Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

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How will Shinichi/Conan return to Japan? (stolen from baka1412)

Illegal ways (Document Forgery, "back-routes", bribing the officers, hijacking the plane, etc)
7
6%
Using his connection with the FBI's to sneak him out of the country.
7
6%
Agasa miraculously creates a Teleportation machine.
1
1%
Haibara send him another batch of antidote(s) (post/directly)
18
15%
Haibara entrusted back-up medicine to Jodie / Yukiko / FBI / she somehow got trustful friend out there (the mysterious lady on last file)
26
22%
Extra Terrestrial creatures help.
6
5%
He never returned to Japan again...
4
3%
He never returned to Conan again...
7
6%
He swim all the way across to Japan by sea..
5
4%
"Home Alone" reference; as a conan, he's tagging any unsuspecting adults during the last minutes before the plane take off, pretending to be their child.
5
4%
Asking for Japanese embassy help, hoping to get deported back to Japan..
3
3%
He'd get help from that pro tennis player eventually (for solving the case).. I don't know how she would pull some string though...
12
10%
Unexplainable Time Skip, the case finished, and we're suddenly back to Beika City the next day without explanation..
17
14%
 
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Dus wrote:If this is the case, then we're certainly in for a very long arc.
That's actually how it's described by Aoyama, in the beginning of File 743.  "A super long series"
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I don't think religion and the BO have anything to do with one another. The plot has had nothing to do with religion, nor have there been many (any?) references to religions other than typical Japanese Buddhism and Shintoism. If religion has a part in this, it's probably only for this case.

I also don't think the Syndicate has anything to do with this case. It isn't their style to publicly announce themselves and reveal one of their operatives by handing out random sheets of code to children all over London. If anything non-romance plot related happens, it's going to be on the return trip to Japan when Shinichi somehow winds up in a pickle with his passport/antidote wearing off too early/he drops it.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: I don't think religion and the BO have anything to do with one another. The plot has had nothing to do with religion, nor have there been many (any?) references to religions other than typical Japanese Buddhism and Shintoism. If religion has a part in this, it's probably only for this case.
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Abs. wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: I don't think religion and the BO have anything to do with one another. The plot has had nothing to do with religion, nor have there been many (any?) references to religions other than typical Japanese Buddhism and Shintoism. If religion has a part in this, it's probably only for this case.
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Fair enough, I forgot about that. What I really meant to say is there isn't something like a Da Vinci code going on.
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I'm reading the Book of Revelation right now and came across something that actually gave me the chills:
King James Bible: Revelation 8,11 wrote:And the name of the star is called Wormwood
You probably have no idea what I'm talking about so let me elaborate: I'm reading the German version and there it says:

Und der Name des Sterns heißt Wermut.
(And the name of the star is called Vermouth /wormwood)
Wermut is both the name of the plant and the spirit made from it (it's originally from Germany, vermouth is just the French spelling)

This passage is found when the seventh seal is about to be broken.

Could someone check whether the Japanese version allows for a similiar reading? Edit: 苦よもã
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: I don't think religion and the BO have anything to do with one another. The plot has had nothing to do with religion, nor have there been many (any?) references to religions other than typical Japanese Buddhism and Shintoism. If religion has a part in this, it's probably only for this case.
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Fair enough, I forgot about that. What I really meant to say is there isn't something like a Da Vinci code going on.
First off, Davinci Code is awesome,
2nd.... I'd hate it if this turn out to be a religious reference from the beginning..... I'm not Christian so I don't have those clues :-\ and besides Nagoya, I don't think Japan has large region where Christian is main religion... so I don't see why Gosho need to do that...
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Khinkhun wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: I don't think religion and the BO have anything to do with one another. The plot has had nothing to do with religion, nor have there been many (any?) references to religions other than typical Japanese Buddhism and Shintoism. If religion has a part in this, it's probably only for this case.
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Fair enough, I forgot about that. What I really meant to say is there isn't something like a Da Vinci code going on.
First off, Davinci Code is awesome,
2nd.... I'd hate it if this turn out to be a religious reference from the beginning..... I'm not Christian so I don't have those clues :-\
Nor are 99,9% of the Japanese population. Still, Christian mythology (yes, I just called the bible mythology) is fairly well-known around the globe, even if you're not Christian yourself.
And most Christian won't be able to tell you what's happening in the Apocalypse, either.
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Khinkhun wrote: First off, Davinci Code is awesome,
2nd.... I'd hate it if this turn out to be a religious reference from the beginning..... I'm not Christian so I don't have those clues :-\ and besides Nagoya, I don't think Japan has large region where Christian is main religion... so I don't see why Gosho need to do that...
Agreed, and I would dislike if the case is about Christianity, 'cuz most of the poeple doesn't get the real concept of things like this
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Dus wrote: I'm reading the Book of Revelation right now and came across something that actually gave me the chills:
King James Bible: Revelation 8,11 wrote:And the name of the star is called Wormwood
You probably have no idea what I'm talking about so let me elaborate: I'm reading the German version and there it says:

Und der Name des Sterns heißt Wermut.
(And the name of the star is called Vermouth /wormwood)
Wermut is both the name of the plant and the spirit made from it (it's originally from Germany, vermouth is just the French spelling)

This passage is found when the seventh seal is about to be broken.

Could someone check whether the Japanese version allows for a similiar reading? Edit: 苦よもã
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*facepalm*

Should have seen that coming.  Thanks HADAA
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It's only been 2 chapters and we're already like 31 pages here..

I'm sure it would provides a good laugh when the arc completes with a lame ending...
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Spoiler:
I've got some news about file 745, which will appear this wednesday. It looks like Shinichi will show up in it.

Here's a picture from that scene:
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Spoiler:
I've seen that scan as well. Here's some more:
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%C3%F7%C3%C0_%D6%BE%B1%A3_%DA%E4/pic/item/f0957d325d1df95debc4af82.jpg
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%C3%F7%C3%C0_%D6%BE%B1%A3_%DA%E4/pic/item/85e24eee433bc190b31cb182.jpg

I'm surpised that we're seeing Shinichi this early if it's supposed to be an XXXL arc. That would of course give Ai mor time to think of a way to bring Shinichi another pill.
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Dus wrote:
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I've seen that scan as well. Here's some more:
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%C3%F7%C3%C0_%D6%BE%B1%A3_%DA%E4/pic/item/f0957d325d1df95debc4af82.jpg
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%C3%F7%C3%C0_%D6%BE%B1%A3_%DA%E4/pic/item/85e24eee433bc190b31cb182.jpg

I'm surpised that we're seeing Shinichi this early if it's supposed to be an XXXL arc. That would of course give Ai mor time to think of a way to bring Shinichi another pill.
Spoiler:
Shinichi's head is smoking in the second picture (of him entering through the door).
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