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ShiraKiryuu wrote: Isn't it because that ever since the London arc started, Shinichi because too OOC and became the most careless character around?
that is why i told that this acr is walking toward an apic fail in the end!!!
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ShiraKiryuu wrote: Isn't it because that ever since the London arc started, Shinichi because too OOC and became the most careless character around?
that is why i told that this acr is walking toward an apic fail in the end!!!
Let's hope not. He should notice how he's being an idiot right now.

The only ray of hope for this arc is for Shiho to appear 8)
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ShiraKiryuu wrote:
xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote: Isn't it because that ever since the London arc started, Shinichi because too OOC and became the most careless character around?
that is why i told that this acr is walking toward an apic fail in the end!!!
Let's hope not. He should notice how he's being an idiot right now.

The only ray of hope for this arc is for Shiho to appear 8)
that is more stupid!.

the passport data .. remember.. it will remains there!!!

shiho will be monitored .. and the BO will know and they will go to london too
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xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote:
xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote: Isn't it because that ever since the London arc started, Shinichi because too OOC and became the most careless character around?
that is why i told that this acr is walking toward an apic fail in the end!!!
Let's hope not. He should notice how he's being an idiot right now.

The only ray of hope for this arc is for Shiho to appear 8)
that is more stupid!.

the passport data .. remember.. it will remains there!!!

shiho will be monitored .. and the BO will know and they will go to london too
She'll teleport :P

But with that, another BO arc can start ::)
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ShiraKiryuu wrote:
xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote:
xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote: Isn't it because that ever since the London arc started, Shinichi because too OOC and became the most careless character around?
that is why i told that this acr is walking toward an apic fail in the end!!!
Let's hope not. He should notice how he's being an idiot right now.

The only ray of hope for this arc is for Shiho to appear 8)
that is more stupid!.

the passport data .. remember.. it will remains there!!!

shiho will be monitored .. and the BO will know and they will go to london too
She'll teleport :P

But with that, another BO arc can start ::)
She is TOO afraid to go there!!!
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xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote:
xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote:
xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote: Isn't it because that ever since the London arc started, Shinichi because too OOC and became the most careless character around?
that is why i told that this acr is walking toward an apic fail in the end!!!
Let's hope not. He should notice how he's being an idiot right now.

The only ray of hope for this arc is for Shiho to appear 8)
that is more stupid!.

the passport data .. remember.. it will remains there!!!

shiho will be monitored .. and the BO will know and they will go to london too
She'll teleport :P

But with that, another BO arc can start ::)
She is TOO afraid to go there!!!
Who knows whether Haibara / Shiho was the greatest disciple of vermouth.. She might capable of using those unbelievable face disguise..
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baka1412 wrote:
xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote:
xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote:
xpon wrote:
ShiraKiryuu wrote: Isn't it because that ever since the London arc started, Shinichi because too OOC and became the most careless character around?
that is why i told that this acr is walking toward an apic fail in the end!!!
Let's hope not. He should notice how he's being an idiot right now.

The only ray of hope for this arc is for Shiho to appear 8)
that is more stupid!.

the passport data .. remember.. it will remains there!!!

shiho will be monitored .. and the BO will know and they will go to london too
She'll teleport :P

But with that, another BO arc can start ::)
She is TOO afraid to go there!!!
Who knows whether Haibara / Shiho was the greatest disciple of vermouth.. She might capable of using those unbelievable face disguise..
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You miss the point.

it doesnt matter what she look like. The passport I the main issue now. Sh must used her passport to go to london and the bo is most likely will monitor the immigration data
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We DO know the BO is an international organization. Otherwise, the FBI wouldn't be involved. It's not unlikely they're routinely checking the airlines' databases for people they don't want to leave the country. They're probably not looking for the name Shinichi Kudo (Shiho shouldn't even dream about using her real ID though) but whoever is monitoring the database might recognize that name. Especially if it's Bourbon.
So yes, the Bo might very well get wise to Shinichi because his utter stupidity in this ooc-arc.
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Dus wrote: We DO know the BO is an international organization. Otherwise, the FBI wouldn't be involved. It's not unlikely they're routinely checking the airlines' databases for people they don't want to leave the country. They're probably not looking for the name Shinichi Kudo (Shiho shouldn't even dream about using her real ID though) but whoever is monitoring the database might recognize that name. Especially if it's Bourbon.
So yes, the Bo might very well get wise to Shinichi because his utter stupidity in this ooc-arc.
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Dus wrote: We DO know the BO is an international organization. Otherwise, the FBI wouldn't be involved. It's not unlikely they're routinely checking the airlines' databases for people they don't want to leave the country. They're probably not looking for the name Shinichi Kudo (Shiho shouldn't even dream about using her real ID though) but whoever is monitoring the database might recognize that name. Especially if it's Bourbon.
So yes, the Bo might very well get wise to Shinichi because his utter stupidity in this ooc-arc.
No... we don't... We know they have interests in America... as well as one American agent... That does not make it international... We assume it is international because of Chris Vineyard, but to assume that they are completely international on that small bit of information would be a mistake. If you commit a federal crime in the USA the FBI would be involved... If Gosho brought in the ICPO (Interpol) THEN I'd say that would be enough evidence to suggest international activity on the scale most would suggest... As far as we know they only have interests in America and Japan, and that ONE of Shiho's parents (mother iirc) is from England...

