Who else knows about Conan=Shinchi?

kudoshinchi · Post by **kudoshinchi** » March 27th, 2008, 3:17 pm

Well it just occurred to me but if Heiji has easily deduced Conan=Shinchi
in just one case then its a high probablity that

1] Kogoro[Conan's long time Guiny *Pig-Sorry for this] might know about this,as he is after all a detective,
but thinks that this is ok as long as Conan helps Ran to get out of trouble.

2]Same applies for Eri, as she has watched both Ran and Shinchi grow together and being a good observer

3]As for Sonoko nothing is clear but i think she knows but refrains from telling the truth to
Ran,as being a her good friend or something else

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4]Akai Shuichi,though never discussed but do you think he knows about this point,
as of the many episodes shown he refers to him as "Boya=Boy",with a great detective ability
and Jodie Sensai has not told anyone else on Conan request.

dilbertschalter · Post by **dilbertschalter** » March 27th, 2008, 3:41 pm

You forgot Vermouth. As for Kogoro, I have long been suspicious that he knows exactly what is happening and he simply is using Shinichi's ability to further his career.

x64_02 · Post by **x64_02** » March 27th, 2008, 3:44 pm

Kogoro is MUCH more intelligent in the movies and perhaps he is smarter later than he was when the show started. Because of this dichotomy, Kogoro may be capable or not of figuring out this secret; he definitely would not have been able to at the beginning of the show. (Much the same as Joey on Friends starts the show as intelligent and later is depicted as a moron.)

Eri would be able to figure out the secret if it were not for the scientific impossiblity that the transformation is. The most she would think is that he is a very similar child to Shinichi and perhaps a relative. (just as how any of us would react if we saw a kid who looked like someone we know when they were young, we wouldn't deduce, "I bet that is them shrunk by a drug developed by a malevolent secret organization") ie. The simplest answer is the most logical.

Sonoko couldn't sit on a secret like that. Even if she could from Ran, she would torment Conan about it.

Akai might know. Anime SPOILER ALERT*********. He quickly shot down the idea that Conan use Agasa and his car for the mission in Clash of Red and Black. This would be in tune with him knowing about Haibara and her connection to Agasa. (or it could have been that he had a better plan, which he did) His connection to Haibara and any possible knowledge he has about her would lead him to know about the Aptoxin that caused the transformation and Conan. There are several avenues through which he could discover Conan's secret.

kudoshinchi · Post by **kudoshinchi** » March 27th, 2008, 3:44 pm

Well we all know that Vermout Knows it hence i have excluded her off the list
as this list is for those who have not been shown to know about Shinchi

dilbertschalter · Post by **dilbertschalter** » March 27th, 2008, 4:03 pm

Kogoro is MUCH more intelligent in the movies and perhaps he is smarter later than he was when the show started. Because of this dichotomy, Kogoro may be capable or not of figuring out this secret; he definitely would not have been able to at the beginning of the show.

Well, he is a buffoon at the beginning of the show and a decent detective currently. In the movies he is perhaps even a slightly above average detective (movie 9 especially).

thriceplus · Post by **thriceplus** » March 27th, 2008, 4:39 pm

Kogoro's intelligence has been quite the same IMO. He usually falls into the trap of the murderer. However, he can usually solve cases if they are connected to personal issues (Kogoro's friend reunion, Kogoro's choice). Kogoro, Eri, and Sonoko probably all don't know Conan's identity. They probably just think he's some smart kid that acts somewhat like Shinichi.

As for Akai, I don't think he knows that Conan is Shinichi. Well first, does he even know who Shinichi is? Unlike the case with Jodie, Akai is never revealed to have been studying Shinichi. Although it is likely that he knows that there is more to Conan than it appears, he probably does not know his identity. On the other hand, it is likely that he knows that Haibara is Shiho. The same probably applies with Jodie (knowing Haibara, but not Conan).

dilbertschalter · Post by **dilbertschalter** » March 27th, 2008, 5:02 pm

Kogoro's intelligence has been quite the same IMO. He usually falls into the trap of the murderer. However, he can usually solve cases if they are connected to personal issues (Kogoro's friend reunion, Kogoro's choice).

