Kindaichi vs Conan

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Actually, while you as a reader can pinpoint some weaknesses in Conan's deductions, Kindaichi is keener: you can never find an argument against his deductions!

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Try DK and tell me how it goes!

And I have tried the first 3 cases... on youtube (hope it doesn't go away for those who might be interested because I said something here...)

Kindaichi actually made mistakes and some were told to him quite explicitly.

Now for the actual review of the show:
It's much more gory and in ways disturbing compared to DC. The cases so far last for 3 episodes, which is similar to how DC do its detailed cases. But it's because of these things that Kindaichi has much more suspense than DC.
The plot is thin. It's based more on character than on the plot to drive the cases through, which is sometimes a drag to get through.

So, I like Kindaichi for the mystery (which the murderer/motive is sometimes unexpected), but I like DC for its wonderful plot (which is also unexpected).

[Girl19]

I love DC for its:
- wonderful mysteries
- amazing plot
- great character development
- awesome cultural information (it actually made me love Japan, while before I wasn't even interested)
- many other stuff that don't come to my mind right now... lol

[TheBlind]

Actually, while you as a reader can pinpoint some weaknesses in Conan's deductions, Kindaichi is keener: you can never find an argument against his deductions!

[...]

Try DK and tell me how it goes!

And I have tried the first 3 cases... on youtube (hope it doesn't go away for those who might be interested because I said something here...)

Kindaichi actually made mistakes and some were told to him quite explicitly.

Now for the actual review of the show:
It's much more gory and in ways disturbing compared to DC. The cases so far last for 3 episodes, which is similar to how DC do its detailed cases. But it's because of these things that Kindaichi has much more suspense than DC.
The plot is thin. It's based more on character than on the plot to drive the cases through, which is sometimes a drag to get through.

So, I like Kindaichi for the mystery (which the murderer/motive is sometimes unexpected), but I like DC for its wonderful plot (which is also unexpected).

I also skimmed the first 3 episodes and maybe it's the time period when the anime was created, but the females don't seem very bright.

Spoiler:

Even one of the victims practically killed herself when she wasn't even in any immediate danger

It actually boarders on insulting..maybe this was just isolated to these three episodes, though.

[Tenken]

Regarding my comment on "Conan's weakness in deduction", I was supposed to mean "Gosho's plot holes".
Sorry for the confusion.

Kindaichi actually made mistakes and some were told to him quite explicitly.

I interpret it a different way: the fact that Kindaichi made mistakes shows a more human side of his.
Yet he managed to work them out at the end shows that he's not blind to his own weaknesses.

Spoiler:

Even one of the victims practically killed herself when she wasn't even in any immediate danger

It actually boarders on insulting..maybe this was just isolated to these three episodes, though.

Out of guilt, isn't it what past criminals/victims are prone to do?

I only read DK manga so I don't know if the anime followed the manga neatly.

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I believe that if any detective manga can ever beat DC, or be compared to DC, KINDAICHI totally can.

To me, a keen DC fan should be able to see the series with all its good and bad sides. So be honest,

DC is only great at:

(1) its first 10 volumes or so (with cases like: Moonlight Sonata, Hamamoto Family, Night Baron, Akemi Miyano's case, Mansion of Terror, Art Museum Murder, Ten Seconds of Terror on the Shinkansen, Samurai Murder Case, Kiri Tengu Legend, Meeting in Microft . . . that completely captivated me!)

(2) Kaito KID arc (I'm a fan of KK),
(3) Mafia & FBI arc,
(4) compelling characterizations, and
(5) beautiful drawings

Besides those, other cases - especially in recent volumes - are not as nearly as interesting, no depth, no mood, with ridiculous motivations for crimes as well as pathetically dull crime-committing methods... = fillers ... which all gave me an impression that Gosho is running out of ideas. He should wrap up soon before they drag DC down further (like what happened to "Inuyasha" series).
I don't know about you, but since vol. 40, I've stopped reading cases that don't include points (2) or (3) because you-know-what.

[kkslider5552000]

Mafia

i stopped reading after this

although you are right about Conan having bad parts


I call those bad parts "most of the first 10 volumes and most later Heiji cases".

[kirite]

DC is only great at:

(1) its first 10 volumes or so (with cases like: Moonlight Sonata, Hamamoto Family, Night Baron, Akemi Miyano's case, Mansion of Terror, Art Museum Murder, Ten Seconds of Terror on the Shinkansen, Samurai Murder Case, Kiri Tengu Legend, Meeting in Microft . . . that completely captivated me!)

(2) Kaito KID arc (I'm a fan of KK),
(3) Mafia & FBI arc,
(4) compelling characterizations, and
(5) beautiful drawings

Besides those, other cases - especially in recent volumes - are not as nearly as interesting, no depth, no mood, with ridiculous motivations for crimes as well as pathetically dull crime-committing methods... = fillers ... which all gave me an impression that Gosho is running out of ideas. He should wrap up soon before they drag DC down further (like what happened to "Inuyasha" series).
I don't know about you, but since vol. 40, I've stopped reading cases that don't include points (2) or (3) because you-know-what.

I don't agree that ALL the best cases are in the first 10 volumes, but I do agree that the first 10 volumes are absolutely genius .  I find myself going back to them all the time <3. 

I love both Gosho's old drawing style and the recent ones. I love the warmth of Gosho's older lines, it allows more expression of emotions and silliness xD.  The recent lines are colder, but that makes the characters look more bishonen and bishojo (KID and Haibara both look great!).

I call those bad parts "most of the first 10 volumes and most later Heiji cases".

Psssshh.  Who gives a digit what you think?   

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[kumiko1996]

Conan is way better than Kindaichi.

Kindaichi doesn't even thought that the murderers will commit suicide or other circumstances.

Conan only let one culprit commit sucide the whole series and even tried to save that culprit.

Kindaichi only solves the case after 2-5 victims

While Conan solves the case after 1-3 victims

I think Conan's real rival is Kyu Renjo

[TheBlind]

Spoiler:

Even one of the victims practically killed herself when she wasn't even in any immediate danger

It actually boarders on insulting..maybe this was just isolated to these three episodes, though.
Out of guilt, isn't it what past criminals/victims are prone to do?

I only read DK manga so I don't know if the anime followed the manga neatly.

It must of not because there is no guilt involved in this(maybe you're thinking of a different case). The culprit actually tried to save the victim but she ended up killing herself for unnecessary turning the situation into a physical one,forgetting she was near a dangerous place, and acting foolishly in a situation where the culprit didn't impose any immediate danger to her(he just wanted to reason with her).

Also, this Kindaichi seems like a dick all around in the first three episodes. Calling his girlfriend "stupid but you have big breast", eating her lunch, and letting her go into a dangerous situation even after she asked for his help. But the worst part is that she lets him treat her like that and acts like it's normal. I'm not a feminist and like I said, it might be the early volumes influenced by the culture of the time but watching most high school girls being portrayed with the intellect of a 10 year olds would hurt the brain of even normal laid back guys, like myself.