Shinichi being a fool & some FBI related discussion

[xpon]

Maybe Shinichi thought they wouldn't bother with hacking and constantly monitoring the airline's database for people they reconfirmed as dead? They still seem to still think Shinichi is dead even though Shiho defected.

Are we sure that's still the case after 345?  Gin seemed vaguely interested in the idea that someone he killed may have come back.

I wonder if any person stupid enough to counter this post with lines came from movie 13

[baka1412]

Maybe Shinichi thought they wouldn't bother with hacking and constantly monitoring the airline's database for people they reconfirmed as dead? They still seem to still think Shinichi is dead even though Shiho defected.

Are we sure that's still the case after 345?  Gin seemed vaguely interested in the idea that someone he killed may have come back.

I wonder if any person stupid enough to counter this post with lines came from movie 13

Which lines ?

[caribou]

i don't know about satou etc going suicidal... but you're absolutely right o_o so even if no BO members show up in this case, the arc will end with Bourbon grinning to himself because he's found something... could it be that the BO have set their eyes on Conan for some time, and DIANA is someone in disguise (Bourbon??) sent over to fish Conan to leave the country and therefore reveal his true self??

[Kleene Onigiri]

Adding to that, conan wasn't very careful in the red shirt case either, while the BO was around tho conan didn't know. But still, he was in public and used "sleeping kogorou"

[xGinx]

Adding to that, conan wasn't very careful in the red shirt case either, while the BO was around tho conan didn't know. But still, he was in public and used "sleeping kogorou"

But in the Red Shirts Case he was hiding from the Public while "using" the Nemuri no Kogorou .... behind a bush xD LOL

[Kleene Onigiri]

Adding to that, conan wasn't very careful in the red shirt case either, while the BO was around tho conan didn't know. But still, he was in public and used "sleeping kogorou"

But in the Red Shirts Case he was hiding from the Public while "using" the Nemuri no Kogorou .... behind a bush xD LOL

In the anime he was hiding behind a bush, tho it was still obvious. But in the manga he didn't hide ;P

[Akonyl]

Watch, the BO will confront him in London and then he'll be all "...just as planned!" and the FBI will pop out and arrest everyone.

I can see it happening, given how semi-random the developments in this arc seem to be due to rushing.

[Mr_Useless]

When they get back to Tokyo, they find Gin and Vodka waiting with a giant paper with "Edogawa Conan" written on it. Chaos ensues, they fight with different weapons. Ran avoids bullets. Hattori get into the airport by flying through the windows with his bike, then fights Vodka with a wooden sword. Meanwhile, Gin throws a capsule on the ground and a mecha appears. He jumps into it and starts destroying the place, only to be stopped by the Liberty Statue-shaped lighter Yoko throws at him. Megure appears only to be shot. Takagi and Miwako are found making out in the bathroom.
Then, when the chainsaw guy from Resident Evil 4 is about to cut Conan's head off, Superman arrives and saves the day.

That's how i think this arc will end.

[kyuuketsuki]

I can't argue with the logic set forth thus far... BUT I can put in some food for thought...

1) (This has been said but...) We are only assuming that the Black Org is international... Though I believe this to be true, we can be totally off base and they can be a smaller operation...

Additional things to consider with #1: If it isn't an international organization, they could have a hand in domestic intelligence regardless, but not be able to do anything until he returns... If that is so... They could find him if they were looking, but we can assume that they are not... Reason is that they are actively looking for Shiho, and she is not going anywhere... As for Gin and Bourbon who would want to find him/have a drive, we can assume if they do get a lead like customs records at the airport or such, that they could possibly keep it to themselves... Gin because he FAILED at killing someone, and Bourbon because he doesn't like Gin and would want to prove that this kid is alive and to do the job himself to make Gin look bad.

2) The assumption that things can be faked... Here is a fun one... Let's say that they DO find out that a person named Kudo Shinichi boarded a plane, and all the credentials match those of the person supposed to be deceased... That alone is not enough to confirm that he is alive. I could easily see that the FBI would come out and say that was a hoax to draw out members of the Org to bring them down. It is NOT that hard to fake things if you have the right resources, the FBI would certainly have such resources, and looking at Shinichi's parents could be brought in as well... With Yuusaku's connections, and Yukiko's skills at disguise, I'm sure that they could come to the conclusion that it is a ruse to draw them out to avenge their son. Downside to that? they would be targeted, but having a master of disguise, and someone with great resources would make them difficult prey to track down. The Black Org would sooner go after friends and relatives of the Kudo's than the Kudo's themselves...

