Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

[RedPoppy]

There's also the fact that they assumed the letter in the pen was an N, but it could also be a Z (actually, Shinichi mentioend it, but then forgot about it).

Excellent point...  However I don't remember Shinichi mentioning it

I totally agree with Dashin. What is the letter from the pen is "Z", not "N"? Other thing - there's still one letter missing - I mean another "A", which Conan threw away. Or maybe near the Big Ben there's second riddle with other letter?
"Saturn" may be the answer, but something must be wrong if Hades still thinks that his revenge will be successful. Maybe from all letters we can get a few words and all of them give us information about the date, the place of the murder. Till now we have "Saturn" - the date. Maybe "Satan" is about the place, or exactly time (now refers to the Book of Revelation, but I still don't think that Gosho would touch some religious issues).

[Dus]

Maybe the father's accident has something to do with the revenge the culprit wants?

Yup, you're supposed to get the feeling that the "traffic accident" was meant to wipe out the entire Glass clan.

when was this mentioned? I forgot all about it.

First mentioned here:

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Then more detail here:

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gotcha.

I was just wonderin because as long as we're talking about murdering a family, in mythology Chronos (greek version of saturn) tried to eat all his children, so who knows, might be slightly related. Might be the same in roman mythology, but iunno.

Kronos, not Chronos (that would be the god of time) and Saturn did devour his children.
But yeah, it might be a hint towards the culprit. Who would Saturn be though?

[Akonyl]

Kronos, not Chronos (that would be the god of time) and Saturn did devour his children.
But yeah, it might be a hint towards the culprit. Who would Saturn be though?

I was actually thinking Cronos, because that's how I've always seen it spelled (though I know Kronos is another spelling).

I just always put the H in there by habit :V

[DCreader]

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[tylertreese]

i'm really enjoying this arc so far. I wonder how many more chapters it will go on. I hope theres some more character development, I wanna know what all happened between Shinichi (I always wanna type Jimmy ) and Ran.

[Mage-san]

Maybe the father's accident has something to do with the revenge the culprit wants?

Yup, you're supposed to get the feeling that the "traffic accident" was meant to wipe out the entire Glass clan.

when was this mentioned? I forgot all about it.

First mentioned here:

Spoiler:

Then more detail here:

Spoiler:

gotcha.

I was just wonderin because as long as we're talking about murdering a family, in mythology Chronos (greek version of saturn) tried to eat all his children, so who knows, might be slightly related. Might be the same in roman mythology, but iunno.

Considering that the Romans stole practically EVERYTHING from EVERYONE the Cronus/Saturn myth is probably very similar.

[RedPoppy]

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[DCreader]

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[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I was re-reviewing the riddle suspecting there should be more information than simply "Saturn". I noted that the buildings chosen have no relationship to the letters or the Hades' grudge (a porcelain shop?), but decided that they were probably chosen for a particular reason. I marked the locations on a map and connected them in the order they were mentioned in the riddle and the result was a shape rather like a tennis racket.


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Many/Most users here already suspect Minerva Glass is the target, and this should add more evidence to that theory.
There are two possible locations for the murder where Minerva will predictably be. One is the site of the Wimbledon matches, Wimbledon center court, but that doesn't explain the Sherlock Holmes themeing, and it would be hard to pull off so easily given the probable security.
The Sherlock Holmes theme would make the Sherlock statue on Baker street that Minerva visits predictably before matches a more likely location of the target. It would be much easier for Hades to kill Minerva on the street. The time would be before the tennis match or whenever Minerva would visit. Assuming Apollo was not the only child told by Hades that a murder would occur before his eyes, the children given clues by the culprit are like the "Baker Street irregulars", so a murder on Baker Street would be "before their eyes" even if it is more figurative than literal.
I'm still stuck on what the "Book of Revelation" part adds to the mystery other than it is the last book of the bible, and thus implies the murder will occur before or after the finals match or one of the sets in the final match should the game be interrupted.

[baka1412]

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You're a genius chekhov !! Gosho can suck on that

[RedPoppy]

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I was re-reviewing the riddle suspecting there should be more information than simply "Saturn". I noted that the buildings chosen have no relationship to the letters or the Hades' grudge (a porcelain shop?), but decided that they were probably chosen for a particular reason. I marked the locations on a map and connected them in the order they were mentioned in the riddle and the result was a shape rather like a tennis racket.


Since this image will probably expire in the future due to being hosted on a free hosting site. Sorry about that.

Many/Most users here already suspect Minerva Glass is the target, but this should add more evidence to that theory.
There are two possible locations for the murder where Minerva will predictably be. One is the site of the Wimbledon matches, Wimbledon center court, but that doesn't have explain the Sherlock Holmes themeing, and it would be hard to pull off so easily given the probable security.
The Sherlock Holmes theme would make the Sherlock statue on Baker street that Minerva visits predictably before matches a more likely location of the target. It would be much easier for Hades to kill Minerva on the street. The time would be before the tennis match or whenever Minerva would visit. Assuming Apollo was not the only child told by Hades that a murder would occur before his eyes, the children given clues by the culprit are like the "Baker Street irregulars", so a murder on Baker Street would be "before their eyes" even if it is more figurative than literal.
I'm still stuck on what the "Book of Revelation" part adds to the mystery other than it is the last book of the bible, and thus implies the murder will occur before or after the finals match or one of the sets in the final match should the game be interrupted.

Amazing! O_O I totally support your deduction, Chekhov~!!! ^_^
The riddle gives information about the date of the murder - Saturday; the victim/place - Minerva Glass or the Wimbledon court...

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According to the spoiler, in the next file we will see female finals and Minerva will lose the match, so probably the Wimbledon court isn't the place of murder. Maybe it's really Baker Street?
Btw, Hades said "This is my revelations" in original as I remember, not "Book of Revelation", so maybe there's no religious references.

[xGinx]

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You're a genius chekhov !! Gosho can suck on that

I thought there were no doubts about that allready.

[Misztina]

Wow, according to the spoliers I got one thing right. That's rare.

[tylertreese]

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Maybe you are actually Holme's Disciple  ;D

[stella007]

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Maybe you are actually Holme's Disciple  ;D

thats my line.... you r awesome:D i think your deduction is correct.