan kicking himself with the ball  ;D)
- Okiya finally appears :) and now that he saw Conan without glasses,he can easily find that Conan=Shinichi  ;)

so I think this case was better than many recent cases(better than London serie which was boring for me  ::))
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AICHAN wrote:
soratothamax wrote:
ssjup81 wrote: This case would've been solved faster if Conan wouldn't have stayed there, explaining how there was obviously a third person there being held captive.  They should've left and then they would've been able to call the police as opposed to getting overheard and caught by the two kidnappers.  I don't usually say this regarding the series, but that was such a stupid move on both Conan and Ai's parts.  They should've gotten the DBs out and then discussed their theories.  Of course, if they hadn't, the case wouldn't have been as interesting and of course, that certain someone showing up wouldn't have shown up, so that's a plus. ^_^
Yea, I felt that was pointless too. Like all he had to do was text Detective Takagi or call him real quick. And instead of Ai making a plan to hide, she should've made a plan to find a way to call the police. For instance, tell the DBoys to hide and text Takagi or someone they knew, even if it wasn't the police. They could've text anyone for help who would call the police. They probably were afraid of calling the police and afraid their friends would be killed if they did. But they could've explained that situation to the police, especially if Haibara had commanded them to do so. Instead she made a dumb plan that ended up backfiring. And Conan was dumber than normal too.

It was just as bad as the last case. Then again, what would I have done in that situation?
I agree with you, there were many stupid things in this chapter...
Maybe this case was just an excuse to see Okiya(after 1 year without seeing him :o)
in my opinion this case wasn't that bad,because:
- it wasn't a traditional murder with 3 suspects ::)
- some moments were funny (Haibara acting like a little girl,Conan kicking himself with the ball  ;D)
- Okiya finally appears :) and now that he saw Conan without glasses,he can easily find that Conan=Shinichi  ;)

so I think this case was better than many recent cases(better than London serie which was boring for me  ::))
True, true. It wasn't as bad. There were funny moments, and it wasn't the repetitive 3 murders one suspect thing. And more Okiya. I hope to see more of him from now on. I'm putting my foot down.

And hey, who would've guessed Agasa was the old man trapped in the locker?  ;D

London Case was horrifying. How can you pass that off as a legit case? London should have been way better than that.
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soratothamax wrote: And hey, who would've guessed Agasa was the old man trapped in the locker? XD
Half the SD forum ;)
soratothamax wrote: London Case was horrifying. How can you pass that off as a legit case? London should have been way better than that.
The London case was fine. Deciphering Hades' code was a lot of fun and was one a few written codes that did not involve mind munching Japenese wordplay. It was also pretty clever. I know you don't like ShinRan, but don't knock a good mystery for only that reason.
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