People make too many grand assumptions in DC with small clues... The FBI is certainly not an international organization, which is why they are in Japan secretly (and I call into question Gosho's choice to show so many of them... in the situation they are in... without authorization... they could NOT perform some of the things they have done.). The FBI is an American federal Bureau, which means it is a smaller operation... Their international offices are more of base camps in US embassies so that they can conduct investigations pertinent to US interests in other countries, host countries permitting... Their jurisdiction is US, and can't do much in other countries without the host country's law enforcement or blessing. FACT: IN THE REAL WORLD, Jodie would have been arrested for wrongful possession of a firearm by the Japanese government in that one case where Megure caught her with a firearm (that is if I am recalling the case correctly).


And again... read back to my three points... We don't know what resources the BO have, or what they are capable of, or if they have watch on anyone that they have already killed and deem dead...

And if they had any real intelligence they would have already surmised that Shinichi is either A) alive, B) under government protection (and therefore somewhere where they might not be able to find him unless he shows himself) or C) Out of the country... How hard would it be to check PUBLIC RECORDS for a DEATH CERTIFICATE! Shinichi is not dead, ergo there is not death certificate... Not that hard... Oh right, there is also no MISSING PERSON'S REPORT! Don't you think they would realize that loved ones would file one if he were gone and out of contact?

Personally... unless Vermouth is doing some serious manipulation of information within the BO... The BO is pretty damned stupid to have not figured out that Shinichi is alive and plotting their destruction... And if they had the influence that they are claimed to have then they would have access to wiretaps, and would be able to TRACE SHINICHI'S CELLPHONE! Hell... a regular person can do that if they have the know-how... They would have also been alerted to the fact that Shinichi's father's credit card was used in Japan, with him not being there, and it not being reported stolen. (must mean that the kid is still alive)
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kyuuketsuki wrote:
Dus wrote: We DO know the BO is an international organization. Otherwise, the FBI wouldn't be involved. It's not unlikely they're routinely checking the airlines' databases for people they don't want to leave the country. They're probably not looking for the name Shinichi Kudo (Shiho shouldn't even dream about using her real ID though) but whoever is monitoring the database might recognize that name. Especially if it's Bourbon.
So yes, the Bo might very well get wise to Shinichi because his utter stupidity in this ooc-arc.
No... we don't... We know they have interests in America... as well as one American agent... That does not make it international... We assume it is international because of Chris Vineyard, but to assume that they are completely international on that small bit of information would be a mistake. If you commit a federal crime in the USA the FBI would be involved... If Gosho brought in the ICPO (Interpol) THEN I'd say that would be enough evidence to suggest international activity on the scale most would suggest... As far as we know they only have interests in America and Japan, and that ONE of Shiho's parents (mother iirc) is from England...

People make too many grand assumptions in DC with small clues... The FBI is certainly not an international organization, which is why they are in Japan secretly (and I call into question Gosho's choice to show so many of them... in the situation they are in... without authorization... they could NOT perform some of the things they have done.). The FBI is an American federal Bureau, which means it is a smaller operation... Their international offices are more of base camps in US embassies so that they can conduct investigations pertinent to US interests in other countries, host countries permitting... Their jurisdiction is US, and can't do much in other countries without the host country's law enforcement or blessing. FACT: IN THE REAL WORLD, Jodie would have been arrested for wrongful possession of a firearm by the Japanese government in that one case where Megure caught her with a firearm (that is if I am recalling the case correctly).
that is right!.

the FBI action in DC is Mocking the real life LAW
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kyuuketsuki wrote:
Dus wrote: We DO know the BO is an international organization. Otherwise, the FBI wouldn't be involved. It's not unlikely they're routinely checking the airlines' databases for people they don't want to leave the country. They're probably not looking for the name Shinichi Kudo (Shiho shouldn't even dream about using her real ID though) but whoever is monitoring the database might recognize that name. Especially if it's Bourbon.
So yes, the Bo might very well get wise to Shinichi because his utter stupidity in this ooc-arc.
No... we don't... We know they have interests in America... as well as one American agent... That does not make it international... We assume it is international because of Chris Vineyard, but to assume that they are completely international on that small bit of information would be a mistake. If you commit a federal crime in the USA the FBI would be involved... If Gosho brought in the ICPO (Interpol) THEN I'd say that would be enough evidence to suggest international activity on the scale most would suggest... As far as we know they only have interests in America and Japan, and that ONE of Shiho's parents (mother iirc) is from England...

People make too many grand assumptions in DC with small clues... The FBI is certainly not an international organization, which is why they are in Japan secretly (and I call into question Gosho's choice to show so many of them... in the situation they are in... without authorization... they could NOT perform some of the things they have done.). The FBI is an American federal Bureau, which means it is a smaller operation... Their international offices are more of base camps in US embassies so that they can conduct investigations pertinent to US interests in other countries, host countries permitting... Their jurisdiction is US, and can't do much in other countries without the host country's law enforcement or blessing. FACT: IN THE REAL WORLD, Jodie would have been arrested for wrongful possession of a firearm by the Japanese government in that one case where Megure caught her with a firearm (that is if I am recalling the case correctly).
When was Jodie caught with a firearm? I don't remember...
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when ran being save ai and conan get shot and calvados suicide and akai shotgun vermouth and conan heard the nanatsu no karasu for the first time
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xpon wrote: when ran being save ai and conan get shot and calvados suicide and akai shotgun vermouth and conan heard the nanatsu no karasu for the first time
Well specifically... She more or less revealed herself as an active agent in Japan, and told MPD that she was going to be there... If you are active it is assumed you have a firearm... So she should have been sought out and detained after that...
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