3)Vermouth... Vermouth being in the position that she is in could probably very easily delete or prevent the Black Org from obtaining the information needed to confirm that Kudo was on that plane. They would need to steak Shinichi's passport, with his fingerprints, and get the hard evidence to make an absolute confirmation...


Again, these things are just food for thought... I have these same concerns... But still it is interesting to think of ways Shinichi could dodge the proverbial (and probably literal) bullet with the situation he has gotten himself into.

[xpon]

Which lines ?

When Irish ask gin about Kudo Shinichi .. and Gin answer that He already killed many people so how can he remember every victim!

that line!

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Watch, the BO will confront him in London and then he'll be all "...just as planned!" and the FBI will pop out and arrest everyone.
I can see it happening, given how semi-random the developments in this arc seem to be due to rushing.

then DC will ends? ha ha ha ha...

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When they get back to Tokyo, they find Gin and Vodka waiting with a giant paper with "Edogawa Conan" written on it. Chaos ensues, they fight with different weapons. Ran avoids bullets. Hattori get into the airport by flying through the windows with his bike, then fights Vodka with a wooden sword. Meanwhile, Gin throws a capsule on the ground and a mecha appears. He jumps into it and starts destroying the place, only to be stopped by the Liberty Statue-shaped lighter Yoko throws at him. Megure appears only to be shot. Takagi and Miwako are found making out in the bathroom.
Then, when the chainsaw guy from Resident Evil 4 is about to cut Conan's head off, Superman arrives and saves the day.

That's how i think this arc will end.

nice imagination.. really nice ! good job!

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I can't argue with the logic set forth thus far... BUT I can put in some food for thought...

1) (This has been said but...) We are only assuming that the Black Org is international... Though I believe this to be true, we can be totally off base and they can be a smaller operation...

Additional things to consider with #1: If it isn't an international organization, they could have a hand in domestic intelligence regardless, but not be able to do anything until he returns... If that is so... They could find him if they were looking, but we can assume that they are not... Reason is that they are actively looking for Shiho, and she is not going anywhere... As for Gin and Bourbon who would want to find him/have a drive, we can assume if they do get a lead like customs records at the airport or such, that they could possibly keep it to themselves... Gin because he FAILED at killing someone, and Bourbon because he doesn't like Gin and would want to prove that this kid is alive and to do the job himself to make Gin look bad.

2) The assumption that things can be faked... Here is a fun one... Let's say that they DO find out that a person named Kudo Shinichi boarded a plane, and all the credentials match those of the person supposed to be deceased... That alone is not enough to confirm that he is alive. I could easily see that the FBI would come out and say that was a hoax to draw out members of the Org to bring them down. It is NOT that hard to fake things if you have the right resources, the FBI would certainly have such resources, and looking at Shinichi's parents could be brought in as well... With Yuusaku's connections, and Yukiko's skills at disguise, I'm sure that they could come to the conclusion that it is a ruse to draw them out to avenge their son. Downside to that? they would be targeted, but having a master of disguise, and someone with great resources would make them difficult prey to track down. The Black Org would sooner go after friends and relatives of the Kudo's than the Kudo's themselves...

yes.. he may.. but he is taking unnecessary risk!.

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I can't argue with the logic set forth thus far... BUT I can put in some food for thought...

1) (This has been said but...) We are only assuming that the Black Org is international... Though I believe this
3)Vermouth... Vermouth being in the position that she is in could probably very easily delete or prevent the Black Org from obtaining the information needed to confirm that Kudo was on that plane. They would need to steak Shinichi's passport, with his fingerprints, and get the hard evidence to make an absolute confirmation...

Right now vermouth still side with conan ( in term dont reveal him to the organization) but will she sacrifice her life for shinichi? i guess not!

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i don't know about satou etc going suicidal... but you're absolutely right o_o so even if no BO members show up in this case, the arc will end with Bourbon grinning to himself because he's found something... could it be that the BO have set their eyes on Conan for some time, and DIANA is someone in disguise (Bourbon??) sent over to fish Conan to leave the country and therefore reveal his true self??

they are not surveillance organization.. they will kill if they sense someone is a potentially danger (just a potential already killed.. what will happen for someone who know much? answer it by your self)

they even killed their own member!!!!

[breva]

maybe it's the begining of the end 

[xpon]

maybe it's the begining of the end 

the end must be actions... not some silly love and code breaking

[Kleene Onigiri]

Don't you mean Irish? @xpon

[xpon]

Don't you mean Irish? @xpon

ups.. yeah.. sorry..  i type that in my phone and move it to computer.. and i switch the roles.. sorry..

[ShiraKiryuu]

Isn't it because that ever since the London arc started, Shinichi because too OOC and became the most careless character around?