New to Detective Conan.

[kkslider5552000]

*still thinks that people who want to follow only the arcs and important story stuff should find a different anime*

[Anokata55]

Hey!
I've been a long time observer on this site (months actually) and this is the first time I've actually posted anything. When I started Detective Conan, I had the same problem, and found this website extremely useful. It's very exentive, but it beats watching all 500+ episodes, unless you really really wanted to...

http://members.shaw.ca/makimura/DCN/EPS/DCNCRITEP.html

I hope this helps

[Deltath]

Here is my suggestion...

Quite a mouthful and very informative!  I'm really not sure exactly what I'll end up doing, but I feel more confident about the available options.  On the one hand, I'd probably enjoy reading every chapter of the manga and seeing every episode of the anime, however.. I also recognize the fact that it's unlikely I'd even be able to get my hands on every chapter/episode.  Well, at least the anime.  I know there's a whole ton of it not yet released here on DVD and a bunch that has never been subbed.  So if the manga is more accessible, it could be a better choice in that regard, so as not to miss out on any of the story.

As of this posting, I've checked out the first twenty or so episodes and the first few volumes of the manga, so that's a start.

*still thinks that people who want to follow only the arcs and important story stuff should find a different anime*

Honestly, the sheer size of it is why I shied away from it for several years, but when I heard about the upcoming (well, upcoming at the time) Lupin vs. Conan special, it sparked a resurgence of desire to get back into the series.  I'm a Lupin fan and I liked what I've seen/read of Detective Conan, which is how I found this site in the first place.

It's a lengthy, lengthy series.  Though I suppose there's no rush to catch up quickly, so I guess I'll just see what happens in my free time.  I imagine. though, there are some people out there who really enjoy the characters and feel of the series, but don't have the time to down 530+ episodes (not to mention the movies and OVAs) of anything, let alone just one series.

Anyway, thanks to all who commented in the thread.  I really do appreciate it!

[kkslider5552000]

It's a lengthy, lengthy series.  Though I suppose there's no rush to catch up quickly, so I guess I'll just see what happens in my free time.  I imagine. though, there are some people out there who really enjoy the characters and feel of the series, but don't have the time to down 530+ episodes (not to mention the movies and OVAs) of anything, let alone just one series.

first of all, I'm glad someone actually acknowedges the existence of "free time".

Second of all, while I do believe what I said, I also think that ignoring the anime originals is definitely a good idea. There are only 3 anime originals that actually are relevent to the plot (6, 128 and I think the recently redone 276, and the second one of those only exists because they screwed up episode 13). There is a list of the manga based episodes, which should help. http://www.dctp.ws/DC_Subbed_List.pdf

You see, after rewatching the series so far a second time, it became pretty obvious why I quickly became obsessed with this series. While the anime originals might ruin some of it's greatness if you watch all of those (which is again, why I suggest not to do that), if you don't (or read the manga =P), you will see how great Gosho's pace is. (I am not that smart, I am sorry if I misspelled or misused the word pace) It has a very slow pace where most cases (outside of the first few, which are very important) end up seeming pointless at first, but either become important later, or are at least referenced in a way that fits logically and can sometimes even be humorous (and continuity is pretty awesome). It also shows some very slow character development, that is done very well, that characters are different than they were when they were introduced, yet it never feels absurd or even annoying.

[Deltath]

Second of all, while I do believe what I said, I also think that ignoring the anime originals is definitely a good idea. There are only 3 anime originals that actually are relevent to the plot (6, 128 and I think the recently redone 276, and the second one of those only exists because they screwed up episode 13). There is a list of the manga based episodes, which should help. http://www.dctp.ws/DC_Subbed_List.pdf

Hmm.  That's something I hadn't really given much thought to; the anime originals.  Just out of curiosity, to everyone else reading this, how do you feel about the anime originals?  Are they worth watching or better off skipped?

(Also, thanks for the list, kslider)

[Rellik]

Second of all, while I do believe what I said, I also think that ignoring the anime originals is definitely a good idea. There are only 3 anime originals that actually are relevent to the plot (6, 128 and I think the recently redone 276, and the second one of those only exists because they screwed up episode 13). There is a list of the manga based episodes, which should help. http://www.dctp.ws/DC_Subbed_List.pdf

Hmm.  That's something I hadn't really given much thought to; the anime originals.  Just out of curiosity, to everyone else reading this, how do you feel about the anime originals?  Are they worth watching or better off skipped?

