Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

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How will Shinichi/Conan return to Japan? (stolen from baka1412)

Illegal ways (Document Forgery, "back-routes", bribing the officers, hijacking the plane, etc)
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Using his connection with the FBI's to sneak him out of the country.
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6%
Agasa miraculously creates a Teleportation machine.
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1%
Haibara send him another batch of antidote(s) (post/directly)
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15%
Haibara entrusted back-up medicine to Jodie / Yukiko / FBI / she somehow got trustful friend out there (the mysterious lady on last file)
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Extra Terrestrial creatures help.
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5%
He never returned to Japan again...
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3%
He never returned to Conan again...
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6%
He swim all the way across to Japan by sea..
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4%
"Home Alone" reference; as a conan, he's tagging any unsuspecting adults during the last minutes before the plane take off, pretending to be their child.
5
4%
Asking for Japanese embassy help, hoping to get deported back to Japan..
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3%
He'd get help from that pro tennis player eventually (for solving the case).. I don't know how she would pull some string though...
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10%
Unexplainable Time Skip, the case finished, and we're suddenly back to Beika City the next day without explanation..
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14%
 
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Page 5 doesn't make sense.
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Why are the balls labeled out in the service box? Unless she's serving to the wrong side on purpose, which wouldn't make sense because the crowd would see that she's doing it on purpose.
Also, I know it's a manga, but it's impossible to hit lets on purpose and have the ball land in the right spot consistently.
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Well...
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Maybe the development meant by Gosho has something to do with Conan becoming popular or something? Anyway, was there really an explanation that the "development" itself will be about ShinRan? (please correct me if I'm wrong) If judging from the daring action that Conan did, wouldn't it be possible that somehow... maybe Conan will be known as "Holmes' Apprentice" by the WORLD? I mean, this is Wimbledon, right? And also the hints that this European arc will continue to France (Tour de France)? I said that the New York arc was cooler because the setting was not somehow awkward and "improbable" like London arc... the "color" was more gloomy, and Sharon' words and other things... but after all, this London arc is interesting enough. Especially the references to Holmes.  ;)
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I may be stating the obvious, but Conan's plan has a leak. He doesn't know Hades overheard the conversation between Juno and Apollo about "Holmes' Apprentice" being on the case. If Conan acts under the assumption that Hades will not suspect a thing since he is a kid, Hades may realize what Conan is up to and spring the trap. Anyone present at the scene outside of Meissen porcelain above may realize belatedly that the raincoat figure was listening in and try to warn Conan, but it would be more interesting if Conan's plan went awry and he has to run damage control. Maybe Minerva can knock out Hades with a well placed serve if Conan figures out who he is.

Also, a half-nickel bet that mystery lady is at the match.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Maybe Minerva can knock out Hades with a well placed serve if Conan figures out who he is.
for more ridiculousness, she can serve the ball to Conan, who will then use his supercharged sneakers to kick the ball at Hades.
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Akonyl wrote: for more ridiculousness, she can serve the ball to Conan, who will then use his supercharged sneakers to kick the ball at Hades.
LOL! That would be a classic-style return to form! :D
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Blah wrote:
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Does anyone else think the teddy bear was suspicious? I think it might have the bomb. However, I'm kinda stupid so it's probably nothing  ;D. I just wondered why they even mentioned it if it wasn't important.
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That's immediately what I thought.. Something's definitely strange about that bear....meh, I hate waiting for the new files to come out
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Kor wrote:
RedPoppy wrote: Omg, people, let's imagine now London Case in anime! XD XD XD I will die from laughing! I bet all voice actors who will play new characters will use Engrish. O_O
I actually think they will turn it all to japanese aside from some sentences here and there. I mean, do you really believe the japanese audience is ready to watch an anime in subs? heh anime with subtitles, what a ridiculous idea.........................................................................wait.......

LOL :D :D
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: I may be stating the obvious, but Conan's plan has a leak. He doesn't know Hades overheard the conversation between Juno and Apollo about "Holmes' Apprentice" being on the case. If Conan acts under the assumption that Hades will not suspect a thing since he is a kid, Hades may realize what Conan is up to and spring the trap. Anyone present at the scene outside of Meissen porcelain above may realize belatedly that the raincoat figure was listening in and try to warn Conan, but it would be more interesting if Conan's plan went awry and he has to run damage control. Maybe Minerva can knock out Hades with a well placed serve if Conan figures out who he is.

Also, a half-nickel bet that mystery lady is at the match.
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Then again, Hades may not take his [Conan's] word seriously. He may blow it off as a kid (possibly) trying to give Minerva support (by mentioning her idol...??). People in Detective Conan never seem to really take kids seriously (save for a few officers-Megure and the other Beika officer). Who knows  :P
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Mage-san wrote:
Kor wrote:
RedPoppy wrote: Omg, people, let's imagine now London Case in anime! XD XD XD I will die from laughing! I bet all voice actors who will play new characters will use Engrish. O_O
I actually think they will turn it all to japanese aside from some sentences here and there. I mean, do you really believe the japanese audience is ready to watch an anime in subs? heh anime with subtitles, what a ridiculous idea.........................................................................wait.......

