Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

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How will Shinichi/Conan return to Japan? (stolen from baka1412)

Illegal ways (Document Forgery, "back-routes", bribing the officers, hijacking the plane, etc)
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Using his connection with the FBI's to sneak him out of the country.
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Agasa miraculously creates a Teleportation machine.
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Haibara send him another batch of antidote(s) (post/directly)
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Haibara entrusted back-up medicine to Jodie / Yukiko / FBI / she somehow got trustful friend out there (the mysterious lady on last file)
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Extra Terrestrial creatures help.
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He never returned to Japan again...
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He never returned to Conan again...
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6%
He swim all the way across to Japan by sea..
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"Home Alone" reference; as a conan, he's tagging any unsuspecting adults during the last minutes before the plane take off, pretending to be their child.
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Asking for Japanese embassy help, hoping to get deported back to Japan..
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3%
He'd get help from that pro tennis player eventually (for solving the case).. I don't know how she would pull some string though...
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10%
Unexplainable Time Skip, the case finished, and we're suddenly back to Beika City the next day without explanation..
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14%
 
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Anyone here think that Hades and Hestia might be manipulated by some Moriarty-like person? Hades seems to be expert about Sherlock Holmes. Don't know, but... this just remind me of Movie 6, where in Noah's Ark-version of the game, Jack the Ripper was manipulated by Moriarty. Just saying, just saying.
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Alright, JUST IN CASE anyone read that horrible Japanese-Chinese-English scanlation of 751 that's out there, let me clear this up:
Spoiler: 751
Minerva is purposely hitting things she knows Demeter will be able to return.  She saved the ball that Demeter hit from going out.  The purpose is again, like the high lob, to watch the reactions of the spectators.  Ball goes left, everyone looks left.  Ball goes right, everyone looks right.  This is the championship point.  If you are not looking at where the ball is going, you are either blind or Hades.  There is no reason for you to be looking at anything else!  The game could be over at any second!

That said, I am FURIOUS with smug Conan!  Wtf - Minerva could still lose this set!  If you know where he is, hustle your ass over to Hades and freaking tranq him already!!!!!!!  >:(
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Did not resist not reading this. I agree with the ones who said that the whole situation for the invitation, does not seem good enough for a writer like Gosho, besides Ai's sympathy for Conan and let him be Shinichi twice in a short time, sounds just out of character to me, since she only agrees when it is a matter of life or death.

On the other hand, Diana has hardly appeared, since she is the one who invited them and paid all this money, But I was thinking, since she is that rich, she must be living in a mansion, were there should be a space to host Mouri and his family.

Hope the coming files will clarify more about her.

Also, I was disappointed that the London under ground was not part of the riddle.

Finally, my only hope here is that something is happening in Japan related to the plot, while they are in London.
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Abs. wrote: Alright, JUST IN CASE anyone read that horrible Japanese-Chinese-English scanlation of 751 that's out there, let me clear this up:
Spoiler: 751
Minerva is purposely hitting things she knows Demeter will be able to return.  She saved the ball that Demeter hit from going out.  The purpose is again, like the high lob, to watch the reactions of the spectators.  Ball goes left, everyone looks left.  Ball goes right, everyone looks right.  This is the championship point.  If you are not looking at where the ball is going, you are either blind or Hades.  There is no reason for you to be looking at anything else!  The game could be over at any second!

That said, I am FURIOUS with smug Conan!  Wtf - Minerva could still lose this set!  If you know where he is, hustle your ass over to Hades and freaking tranq him already!!!!!!!  >:(
FINALLY!! Finally there's somebody who agrees with me. :)
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I'm also mad that Conan did nothing in the latest file. Man, it was SO close to detonate the bomb!!! Too risky, really... But looks like Conan detected Hades at the end of the file, during the longest throw, dropping (I don't know how to call it). Anyway, I hope catching Hades will be more exciting than just making him sleep or throwing the ball right in his face (the second option would be funny though ;) ). Well, we will see, soon or later... Probably later... :P
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I wonder how Hades will be caught...  :-\
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Abs. wrote:
Spoiler: 751
That said, I am FURIOUS with smug Conan!  Wtf - Minerva could still lose this set!  If you know where he is, hustle your ass over to Hades and freaking tranq him already!!!!!!!  >:(
You know what? This reminds me of Yusaku, when they were about to catch the criminal in the North Star (?) train case and he waited for the perfect moment. Father and son. XD
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JohnTitor wrote: Anyone here think that Hades and Hestia might be manipulated by some Moriarty-like person? Hades seems to be expert about Sherlock Holmes. Don't know, but... this just remind me of Movie 6, where in Noah's Ark-version of the game, Jack the Ripper was manipulated by Moriarty. Just saying, just saying.
I like this. Outsourcing crime is something Moriarty is known for and it would just make the arc so much more awesome. :D
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Dus wrote:
JohnTitor wrote: Anyone here think that Hades and Hestia might be manipulated by some Moriarty-like person? Hades seems to be expert about Sherlock Holmes. Don't know, but... this just remind me of Movie 6, where in Noah's Ark-version of the game, Jack the Ripper was manipulated by Moriarty. Just saying, just saying.
I like this. Outsourcing crime is something Moriarty is known for and it would just make the arc so much more awesome. :D
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Kor wrote: So we're still missing a Basketball case, and if Conan gets to go to the US again, we'll probably see a Football case too........though I doubt another US visit will happen, so leave that out.