(Also, thanks for the list, kslider)

i don't mind watching anime originals, some are actually pretty good, like Ran's Love Letter or something Belkin Garden whatever (about '2 old ppl'  moving into a house near the detective agency)

and because of the style and theme of DC, it isn't like those boring filler cr@p you get from naruto or bleach or watever else (and definitely not take up like 20 episodes!).

but the problem is that most of the anime originals are left unsubbed so theres only a small handful u can watch anyways. 

[kkslider5552000]

Second of all, while I do believe what I said, I also think that ignoring the anime originals is definitely a good idea. There are only 3 anime originals that actually are relevent to the plot (6, 128 and I think the recently redone 276, and the second one of those only exists because they screwed up episode 13). There is a list of the manga based episodes, which should help. http://www.dctp.ws/DC_Subbed_List.pdf

Hmm.  That's something I hadn't really given much thought to; the anime originals.  Just out of curiosity, to everyone else reading this, how do you feel about the anime originals?  Are they worth watching or better off skipped?

(Also, thanks for the list, kslider)

you're welcome. 

I can suggest a few of the better anime originals, but considering that the manga cases alone still equals like...300+ episodes (and about 10 to 20 of those are 1 or 2 hour specials), it might not be a good idea. From what I've seen (a few of the newer ones and all of them before episode 200), a few of the anime originals are good (maybe even great), some of them are ok at best and some of them are bad or even terrible.

[vic1337]

I should probably explain what I meant earlier... The anime cuts out pertinent story information that leaves plot holes. I don't wish this upon anyone, so watching the anime first is very unwise.

I'm sure you figured out the plot hole of Conan magically learning Gin and Vodka's names >_>...

To fix that, please read http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/33/01/ That case. Really its the only way... The anime screwed up bigtime there.

I am now at episode 230 in the anime (I see all the episodes except fillers but I don’t read the manga)
Actually i love the anime but i thought it was a perfect adaptation i can't believe what you are explaining (and yes i realize the gin and vodka error =( ) but now i read the first 20 volumes of the manga and it was the same as the anime EXCEPT the error with gin and vodka and skipping haibara sister incident (they fixed this then) but i see the adaptation from the manga is amazing but i'm worry to miss something essential like the error with the names =(

After the two errors mentioned above
Is real that the anime leave pertinent story information that creates plot holes?   

One thing i forget is that the anime also add amazing things like en chapter 219 they added a full chapter adapting content from the manga magic kaito and a great case between shinichi and kid, it was excellent to introduce the gathering detectives case.
No to mention that all the movies (anime originals) are really INCREDIBLES.

http://www.geocities.com/miyanosama/Plo ... mary02.htm

are the episodes written here are the episodes needed to catch-up to the story w/out 500+ of it?
I'll follow this to watch detective conan if this is part of the story-arc.....

thanks in advance

That list leaves away so many EPIC EPISODES not to mention he skip al related with kid and a lot of episodes that have ESSENTIAL character development I don’t recommend it =(

This list is the best list of essential epissodes :

http://members.shaw.ca/makimura/DCN/EPS/DCNCRITEP.html

I can suggest a few of the better anime originals

Can you say which are they? i skipped all the anime originals except from episode 128

[kyuuketsuki]

I should probably explain what I meant earlier... The anime cuts out pertinent story information that leaves plot holes. I don't wish this upon anyone, so watching the anime first is very unwise.

I'm sure you figured out the plot hole of Conan magically learning Gin and Vodka's names >_>...

To fix that, please read http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/33/01/ That case. Really its the only way... The anime screwed up bigtime there.

I am now at episode 230 in the anime (I see all the episodes except fillers but I don’t read the manga)
Actually i love the anime but i thought it was a perfect adaptation i can't believe what you are explaining (and yes i realize the gin and vodka error =( ) but now i read the first 20 volumes of the manga and it was the same as the anime EXCEPT the error with gin and vodka and skipping haibara sister incident (they fixed this then) but i see the adaptation from the manga is amazing but i'm worry to miss something essential like the error with the names =(

After the two errors mentioned above
Is real that the anime leave pertinent story information that creates plot holes?   