LOL :D :D
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: I may be stating the obvious, but Conan's plan has a leak. He doesn't know Hades overheard the conversation between Juno and Apollo about "Holmes' Apprentice" being on the case. If Conan acts under the assumption that Hades will not suspect a thing since he is a kid, Hades may realize what Conan is up to and spring the trap. Anyone present at the scene outside of Meissen porcelain above may realize belatedly that the raincoat figure was listening in and try to warn Conan, but it would be more interesting if Conan's plan went awry and he has to run damage control. Maybe Minerva can knock out Hades with a well placed serve if Conan figures out who he is.

Also, a half-nickel bet that mystery lady is at the match.
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Then again, Hades may not take his [Conan's] word seriously. He may blow it off as a kid (possibly) trying to give Minerva support (by mentioning her idol...??). People in Detective Conan never seem to really take kids seriously (save for a few officers-Megure and the other Beika officer). Who knows  :P
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No so. Ran mother At least two or three Home Detectives maybe four,and at least three of four out of town Detectives. THis was showned by getting Conan to where the questioning happened in the Red Wall Case.
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lol, like some others, the teddy bear also immediately screamed BOMBBOMBBOMB to me... but i'm not sure if it's pure intuition or paranoia thanks to all the anti-terrorism campaigns thats been going around these few years.

i also thought 749 ended pretty abruptly with nothing much happening... unless i missed the bigger implications of the file? like the panel where Ran asked Conan to protect Minerva + where the following panel with Shinichi's face in Conan's bg. Does that imply that Ran knows, almost for certain, that Conan = Shinichi?? Plus Conan shouting out that he's Holmes' Apprentice... as someone else pointed out, this was broadcast on Wimbledon, which is pretty international. if, on top of that, Conan is later shown to help catch the culprit, isn't that drawing too much attention to himself? (on the bright side, BO plot development = good, heh heh)

i also started guessing that MAYBE diana is Vermouth. she may have lured Conan intentionally halfway across the globe to talk to him/pass him a message/etc, since she kinda wants him to take down the BO? or take him to meet someone who can help him take down the BO?? i guess this theory is a little far fetched though, since Vermouth is now under closer supervision of the Boss. but, just a guess :)

am also guessing that even though Agasa/Kogoro/Ran is not with Conan, he's going to get a bit of help from Ares to protect Minerva, who will then feel that he has redeemed himself, and not feel so guilty any more about being involved in Minerva's father's death, and go back to Minerva, and suddenly Love is no longer 0. /soppy love ending
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So... they are okay with a child going into a stadium in which bombs are in?
Ran even cheers for the 7 year old child?
Jesus-lol. XD

No matter how smart Conan is, in the eyes of the adults (expect Agasa) he´s a small child, so instead of agreeing with him they should stop him and he had to find another way to get in somehow.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: I may be stating the obvious, but Conan's plan has a leak. He doesn't know Hades overheard the conversation between Juno and Apollo about "Holmes' Apprentice" being on the case. If Conan acts under the assumption that Hades will not suspect a thing since he is a kid, Hades may realize what Conan is up to and spring the trap. Anyone present at the scene outside of Meissen porcelain above may realize belatedly that the raincoat figure was listening in and try to warn Conan, but it would be more interesting if Conan's plan went awry and he has to run damage control. Maybe Minerva can knock out Hades with a well placed serve if Conan figures out who he is.

Also, a half-nickel bet that mystery lady is at the match.
That's exactly what I thought when I read it... they don't know Hades was watching them... and really, how does Conan plan to find out who Hades is? this all is a bit stranger than usual...

@Abs. thanks for the tennis explanation! I know the rules, but I didn't know the English terms for it ^^
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James Rye wrote: So... they are okay with a child going into a stadium in which bombs are in?
Ran even cheers for the 7 year old child?
Jesus-lol. XD
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To me the stupid thing with the lets was way worse then letting a kid in instead of Kogoro or Agasa. But it would be hilarious if they did because they know.

But shouting at the players during serve! Where the hell do you think you are, Conan!? FLUSHING MEADOWS?? :-*
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I know this is really late (I missed it the day it was posted), but what is this about Hattori speaking proper English??  Or am I just confused  ???
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DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote: I know this is really late (I missed it the day it was posted), but what is this about Hattori speaking proper English??  Or am I just confused  ???
Watch the case where Heiji and Conan visit Jodie's apartment.  Horikawa Ryo speaks 99% perfect English.
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