Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

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How will Shinichi/Conan return to Japan? (stolen from baka1412)

Illegal ways (Document Forgery, "back-routes", bribing the officers, hijacking the plane, etc)
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Using his connection with the FBI's to sneak him out of the country.
7
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Agasa miraculously creates a Teleportation machine.
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1%
Haibara send him another batch of antidote(s) (post/directly)
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Haibara entrusted back-up medicine to Jodie / Yukiko / FBI / she somehow got trustful friend out there (the mysterious lady on last file)
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22%
Extra Terrestrial creatures help.
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5%
He never returned to Japan again...
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He never returned to Conan again...
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6%
He swim all the way across to Japan by sea..
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4%
"Home Alone" reference; as a conan, he's tagging any unsuspecting adults during the last minutes before the plane take off, pretending to be their child.
5
4%
Asking for Japanese embassy help, hoping to get deported back to Japan..
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3%
He'd get help from that pro tennis player eventually (for solving the case).. I don't know how she would pull some string though...
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10%
Unexplainable Time Skip, the case finished, and we're suddenly back to Beika City the next day without explanation..
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14%
 
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I guess I wasn't the only one with that reaction. :P
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JohnTitor wrote:
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I just read the Chinese scanlations and... I just laughed. Laughed. Laughed so hard. This is so stupid, so "what-the-hell", and so... I mean, c'mon, man! Everyone's guesses turned out right! I just laughed. I just laughed seeing Hades was beaten up like one of the mini-villains in earlier DC chapters. Okay, I don't know what will happen next.
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Best part for me was when Minverva hit Hades with the ball and Conan finished him with his power-boots because I remember someone mentioned this scenario somewhere in this thread before and it sounded to ridiculous back then...
All in all the case was kind of lame.
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breva wrote:
Spoiler: File 752
I wonder what Shinichi told Ran... ???
Spoiler: File 752
He told her it's hard to read what's in the heart of the woman you love, and that love is 0, cause it's the beggining.

In the last page Shinichi remembers Yukiko telling him Ai contacted her by phone and encomended the extra pill to them, as it was predicted like... in the second page of this thread.