One thing i forget is that the anime also add amazing things like en chapter 219 they added a full chapter adapting content from the manga magic kaito and a great case between shinichi and kid, it was excellent to introduce the gathering detectives case.

http://www.geocities.com/miyanosama/Plo ... mary02.htm

are the episodes written here are the episodes needed to catch-up to the story w/out 500+ of it?
I'll follow this to watch detective conan if this is part of the story-arc.....

thanks in advance

That list leaves away so many EPIC EPISODES not to mention he skip al related with kid and a lot of episodes that have ESSENTIAL character development I don’t recommend it =(

This list is the best list of essential epissodes :

http://members.shaw.ca/makimura/DCN/EPS/DCNCRITEP.html

I can suggest a few of the better anime originals

Can you say which are they? i skipped all the anime originals except from episode 128

Just a few notes:

1) Yes, other than those two things... there is apparently nothing else. But, the anime is not a 1-1 adaptation with the manga, they are just about caught up in the story related as far as we know. But... here is the thing... Gosho is a smart man, he may find ways to tie in seemingly nonstory related cases from the manga into the BO story line that will screw up the anime even more. In general? Yes, it is a great adaptation AFTER 129 (I did mention that episode in my suggestion for a reason). But the TRUE story is still the manga, can't deny that.

2) That link from the 2nd quote is STORY RELATED ONLY. As awesome as many of those cases are from they link you gave, they are NOT ALL story related. Kaitou Kid, as far as we know is just a special character that has NO bearing on the BO. And Gosho has said his Organization and the BO are different... so unless he changes that... Those episodes, as awesome as they are have little to do with the story. Calling them "essential" is really a load of bull. Should one watch them? Yes... they are great cases, but don't give more credit to them than they are due by calling them "essential," because really, unless kaitou kid becomes involved with the end, or Two-Mix show up against the BO... and so on... You can miss all those eps and still have no problem with following the story related episodes.

Also, I should note that the kaitou kid case with the gathering detectives came AFTER the Detective Conan first introduction of Kaitou Kid to Conan. This created a paradox, because in Detective conan, he did not know who KK was, but if he met him as shinichi... I think you get the idea....

3) Yes there are many great AO cases, but they can be watched after one is caught up in the story. The story is most important

[vic1337]

Just a few notes:

1) Yes, other than those two things... there is apparently nothing else. But, the anime is not a 1-1 adaptation with the manga, they are just about caught up in the story related as far as we know. But... here is the thing... Gosho is a smart man, he may find ways to tie in seemingly nonstory related cases from the manga into the BO story line that will screw up the anime even more. In general? Yes, it is a great adaptation AFTER 129 (I did mention that episode in my suggestion for a reason). But the TRUE story is still the manga, can't deny that.

of course ALWAYS the true story is the manga but well a lot of people prefer to watch anime instead of manga and i think the conan anime made an excellent job in the adaptation (except the errors mentioned, what they did in episode 5 is really UNVELEIBABLE but well they didn' t repeat it.

2) That link from the 2nd quote is STORY RELATED ONLY. As awesome as many of those cases are from they link you gave, they are NOT ALL story related. Kaitou Kid, as far as we know is just a special character that has NO bearing on the BO. And Gosho has said his Organization and the BO are different... so unless he changes that... Those episodes, as awesome as they are have little to do with the story. Calling them "essential" is really a load of bull. Should one watch them? Yes... they are great cases, but don't give more credit to them than they are due by calling them "essential," because really, unless kaitou kid becomes involved with the end, or Two-Mix show up against the BO... and so on... You can miss all those eps and still have no problem with following the story related episodes.

Also, I should note that the kaitou kid case with the gathering detectives came AFTER the Detective Conan first introduction of Kaitou Kid to Conan. This created a paradox, because in Detective conan, he did not know who KK was, but if he met him as shinichi... I think you get the idea....

I'm agree but i think that are essential episodes because i think character development and epic episodes in all the animes ARE ESSENTIAL i am not talking about THE MAIN PLOT i am talking about the essential episodes TO KNOW EVERYHTING ABOUT THE ANIME YOU SUPPOSLY LIKE (for example you would never know about sonoko "boyfriend" if you see only the BO episodes and like that are a lot of examples) Also is not the same to see main plot episodes and being involved  a lot with the characters like someone who see one character only ten or 20 episodes (main plot) i really can't imagine he knows and loves the character the same than other one who see the same character in 200 episodes or more.
i think if someone only wants to see the arc episodes the best recommendation is what kkslider5552000 say

*still thinks that people who want to follow only the arcs and important story stuff should find a different anime*

btw in that case with kid in the anime shinichi couldn't see kid in any moment from the helicopter he was.

