Shinichi being a fool & some FBI related discussion

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I don't really pay attention to this matter before but after re-reading the manga, it struck me like a lightning! Image.

The main reason why Shinichi live as Conan Edogawa is to make the BO dont realize that the high school detective is still alive right? but the case on chapter 743 is contradict this principle!

Well, before we walk further, I want to review and refresh our memories! This Fact is the ground base for our discussions here.

The Black Organization know about Shinichi Kudo Personal informations
In chapter 1 we know that Vodka knows / heard about how great Shinichi Kudo is.
After poisoning Shinichi, Gin & Vodka must had filled some sort of guest-book in Black Organization headquarter! they must write something like this:
Name: Shinichi Kudo
Occupation: High school detective-wanna be
Actions: Poisoned with APTX 4869
Status: Unknown
Because in chapter 179 we know that Sherry have those data. And the fact that they investigate Shinichi Kudo house twice prove that they have Shinichi Kudo photos, home address and most likely they also know about his School, close friends and parents.

Shinichi status became the only unknown because he is the only target that haven't been reported dead by the media (Newspaper, TV or Radio) but because of Sherry evil scheme, she confirm that Shinichi Kudo is dead.

Now after Sherry betray The Black Organization, the status of Shinichi's dead may be investigated again!

Prof Agasa and Haibara always tell Shinichi to keep his identity remain as a secret to Ran and others to ensure their safety. so every time shinichi solves a case, he always ask to the police or anyone that involves to make sure that his effort is not mentioned!
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- A Karaoke Box Murder Case - chapter 45 - 48
- The Desperate Revival Case - chapter 255 - 260
The Black Organization is an international organization! so they can have access to many secret data such as police database, school database, and immigration department!

The latest chapter (#743 above) is most likely canonical and importance in the Main storyline right? not only this is manga.. but also Aoyama already planed this case since long ago!
 
Now, base on this fact! Answer this question:
Why on earth Shinichi choose to reveal that he-Shinichi Kudo-is still alive and traveling from Tokyo to London using an Airplane?

Because he will used his passport, and when the BO check, they will know that Shinichi Kudo is still alive. What will stop them to come to Beika 2nd District No.21 to kill anyone who live there (Poor Akai Image) And it only a matter of time before they killed Kogoro Mouri and Ran too. Eri Kisaki and also Yusaku & Yukiko Kudo. The Beika 2nd District No.22 will be the target too and they will kill my beloved Ai-chan.

In the funeral, Ayumi, Mitsuhiko, Genta and Kobayashi sensei will come and the BO will track them and kill them too.

The Great detective from Osaka that often visit Mouri detective agency will be killed too along with his lover-Kazuha.

Takagi will killed too because he knows too much!. satou will suicide and then shiratori will follow to suicide because kobayashi is dead too.

so?

this passport will lead into an EPIC fail and Death!
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You are correct.
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Maybe BO's just your normal everyday Yakuza whose trying to look cool by wearing Black at all times..

That's why they were unable to monitor every watch list on their database...
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Abs. wrote: You are correct.
Image WOW!! Abs. agree with me!
Image guys.. Abs Agree with me! this is the first time..
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baka1412 wrote: Maybe BO's just your normal everyday Yakuza whose trying to look cool by wearing Black at all times..

That's why they were unable to monitor every watch list on their database...
you mean most of their member is just a temporary or part time member?
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xpon wrote:
baka1412 wrote: Maybe BO's just your normal everyday Yakuza whose trying to look cool by wearing Black at all times..

That's why they were unable to monitor every watch list on their database...
you mean most of their member is just a temporary or part time member?

Yeah, Chianty part timing as McDonalds employees of the month, Vermouth got her own manicure / pedicure shop, Vodka was toll taker, and Gin has his own doujinshi circle..
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really? i thought chianti was a band singer on the downtown side of tokyo.the punk rocker's domain.
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Akemi~chan wrote: really? i thought chianti was a band singer on the downtown side of tokyo.the punk rocker's domain.
yup. punk rock!



BACK To topic please!
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Maybe Shinichi thought they wouldn't bother with hacking and constantly monitoring the airline's database for people they reconfirmed as dead? They still seem to still think Shinichi is dead even though Shiho defected.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Maybe Shinichi thought they wouldn't bother with hacking and constantly monitoring the airline's database for people they reconfirmed as dead? They still seem to still think Shinichi is dead even though Shiho defected.
But he is taking an Unnecessary risk just to fulfil his EGO to go to Holmes country!

And please remember that the record will stay there! so when ever the BO or some organization want to check About Shinichi Kudo.. it will show!.

the record of passing person in immigration department is a crucial evidence in tracking international fugitives
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Abs. wrote: I still agree with xpon
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xpon wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Maybe Shinichi thought they wouldn't bother with hacking and constantly monitoring the airline's database for people they reconfirmed as dead? They still seem to still think Shinichi is dead even though Shiho defected.
But he is taking an Unnecessary risk just to fulfil his EGO to go to Holmes country!
And please remember that the record will stay there! so when ever the BO or some organization want to check About Shinichi Kudo.. it will show!.
the record of passing person in immigration department is a crucial evidence in tracking international fugitives
I can't argue with that.
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well.. this add another reason why i hate this arc!..

she became weepy girl! and now this... Ego > logic and love
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Maybe Shinichi thought they wouldn't bother with hacking and constantly monitoring the airline's database for people they reconfirmed as dead? They still seem to still think Shinichi is dead even though Shiho defected.
Are we sure that's still the case after 345?  Gin seemed vaguely interested in the idea that someone he killed may have come back.
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Yup, also there's Bourbon to worry about
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