Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

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How will Shinichi/Conan return to Japan? (stolen from baka1412)

Illegal ways (Document Forgery, "back-routes", bribing the officers, hijacking the plane, etc)
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Using his connection with the FBI's to sneak him out of the country.
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Agasa miraculously creates a Teleportation machine.
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Haibara send him another batch of antidote(s) (post/directly)
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Haibara entrusted back-up medicine to Jodie / Yukiko / FBI / she somehow got trustful friend out there (the mysterious lady on last file)
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Extra Terrestrial creatures help.
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He never returned to Japan again...
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He never returned to Conan again...
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He swim all the way across to Japan by sea..
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"Home Alone" reference; as a conan, he's tagging any unsuspecting adults during the last minutes before the plane take off, pretending to be their child.
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Asking for Japanese embassy help, hoping to get deported back to Japan..
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He'd get help from that pro tennis player eventually (for solving the case).. I don't know how she would pull some string though...
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Unexplainable Time Skip, the case finished, and we're suddenly back to Beika City the next day without explanation..
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I bet Conan used a pill for returning during staying in London since he always not listening to Ai-chan, maybe Agasa brings some extra pills secretly.

Since Conan-kun loves football too, why don't he tour Wembley Stadium or go to watch London Derby, Chelsea VS Arsenal. He may see superstars like Frank Lampard, Didier Drogba, Cesc Fabregas and others, since real-life football legends Roberto Baggio and Franz Beckenbauer are mentioned in the world of Detective Conan.
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When was Baggio mentioned?
It would probably be a problem drawing these celebrities in a manga. Conan also doesn't seem to be a fan of any European club in particular, just individual players, so Wembley staduim doesn't really mean anything to him.
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Wait they can take unnamed pills on a transcontinental flight?
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Not in their hand luggage they can't.
I have a hunch that woman might actually be Vermouth. Would be an explanation for the cat Itakura's diary mentioned.
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ProfParanoia wrote:
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Wait they can take unnamed pills on a transcontinental flight?
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Ah yea, i was wondering about that too.. How do you smuggle a weird pill and passing the custom ?
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The story in the newest file looks interesting, but also extremely stupid.
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1) The old lady thing - which British person will invite strangers to her country and pay everything fot them? The reason about her "detective" obsession is not normal. It really looks like a trap for me...or Gosho isn't that creative as we think.

2) Conan's excitement isn't surprising (we all know he's a little freak), but I don't know why Ai let him go with 2 pills. She knew that it's dangerous. Normally she would say to him: Too bad, you can't go, deal with it, I won't help you, because I know you will do something stupid. Btw how is it possible that new pills have a 24h duration, but the last time Shinichi stayed with his normal form only for less than 4 hours??

3) Ran and Shinichi's argument - completely nonsense. -_-' But it looks like there will be something about them, so I'm actually glad. :) I'm waiting for a great ShinxRan moment.

