Akonyl wrote:
b) For the stalking anokata/bowtie thing, in the future I think it might make more sense to fail all of the person's actions if they attempt to observe anokata. Iirc, this was discussed for people who try to act on travelers while doing something else as well, because it gives out too much information about the target. So, a thought for later mini+normal mafia rounds
I'm fairly sure he would have been lynched anyway, we already knew everyone's role.
Well, true on that anokata part. Tho it's not likely to observe anokata and use the bow-tie on the same night :V
Exatly. And since no one who can use observe can otherwise use a secondary ability there's no real need for change.
true, and I didn't say it would've affected the outcome of the game, but you shouldn't not add things to the rules for situations just because they're unlikely
Akonyl wrote:
b) For the stalking anokata/bowtie thing, in the future I think it might make more sense to fail all of the person's actions if they attempt to observe anokata. Iirc, this was discussed for people who try to act on travelers while doing something else as well, because it gives out too much information about the target. So, a thought for later mini+normal mafia rounds
I'm fairly sure he would have been lynched anyway, we already knew everyone's role.
Well, true on that anokata part. Tho it's not likely to observe anokata and use the bow-tie on the same night :V
Exatly. And since no one who can use observe can otherwise use a secondary ability there's no real need for change.
true, and I didn't say it would've affected the outcome of the game, but you shouldn't not add things to the rules for situations just because they're unlikely
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
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Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
hm.... true. I can also imagine that:
Vodka goes and tries to find the traveler and doesn't find him. In his confusion he starts to drink Vodka and forgets to kill his target XD
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Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
hm.... true. I can also imagine that:
Vodka goes and tries to find the traveler and doesn't find him. In his confusion he starts to drink Vodka and forgets to kill his target XD
or, he gets so sad that he wasn't able to bop someone on the head that he just drinks vodka to drown his sorrows.
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
hm.... true. I can also imagine that:
Vodka goes and tries to find the traveler and doesn't find him. In his confusion he starts to drink Vodka and forgets to kill his target XD
or, he gets so sad that he wasn't able to bop someone on the head that he just drinks vodka to drown his sorrows.
Head-bopping is all he has to go on in life. D:
I know D:
*glares at eve*
Keyhole drawn by Yuri Iwamoto <3
Spoiler: Secret Santa gift from Commi-Ninja <3
A Black Organization Christmas Carol (need to fix the link)
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
hm.... true. I can also imagine that:
Vodka goes and tries to find the traveler and doesn't find him. In his confusion he starts to drink Vodka and forgets to kill his target XD
or, he gets so sad that he wasn't able to bop someone on the head that he just drinks vodka to drown his sorrows.
Head-bopping is all he has to go on in life. D:
I know D:
*glares at eve*
someone mentions me?
Kleene, you know how sad I was not being able to trick you anymore? after your death I mean D: [round 13 was awesome though ]
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Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
hm.... true. I can also imagine that:
Vodka goes and tries to find the traveler and doesn't find him. In his confusion he starts to drink Vodka and forgets to kill his target XD
or, he gets so sad that he wasn't able to bop someone on the head that he just drinks vodka to drown his sorrows.
Head-bopping is all he has to go on in life. D:
I know D:
*glares at eve*
someone mentions me?
Kleene, you know how sad I was not being able to trick you anymore? after your death I mean D: [round 13 was awesome though ]
Keyhole drawn by Yuri Iwamoto <3
Spoiler: Secret Santa gift from Commi-Ninja <3
A Black Organization Christmas Carol (need to fix the link)
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
hm.... true. I can also imagine that:
Vodka goes and tries to find the traveler and doesn't find him. In his confusion he starts to drink Vodka and forgets to kill his target XD
or, he gets so sad that he wasn't able to bop someone on the head that he just drinks vodka to drown his sorrows.
Head-bopping is all he has to go on in life. D:
I know D:
*glares at eve*
someone mentions me?
Kleene, you know how sad I was not being able to trick you anymore? after your death I mean D: [round 13 was awesome though ]
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
hm.... true. I can also imagine that:
Vodka goes and tries to find the traveler and doesn't find him. In his confusion he starts to drink Vodka and forgets to kill his target XD
or, he gets so sad that he wasn't able to bop someone on the head that he just drinks vodka to drown his sorrows.
Head-bopping is all he has to go on in life. D:
I know D:
*glares at eve*
someone mentions me?
Kleene, you know how sad I was not being able to trick you anymore? after your death I mean D: [round 13 was awesome though ]
Don't cry, want some tea?
No thx
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Spoiler: Secret Santa gift from Commi-Ninja <3
A Black Organization Christmas Carol (need to fix the link)
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
hm.... true. I can also imagine that:
Vodka goes and tries to find the traveler and doesn't find him. In his confusion he starts to drink Vodka and forgets to kill his target XD
or, he gets so sad that he wasn't able to bop someone on the head that he just drinks vodka to drown his sorrows.
Head-bopping is all he has to go on in life. D:
I know D:
*glares at eve*
someone mentions me?
Kleene, you know how sad I was not being able to trick you anymore? after your death I mean D: [round 13 was awesome though ]
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Well, that never happened before :V But somewhere was said observing Anokata will fail, but the whole player wasn't tricked (meaning investigating that observe would come out as true, while with tricking it should be "false")
But yeah, should clarify it more and maybe change something :V
right, but a similar situation's happened before, where it was asked (I think by pofa in round 13) if vodka discombobulated a foreigner (which failed), if an attempt to kill someone that night would also fail. Imo, they should both fail because otherwise, vodka would know the person is a foreigner, which I'm not sure should happen, but that's basically the same situation as here. But, up to the GM really to use whichever rules they prefer.
hm.... true. I can also imagine that:
Vodka goes and tries to find the traveler and doesn't find him. In his confusion he starts to drink Vodka and forgets to kill his target XD
or, he gets so sad that he wasn't able to bop someone on the head that he just drinks vodka to drown his sorrows.
Head-bopping is all he has to go on in life. D:
I know D:
*glares at eve*
someone mentions me?
Kleene, you know how sad I was not being able to trick you anymore? after your death I mean D: [round 13 was awesome though ]