3) Yes there are many great AO cases, but they can be watched after one is caught up in the story. The story is most important

Of course the main story is more important but is not the same to see the main story with A LOT MORE of character development.

[kyuuketsuki]

Quick reply...

Still are giving more credit than worth. Yes there is character development, which is essential to understanding character motives, but I speak only of understanding the story. Think of watching the main arcs first as reading cliff notes for a test. This series is far too big to get caught up on if you try to watch all the episodes from start to finish, or even using that list as a guide you don't get the full brunt of it. So whats the point. Also, that's more of an allstar list of episodes they feel are important. Are the ones he chose important? Most of them, yes. Are all of them? no. If I had the time, I'd make a better list... but I don't...

Also... Kaitou Kid, again, so far as we know as of right now, will have nothing to do with the actual story, and no real mention of how those cases effected conan/shinichi has been made outside of kaitou kid episodes. So I fail to see character development there.

Also I have a personal qualm with the creator of that list for even suggesting that Okiya is Bourbon. That is completely conjecture at this point.

[vic1337]

Quick reply...

Still are giving more credit than worth. Yes there is character development, which is essential to understanding character motives, but I speak only of understanding the story. Think of watching the main arcs first as reading cliff notes for a test. This series is far too big to get caught up on if you try to watch all the episodes from start to finish, or even using that list as a guide you don't get the full brunt of it. So whats the point. Also, that's more of an allstar list of episodes they feel are important. Are the ones he chose important? Most of them, yes. Are all of them? no. If I had the time, I'd make a better list... but I don't...

Also... Kaitou Kid, again, so far as we know as of right now, will have nothing to do with the actual story, and no real mention of how those cases effected conan/shinichi has been made outside of kaitou kid episodes. So I fail to see character development there.

I understand your opinion and i respect it but my point only refers that someone who see most of the episodes will love and appreciate the story more than one who see only the main plot episodes if i have to see the main plot history without seen things so important like for example mmmm to know Conan parents i would not love so much the characters and the anime like now actually i don’t know even one person who saw ONLY the main plot that's why i prefer more the list i choose because it cover a lot of things that gives you a lo of information and relation between the characters.


It will be amazing to see another list of essential episodes but well you don’t want to do it XD, when I finished seeing the anime i will make one.

Also... Kaitou Kid, again, so far as we know as of right now, will have nothing to do with the actual story, and no real mention of how those cases effected conan/shinichi has been made outside of kaitou kid episodes. So I fail to see character development there.

Kaito kid for me is essential BUT NO BECAUSE IS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT OR WATHEVER because his cases are truly epic and gonzo is always VERY VERY smart in everything related with him also is amazing to see the fight within two master minds and their ideologys like kid think

Phantom thiefs are artists who creatively steal their targets but… detectives don’t amount to anything more than critics who look at the remains and try to find faults.

[Deltath]

Well, I think I've decided to just read/watch it all (skipping the anime-only episodes for now).  There's no express need to be caught up quickly and I wouldn't want to miss any of the more interesting cases or quality bits of character development.  Thank you all for your input.

[sunset1215]

well i have watched all the episodes of the anime.. and read all the chapters.. i didn't realise there was an error in epi 6,13 and 128.. probably because i didn't do both at the same time.. i just finished rewatching the series ytd.. maybe i'll read the manga all over again(reading and watching at the same time souds good too).. too much free time in my case..

anyway.. if you understand chinese, there's a chinese website.. http://www.tudou.com.. all the episodes are available.. even the ovas.. movie side storys.. and the movies are there too..

[soratothamax]

Have watched over 400 episodes and stopped and finished with the manga. That might work, because eventually, you might choose particular cases that you enjoy watching and you won't have to watch EVERY SINGLE episode. For instance, I enjoy BO cases, Detective Boys cases, anything with Haibara, Kaitou Kid, and occasionally Heiji. You'll be able to decipher your favorite episodes possibly from your favorite characters and what you want to see fro the series.