I'm fairly certain that at the Basketball case, we'll see the die-hard basketball fans, Gin and Vodka, at the audience cheering for their favorite team  ;D
if they ever do a basketball case, they better get the harlem globetrotters in there.
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Akonyl wrote:
Kor wrote: So we're still missing a Basketball case, and if Conan gets to go to the US again, we'll probably see a Football case too........though I doubt another US visit will happen, so leave that out.



I'm fairly certain that at the Basketball case, we'll see the die-hard basketball fans, Gin and Vodka, at the audience cheering for their favorite team  ;D
if they ever do a basketball case, they better get the harlem globetrotters in there.
That would be so awesome!
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Misztina wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Spoiler: 751
That said, I am FURIOUS with smug Conan!  Wtf - Minerva could still lose this set!  If you know where he is, hustle your ass over to Hades and freaking tranq him already!!!!!!!   >:(
You know what? This reminds me of Yusaku, when they were about to catch the criminal in the North Star (?) train case and he waited for the perfect moment. Father and son. XD
It's their nature to show off. They like to wait for the right moments to get some attention. :P
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ShiraKiryuu wrote:
Misztina wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Spoiler: 751
That said, I am FURIOUS with smug Conan!  Wtf - Minerva could still lose this set!  If you know where he is, hustle your ass over to Hades and freaking tranq him already!!!!!!!  >:(
You know what? This reminds me of Yusaku, when they were about to catch the criminal in the North Star (?) train case and he waited for the perfect moment. Father and son. XD
It's their nature to show off. They like to wait for the right moments to get some attention. :P
lol yes exactly. it's in Shinichi's nature to show the smug face and be all dramatic, to go ahead and DO SOMETHING without any hesitation is more like, Heiji's style. xD but then again, since they were at 7-7, I guess Conan just figured that they were safe, for now. we don't know at which point Conan found Hades, it might have been when the umpire was reviewing the challenge for all we know, when everyone would be transfixed on the giant screen/umpire, except Hades/Minerva.

and i kinda really like this file actually. Gosho's meaning of 'hang in there' was cooler than i expected and it would've been so exciting to watch that match!!!
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Conan probably found out at the moment he's pictured doing the "surprised" face on page 13. Regarding the assumption that Conan's going to find Hades because he will be the only one who's not following the ball, besides Juno. Why do you think Hades won't be following the ball? He doesn't need to be watching the cammera to film. He just needs to point it and hold it still. He should be watching the game, if he's anxiously waiting for it to end.
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I'd like to think Conan found Hades just then and hadn't had time to run around the court yet. Conan's plan has proceeded without hitch so far. I sure hope something goes wrong to make it interesting. So far Hades' plan doesn't seem like it requires an accomplice, so it's questionable if Hestia is here at all. He could post her as a lookout, but he hasn't said anything aloud that could be interpreted as instructions to watch out for anyone. He doesn't have a mike or earphones either. I assume mystery lady will appear in this next file or the file after this one, whichever is the resolution.
Dashin wrote:Regarding the assumption that Conan's going to find Hades because he will be the only one who's not following the ball, besides Juno. Why do you think Hades won't be following the ball? He doesn't need to be watching the cammera to film. He just needs to point it and hold it still. He should be watching the game, if he's anxiously waiting for it to end.
Holding the camera steady is difficult if you are not paying attention. Hades is zoomed way in to the other side of the court, so if he doesn't want the image to swing wildly, he needs to be somewhat focused on keeping the image centered on Juno. He can watch the game, but it isn't going to be like the other spectators who can freely move to follow the action.
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For some reason this reminds of the episode of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Ail episode when Will visited his mom in philadelphia but in the end he wanted to stay in philadelphia, but then in the next episode you see the fresh prince producers showing up to Will saying the show is called Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and not Philadelpia then threw him in a van and brought him back to Bel-Air.

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