Would the Bourbon arc even bring a shock factor to all fans?

[JohnTitor]

Bah...

I'm not expecting much now, but I just want to see if the last European London case really has significant effects into the Bourbon Arc or really was just for some plain confession.

[Introuble]

Okay, I overreacted, I shouldn't have used the word disaster maybe something like disappointed would have been better. And, I'm still worried about this arc but with all the optimistic feelings out here, I feel a lot better now. Especially because of Abs, who kind of reminded me of something I forgot a while back. I may be disappointed about the whole "Bourbon identity" thing but I do have high expectations of how things are going to unfold. "I want to see what happens as a result of who Okiya/Bourbon is.". I've always had high expectations about this, but I completely about it. I can't wait to see how this Arc goes but as for the shock factor, not so much. And to be honest, before reading any forum post, I did think that Akai was dead and that there was no other way that his death would've been faked. Can't wait for the big clash, it's gonna be great!

Replaced the poll with a more fitting question.

[Cider]

Well I somehow trust Gosho.
Things may turn out the way Chekhov or any of us could ever expect.

[Introuble]

Yeah, the London case fueled my expectations a bit. It was a great, not super great, but better than the NY case.  :P

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Well I somehow trust Gosho.
Things may turn out the way Chekhov or any of us could ever expect.

I just want to put out there that if someone's expectations depend on the forumer people not seeing something coming, there is a good chance that person will be disappointed. DCTP has become very very good, collectively we are 80-90% for cases not involving japanese wordplay.

[Dashin]

Isn't there the possibility of the arc just meeting someone's expectations? Cause that's what I would have voted. I usually don't have "expectations". I just enjoy what comes. In the meantime, I focus my attention on other stuff.

[Hazuki]

Hmm. But Aoyama-sensei might introduce once again another Eisuke-like character in setting up an arc that would connect to Bourbon which would then lead us again to some confusions so I guess I still have some expectations on where this future arc would lead to. Then again, if I'd simply consider the chances that Okiya = Akai or Okiya = Bourbon, I would be highly disappointed if that really would be the case since I think he's an entirely different character.

Also, if Haibara would be heavily involved (which I think should be expected), I'll be anticipating how she'd be able to escape under Bourbon's radar.

Actually, I suspect Okiya might be a similar Eisuke character for Bourbon, which in this case, the one who would lead us to who really Bourbon is (which explains my belief that Okiya is definitely not Akai or Bourbon).

okay, did I make sense just now,,..?

[PT]

Noted. But if Okiya is just Okiya and has nothing to do with Bourbon, why would he be important to the 'Bourbon Arc' unless just as a Red Herring?

Okiya is important to the Bourbon arc at this point in time because we don't know how he fits into all of this. He could be Akai, he could be Bourbon, or he could simply be Okiya the Red Herring, for all we know.

Like Abs. said, I'm more interested in finding out how his identity (whatever it may be) is going to be revealed and the repercussions from that. Even if it turns out that Okiya is just Okiya, there's gonna be something that comes from that.

[blurfbreg]

Noted. But if Okiya is just Okiya and has nothing to do with Bourbon, why would he be important to the 'Bourbon Arc' unless just as a Red Herring?

Okiya is important to the Bourbon arc at this point in time because we don't know how he fits into all of this. He could be Akai, he could be Bourbon, or he could simply be Okiya the Red Herring, for all we know.

I'd like to add that Okiya could be someone related to Akai and/or Bourbon. Similar examples include Araide and Camel.

Like Abs. said, I'm more interested in finding out how his identity (whatever it may be) is going to be revealed and the repercussions from that. Even if it turns out that Okiya is just Okiya, there's gonna be something that comes from that.

+1

[Khellendos]

Agreed. Also, we have no idea how Okiya/Bourbon's identity will be revealed. Depending on how things go, this could easily have major impacts. If we assume Okiya=Akai, I can already think of ways Gosho could use the revelations (ex Kir getting in trouble, Haibara finally meeting Akai, etc). No matter how 'easy' it may feel to guess their identities, this arc is still going to have one hell of an end.

Besides, I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but to me it feels like Bourbon has barely made a move. The Red Shirts case seemed like a way to "test the waters" before diving in. When he/she does I'm sure less people will think this arc is a "disaster."

Precisely my idea. Even though I'm sure we've deduced the proper result, (mostly through Chekhov's hard work) the community doesn't have any clues on how Gosho will introduce the announcement (if he ever does.) Either way, we will still read/watch the outcome and enjoy it; even if we disapprover's of the authors' decision.  

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[caribou]

yeah, I would agree that the forum has made the mystery-solving easier (a lot of people here are really smart/observant o_o)... i should try staying away from the forum for a while and compare my reading experience. xD but it's also fun to speculate and guess with everyone. :/

I'm still hoping for a surprise with the Okiya/Bourbon/Akai thing but even if I'm not surprised, I agree with Abs... i just want things to HAPPEN, dammit!! Dx it almost feels like everyone in the BO went on holiday or something.

[CaseClosed101]

I'm still hoping for a surprise with the Okiya/Bourbon/Akai thing but even if I'm not surprised, I agree with Abs... i just want things to HAPPEN, dammit!! Dx it almost feels like everyone in the BO went on holiday or something.

Happening, huh? Can't help but agree. I mean, everything is laid out, and all, but Gosho has to go and dump the 2-5-2 case and the Following Holmes case and all. I mean, C'mon! We're WAITING for, like, an ENTERNITY here, Gosho!

I think the word "Duh" would be appropiate here.

[eworm]

Well, for me it's quite obvious the Bourbon arc will start to resolve in file 800, duh. Of course I can be wrong, but it's very probable, isn't it? Of course it's possible Gosho needs to slowly put more and more little hints in other side-cases and because of this massive number of side-cases we'll have to wait even longer than that. Hope not, though.

And as for Bourbon arc? I think it will be as great as Gosho's usual big resolves. It's not only important what will happen and who is who, but also - how is Gosho going to present it. Dedaction (it's on purpose, I mean deduction and action mixed), old characters' sudden comebacks - personally I hope for Eisuke (not gonna happen) and Yuusaku (not gonna happen) - and all those other things we all love!

I really hope Shuuichi is DEAD. Permanently. Don't misunderstand. I like him a lot. And still... Well, I guess he's alive, so nevermind.

[Kor]

Well, for me it's quite obvious the Bourbon arc will start to resolve in file 800, duh.

I guess the same, sadly. Because then it's like a year then until the conclusion. I start to believe that my guess of Gosho trying to end the series in the twenty years anniversary might happen. Which means 2014  . It's either this or file 1000 

[Eve]

Nahh, as I have learned: "Never expect much from Gosho at this point on "