I don't think it was disastrous as a whole, but having to wait a whole week just for another few pages, and then, after last week's bland file, coming to this rushed and predictable conclusion wasn't the best Conan I've read.
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Since Ai-chan informed Yukiko to deliver an antidote to Conan, why don't Ai-chan inform Yukiko that Okiya is living in her real home. Will Yusaku and Yukiko return to Japan for a while, then will they meet Okiya in File 753, then Okiya Subaru's true identify will be clearer.
-Edited for spoilers by Chekhov. Remember your boxes!-
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Conan 48:69 wrote:
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Since Ai-chan informed Yukiko to deliver an antidote to Conan, why don't Ai-chan inform Yukiko that Okiya is living in her real home. Will Yusaku and Yukiko return to Japan for a while, then will they meet Okiya in File 753, then Okiya Subaru's true identify will be clearer.
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And yeah, I also think that while Conan & Agasa are in Europe, and Ai is staying at Ayumi's, so the professor's house is empty... Okiya might be bored and decided to do something fun, like, searching his neighbor's house.  ;D
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Conan 48:69 wrote:
Spoiler:
Since Ai-chan informed Yukiko to deliver an antidote to Conan, why don't Ai-chan inform Yukiko that Okiya is living in her real home. Will Yusaku and Yukiko return to Japan for a while, then will they meet Okiya in File 753, then Okiya Subaru's true identify will be clearer.
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How will his identity be clearer if Yukiko and Yusaku meet him?
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Conan 48:69 wrote: Since Ai-chan informed Yukiko to deliver an antidote to Conan, why don't Ai-chan inform Yukiko that Okiya is living in her real home. Will Yusaku and Yukiko return to Japan for a while, then will they meet Okiya in File 753, then Okiya Subaru's true identify will be clearer.
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How will his identity be clearer if Yukiko and Yusaku meet him?
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If we get lucky, we will have evidence Okiya never went anywhere, and it will break the only other decent theory Yuusaku=Okiya, leaving behind the simpler Okiya=Akai or Bourbon or third party options.
JohnTitor wrote: I just read the Chinese scanlations and... I just laughed. Laughed. Laughed so hard. This is so stupid, so "what-the-hell", and so... I mean, c'mon, man! Everyone's guesses turned out right! I just laughed. I just laughed seeing Hades was beaten up like one of the mini-villains in earlier DC chapters. Okay, I don't know what will happen next.
I wanna know Chekhov's reaction for this... resolution.
I'll wait for the translation, but I suppose it's pretty much like I predicted it would be. The real mystery was back with the riddle, this was just the followup. I don't blame Minerva for her first hit, but Conan's followup tennis ball takedown was a wee bit on the silly side as in "Conan's shoes have the power to increase the mass of projectiles". I'm also surprised Conan didn't realize mystery lady was Yukiko at first. Yukiko has done this already.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
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I'll wait for the translation, but I suppose it's pretty much like I predicted it would be. The real mystery was back with the riddle, this was just the followup. I don't blame Minerva for her first hit, but Conan's followup tennis ball takedown was a wee bit on the silly side as in "Conan's shoes have the power to increase the mass of projectiles". I'm also surprised Conan didn't realize mystery lady was Yukiko at first. Yukiko has done this already.
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Why are you saying the mass? It only increases the impulse. And I agree, Yukiko has been doing that since forever. The only reason why we weren't a 100% sure that was Yukiko was because it was too obvious.
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Dashin wrote: Why are you saying the mass? It only increases the impulse. And I agree, Yukiko has been doing that since forever. The only reason why we weren't a 100% sure that was Yukiko was because it was too obvious.
I said mass must have increased because I don't think it is humanly possible to kick a tennis ball with enough v to achieve the kinetic energy (0.5mv2) that was apparently transferred to Hades' face. His face was completely distorted and he was knocked senseless for an extended period of time. I understand getting stunned briefly, but drooling knocked out with a tennis ball? It would require inhuman speeds because a tennis ball is a light object and highly distortable (more than a baseball or golf ball) which spreads the impact energy over a greater amount of time/distance.
Also, how did Minerva win the match after deliberately attacking a spectator? Aren't there disqualification rules? They just hauled Hades off when Minerva won, so how would the judges know Minerva was acting to save someone's life? Would the police tell the judges something like that?
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After reading the file 752 I think that the FAT woman who invited conan , ran and kogoro is finally suspicious.
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In file 753 maybe yusaku and yukiko will return to japan ( same as the others ) , and they will go to their house and they will see.... Nobody  ;D , because the person who Agasa helped to change maybe was Okiya  >:D
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This case will take 50 episodes in the anime with a 15 minute-long recap every time.  8-)
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
meme wrote:
Conan 48:69 wrote:
Spoiler:
Since Ai-chan informed Yukiko to deliver an antidote to Conan, why don't Ai-chan inform Yukiko that Okiya is living in her real home. Will Yusaku and Yukiko return to Japan for a while, then will they meet Okiya in File 753, then Okiya Subaru's true identify will be clearer.
-Edited for spoilers by Chekhov. Remember your boxes!-
Spoiler:
How will his identity be clearer if Yukiko and Yusaku meet him?
-Edited for spoilers by Chekhov. Remember your boxes!-
Spoiler:
If we get lucky, we will have evidence Okiya never went anywhere, and it will break the only other decent theory Yuusaku=Okiya, leaving behind the simpler Okiya=Akai or Bourbon or third party options.
JohnTitor wrote:
Spoiler:
I just read the Chinese scanlations and... I just laughed. Laughed. Laughed so hard. This is so stupid, so "what-the-hell", and so... I mean, c'mon, man! Everyone's guesses turned out right! I just laughed. I just laughed seeing Hades was beaten up like one of the mini-villains in earlier DC chapters. Okay, I don't know what will happen next.
I wanna know Chekhov's reaction for this... resolution.
Spoiler:
I'll wait for the translation, but I suppose it's pretty much like I predicted it would be. The real mystery was back with the riddle, this was just the followup. I don't blame Minerva for her first hit, but Conan's followup tennis ball takedown was a wee bit on the silly side as in "Conan's shoes have the power to increase the mass of projectiles". I'm also surprised Conan didn't realize mystery lady was Yukiko at first. Yukiko has done this already.
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I see. The Yuusaku=Okiya theory is new to me.
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Wakarimashita wrote: This case will take 50 episodes in the anime with a 15 minute-long recap every time.  8-)
And Kogoro looks somehow bored.
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