4) English people speaking Japanese - soooooo lame... Japanese isn't THAT popular language, so what the hell...?! Gosho's English is weird - "because it thrills me". Which normal child would say that? I like it, because it's exciting sound much better...
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Porbably the woman with the cat is the Boss and is was a trap from the BO. There was something with hearing a cat in 329.
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baka1412 wrote: At least we got the clues of the annoying timeline . . They're still on July !
That's the same as every other date in the series.  It's when the chapter either comes out or was worked on, and since we know Gosho took a break last month to do research, I'd say it's the latter.
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Ah yea, i was wondering about that too.. How do you smuggle a weird pill and passing the custom ?
You put it in an Advil bottle and use an Advil pill casing.
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Couldn't he just take the pills in his pockets? I never got my pockets checked before boarding a plane. They're just a couple of pills, not a bag full of them.
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Regarding the old lady, yeah, her attitude was suspicious. It's weird that Conan didn't see it that way. I also inmediatly thought of the BO and Itakura after seeing the cat, but that might be because we were just discussing about that fact. Also, it doesn't mean the old woman is Vermouth. As I stated in Chekhov's thread, we don't know if the woman with the cat on the phone was Vermouth or not.
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Dashin wrote: Couldn't he just take the pills in his pockets? I never got my pockets checked before boarding a plane. They're just a couple of pills, not a bag full of them.
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Regarding the old lady, yeah, her attitude was suspicious. It's weird that Conan didn't see it that way. I also inmediatly thought of the BO and Itakura after seeing the cat, but that might be because we were just discussing about that fact. Also, it doesn't mean the old woman is Vermouth. As I stated in Chekhov's thread, we don't know if the woman with the cat on the phone was Vermouth or not.
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I don't think anyone said she was Vermouth, the the drawing of the women suggested Vermouth :P when Itakura's diary was read. Though it's true the woman is either really stupid, or suspicious :P, but I can't believe Ai agreed to let him go.... I need an explanation to this, fast :P
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Khinkhun wrote: but I can't believe Ai agreed to let him go.... I need an explanation to this, fast :P
As if she could stop him outside of physically knocking him unconscious and binding him up in the basement.  At least this way Agasa can't get in trouble for forging a government ID.
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Dashin wrote:
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Regarding the old lady, yeah, her attitude was suspicious. It's weird that Conan didn't see it that way. I also inmediatly thought of the BO and Itakura after seeing the cat, but that might be because we were just discussing about that fact. Also, it doesn't mean the old woman is Vermouth. As I stated in Chekhov's thread, we don't know if the woman with the cat on the phone was Vermouth or not.
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Well, it might be a trap by the BO, or Vermouth wants to bring him to London on her own agenda, so that he can foil the plans of the BO. There aren't many people who can disguise themselves successfully in DC, Kairo Kid wouldn't make sense nor would Yukiko. And if she's Vermouth, then this cat might be Chekhov's gun finally going off.
It's still too early to tell, but I'm fairly sure both this woman and Ai are up to something. I mean, come on, Ai suggests that Shinichi take a pill? She is the voice of reason and then she lets Shinichi take such a huge risk with no good reason?Doesn't make sense.Maybe she's staying at the Yoshidas' because she wants to nick Ayumi's passport. She definitely needs one if she wants to go to the UK.
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Dashin wrote: Couldn't he just take the pills in his pockets? I never got my pockets checked before boarding a plane. They're just a couple of pills, not a bag full of them.
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Regarding the old lady, yeah, her attitude was suspicious. It's weird that Conan didn't see it that way. I also inmediatly thought of the BO and Itakura after seeing the cat, but that might be because we were just discussing about that fact. Also, it doesn't mean the old woman is Vermouth. As I stated in Chekhov's thread, we don't know if the woman with the cat on the phone was Vermouth or not.
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It's actually weird that absolutely NOBODY thought that it's suspicious. Especially Ai! Everybody thought that it was sooooo normal that strange old woman invites strangers to her house, because she was so thankful of finding her cat. :/ I guess it's kind of trap - either planned by BO or Shinichi's parents - OR Gosho just didn't have any better ideas how send main characters to Europe.
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I'd give him an idea. Kogoro could have actually worked on finding the cat, and not just happen to be were the cat run off to (the woman seemed to come out of the toilet, so it appears the cat didn't run off that far, either).

Regarding Ai, well... aside from the fact that the invitation was suspicious, there's no fundamental risk in going to London, so she shouldn't be worried, except if she knew something was going on with the BO, there. On top of that, Conan looked so excited that she might have wanted to let him go. What's weird is the fact that she never let Conan turn into Shinichi just because. The first time was because Ran seemed to have found out about him, but I can't remember why she gave him the pills during the shiragami arc.
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Dashin wrote:
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I'd give him an idea. Kogoro could have actually worked on finding the cat, and not just happen to be were the cat run off to (the woman seemed to come out of the toilet, so it appears the cat didn't run off that far, either).

Regarding Ai, well... aside from the fact that the invitation was suspicious, there's no fundamental risk in going to London, so she shouldn't be worried, except if she knew something was going on with the BO, there. On top of that, Conan looked so excited that she might have wanted to let him go. What's weird is the fact that she never let Conan turn into Shinichi just because. The first time was because Ran seemed to have found out about him, but I can't remember why she gave him the pills during the shiragami arc.
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I like your idea about cat, but I guess Kogoro now has soo huge ego that he won't ever accept that kind of case to solve. Maybe if she paid him a lot of money...but then why she would invite them to her house anyway??

Ai always gave Conan pills only when it was necessary. In Shiragami case Conan got a pill from Agasa, who invented drug against flu or something like that. Unfortunately it was Ai's drug. Second pill Ai gave Conan just because she wanted him to go back to his house safely without making other people suspicious. It's reasonable.

This case is really weird. I hope Gosho will explain everything later.
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