He still isn't as even close to good as Shinichi, but it feels to me like he falls for somewhat fewer traps (sometimes, he knows who the murderer is but simply can't prove it) and his deductions are a good bit better than they were at show's beginning.

GinRei · Post by **GinRei** » March 27th, 2008, 5:11 pm

The only difference between now and then, is that Kogoro jumps to fewer conclusions now. When the series started, as soon as the crime was stated he'd start accusing people. Now, he actually thinks it through a little more, and when he actually thinks it all the way through he can solve it.

Ebiyu-D · Post by **Ebiyu-D** » March 28th, 2008, 10:35 pm

Takagi surely knows that conan is not a normal kid.. but i dunno about knowing conan = shinichi...

If heiji easily deduced it... how about his father?

kudoshinchi · Post by **kudoshinchi** » March 29th, 2008, 4:39 am

Does someone think that somehow Gin knows this/not as he is a 'Black Org.' member $:-\$

Do you think that Rans still suspects ,after so many futile attempts,that Conan=Shinchi
and is waiting for him to confess

ShinRan36 · Post by **ShinRan36** » June 8th, 2009, 1:38 pm

reallyy I dont think that kogoro knows the true identity of conan. would he know that he never would allowe them to go to the bath together ^^

Misztina · Post by **Misztina** » June 8th, 2009, 2:15 pm

Me, me! I know about Conan=Shinichi. XD *silly*

kudoshinchi wrote: Does someone think that somehow Gin knows this/not as he is a 'Black Org.' member $:-\$

Me, me! I thought many times that this is the case, buuuuut I'm still not sure. There is no evidence or something that makes this 100% sure. The Dark Contact case from Volume 38 is pretty confusing. I'm 91% sure that Gin knew that a kid was there in that lock case, and Gin said: "...a fox as cunning as a detective". Now that a scary comment if you ask me. Gin... you are too cool.

Kite · Post by **Kite** » June 8th, 2009, 2:37 pm

Ebiyu-D wrote: Takagi surely knows that conan is not a normal kid.. but i dunno about knowing conan = shinichi...

yeah well, if that police force ever thinks of comparing the fingerprints of Kudou and Conan's fingerprints on the mobile phone, Shinichi will be a goner.

About Okiya: there may be not much evidence, but he should certainly be very interested in the person known as Kudou Shinichi. He probably figured out that Shinichi is a highschool detective, unless he's so stupid to believe the "Kinichi" story Ran obviously made up (ch. 639 pp. 4-5 or http://www.dctp.ws/V61-Reader/V61-9Engl ... 39_005.png). How could the owner of the house, Shinichi, be a normal high schooler when he takes all his clothes, albums etc. with him and erases every trail of him ever having lived in that house, when he decides to suddenly "disappear"? And besides, in chapter 624 on page 15, Conan clearly says "Shinichi-niichan has gone missing all of a sudden" (http://www.dctp.ws/V60-Reader/V60-6Engl ... 24_015.jpg), but on the next page, he completely contradicts himself by saying he'll message Shinichi-niichan later to make sure he won't ask Subaru to leave (http://www.dctp.ws/V60-Reader/V60-6Engl ... 24_016.jpg). Did Conan make a serious mistake here or what?

takiko · Post by **takiko** » June 8th, 2009, 11:57 pm

as for eri, kogoro, sonoko, and takagi, i don't think they know... there might be some suspicions, but they were immediately erased in their minds...

kkslider5552000 · Post by **kkslider5552000** » June 9th, 2009, 12:00 am

considering how Conan is 100 percent realistic, thinking of unrealistic things happening (considering how APTX 4869 is the only unrealistic thing in this show) is pretty absurd. Agasa does some pretty absurd things however. And Ran knows Agasa well. Unlike those characters.

hey guys I figured out why Ran is more suspicious of Conan than lots of other characters! And I just figured it out while typing this.