Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

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How will Shinichi/Conan return to Japan? (stolen from baka1412)

Illegal ways (Document Forgery, "back-routes", bribing the officers, hijacking the plane, etc)
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Using his connection with the FBI's to sneak him out of the country.
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Agasa miraculously creates a Teleportation machine.
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Haibara send him another batch of antidote(s) (post/directly)
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Haibara entrusted back-up medicine to Jodie / Yukiko / FBI / she somehow got trustful friend out there (the mysterious lady on last file)
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Extra Terrestrial creatures help.
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He never returned to Japan again...
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He never returned to Conan again...
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He swim all the way across to Japan by sea..
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"Home Alone" reference; as a conan, he's tagging any unsuspecting adults during the last minutes before the plane take off, pretending to be their child.
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Asking for Japanese embassy help, hoping to get deported back to Japan..
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He'd get help from that pro tennis player eventually (for solving the case).. I don't know how she would pull some string though...
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Unexplainable Time Skip, the case finished, and we're suddenly back to Beika City the next day without explanation..
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The 2 Suspicions In File 743

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1) Old Lady Diana Kingston

The story begins with strawberry, then Kogoro discovered a cat, then Diana appeared immediately, that old lady had something suspicious?

She self-proclaimed a big fan of mysteries, it is strange that she invited Conan, Ran and Kogoro to UK just because they found her cat, even though maybe for sight-seeing, the higher probability is intentionally invited a detective to solve a case after knowing Kogoro is a detective.

She invited them to UK, but not waiting for them in an airport and arranged their meeting at night, why not meeting them in afternoon? Because she goes watching Wimbledon, that's why cannot meet Conan's party in afternoon. So that old lady had relationship to a case or she is cahoot with a man who sent a strange paper to Glass-kun?


2) APTX4869

Why do Ai-chan want Agasa followed Conan to UK? Usually she afraid staying alone in Agasa's house since Okiya is in next door.

Why staying at Ayumi's house at this time? She's planning something while Conan in UK?

Ai-chan said an antidote's approximate duration of the effects lasted 24 hours and need Conan to calculate the time, but after Conan swallowed an antidote, the effects didn't gone and made Conan stayed in the restroom waiting for the effect gone. In the past, the duration of the effects always lasted less than 24 hours, but this time an antidote lasted longer than 24 hours?
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But wouldn't it be wiser to stay at Agasa's hous if she mistrusts Subaru? He can search the house when there's no one home
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Dus wrote: But wouldn't it be wiser to stay at Agasa's hous if she mistrusts Subaru? He can search the house when there's no one home
yeah,that's true
but Haibara is kinda paranoid so I guess she has hidden all the informations about her and her work somewhere,before leaving the house...
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If he's from the BO he's gonna find them.
Either she is not staying at Ayumi's (Which would be a rather pointless lie) or she trusts Conan's judgement on Subaru or she actually knows who he is.
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Re: The 2 Suspicions In File 743

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Well, about the old British lady - she's surely suspicious. It's not normal inviting total strangers to her country and paying all expenses for them. She could be
1) old freak - sometimes old people have weird ideas, it's always an explanation  ::)
2) from BO - cat, British etc.
3) Shinichi's mom - she likes to disguise, so it wouldn't be surprising  ;D
4) all of above options are wrong, it's just Gosho's fault, because he didn't have an idea how send the characters to the Europe  :-\

About the drug. We've discussed this issue with Misztina-chan lately. It's really weird, actually. Ai told Conan some time ago (Shiragami's Case) that after taking every pill, his body builds stronger resistance, so it's possible that he won't ever be able to get back his normal body. There only good explanation about the drug in London Case - maybe Ai made new, better drug. Don't know when, don't know how...  ::) But if it was the same drug like in Shiragami's Case, the effects of antidote would last less than 4 hours - that's too little to go from Tokio to London by the plane.
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Things we already figured out:
1.) Each REALLY evil bad guy has a cat on his womb
2.) Conan would protect Shiho(like the Vermouth Case), maybe a plan of Bourbon to get her, when she is alone.
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AICHAN wrote:
Dus wrote: But wouldn't it be wiser to stay at Agasa's hous if she mistrusts Subaru? He can search the house when there's no one home
yeah,that's true
but Haibara is kinda paranoid so I guess she has hidden all the informations about her and her work somewhere,before leaving the house...
Beside, it would not be the first time that the DBs and the Professor left over the weekend and left the house unguarded.
If Subaro wanted to search for something, he had already plenty of time to do so.

I think it is cute if she is staying with Ayumi. I mean, staying at a friends house is so... normal. I think it will be good for her.
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Have they left over night since Subaru moved in next door?
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Dus wrote: Have they left over night since Subaru moved in next door?
Ai doesn't do normal!
She might enjoy the Detective Boys' company but she'd never admit it.
Yes, they have. Something that comes to my mind immediately is their visit at the hot springs bath house. They stayed there over night so there was plenty of time for anyone getting into the house. Also, right in beginning after Okina moved in. when they traveled into the mountains and met that rich guy who died in an explosion of his car in his villa.
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Schillok wrote:
Dus wrote: Have they left over night since Subaru moved in next door?
Ai doesn't do normal!
She might enjoy the Detective Boys' company but she'd never admit it.
Yes, they have. Something that comes to my mind immediately is their visit at the hot springs bath house. They stayed there over night so there was plenty of time for anyone getting into the house. Also, right in beginning after Okina moved in. when they traveled into the mountains and met that rich guy who died in an explosion of his car in his villa.
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AICHAN wrote: wow finally the "London case"...
hmmm,there will be some Shinran developement,lucky Shinran fans^^
anyway,I hope we'll see Haibara,but I really doubt she will appear,except if Conan needs another pill or something like that...
I prefer a long BO serie,but I guess it's Shinichi's turn...
by the way,is it true that Haibara stays at Ayumi's home?i would love it if she stays at Agasa's home and investigate on Okiya,but I think she's too afraid of him to do that... ::)
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More significant than the APTX antidote lasting 30 minutes longer than 24 hours is the fact that Shinichi/Conan does not appear to have a cold.






...Why do we have 2 threads for this case?
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Abs. wrote: More significant than the APTX antidote lasting 30 minutes longer than 24 hours is the fact that Shinichi/Conan does not appear to have a cold.






...Why do we have 2 threads for this case?
Because it's sexy!

Well, okay, truthfully, I don't know. I just always wanted to say that line. ;D

I don't think she's a part of the org. if she is, then how could she know that Conan is really Shinichi? Unless Vermouth told her, I think that it's highly unlikely.
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I doubt this has BO in it at all. Maybe at the end but I think this is solely a Holmes thing.
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Re: The 2 Suspicions In File 743

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alicetama wrote:
Because it's sexy!

Well, okay, truthfully, I don't know. I just always wanted to say that line. ;D

I don't think she's a part of the org. if she is, then how could she know that Conan is really Shinichi? Unless Vermouth told her, I think that it's highly unlikely.
Because she is either Vermouth or Yukiko. Vermouth seems to be more likely. If it was Yukiko, it would have been easiert to tell Conan what this is all about. It's either a trap or she wants Conan to foil a plan of the BO.
Does anyone else think that boy looks a lot like Kazuki Kinukawa, the child actor from vol.39? (Slightly less Asian though)
It's just way too convenient that he would appear at the museum with such immaculate timing. And why would he suddenly start speaking Japanese if not to attract Conan's attention. It seems rather obvious the message was intended for him.

I'm fairly sure we're gonna get some BO action in this arc. The Clash of Red and Black was published ages ago and it just seems pointless to make such a massive arc when it's not plot-relevant.
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