Just questions i'm confused with

[kumiko1996]

Is Vermouth one of the good guys or bad guys????

Why didn't she tell the organization about Conan being Shinichi????

If she took the APTX, then the organization will know. If the organization knows that it makes people younger, why did they fed it to Shinichi???

Do Vermouth want the organization to be destroyed???? I think she 's hoping for a silver bullet

Is the organization that shrunk Shinichi and the one that killed Kaito's father the same?????

If that's so why do they look for the "gem of immortality" if they created a drug that can make them younger?????

Answer some if you can...

[Sayumi]

Okay I'll try...

Is Vermouth one of the good guys or bad guys????
Why didn't she tell the organization about Conan being Shinichi????

She is a member of the BO and one of the bad guys , but she wants to protect Shinichi/Conan and Ran because Ran saved her life before (New York case, manga:volume 34, anime episode:286-288)

If she took the APTX, then the organization will know. If the organization knows that it makes people younger, why did they fed it to Shinichi???

We don't know if she took APTX, it is just a theory why she doesn't seem to age (because of Vermouth=Chris Vineyard=Sharon Vineyard-> Head to head match with the BO;I think it was volume 42 of the manga and episode 345 for the anime).
The APTX is normally used by the BO to kill people without leaving any signs of poison and the "making people younger" thing is just a rarely occuring thing (we don't know why and to who that happens) and besides Vermouth (who knows that Shinichi=Conan, but keeps it to herself) and Pisco (who is dead) no BO members know about it. Gin gave it to Shinichi because he wanted to kill him after he watched a Gin & Vodka blackmailing someone.

Is the organization that shrunk Shinichi and the one that killed Kaito's father the same?

It is possible but we don't know for sure. The organisations seem to be quite similar->killing people without leaving any evidence behind, looking for immortality...

If that's so why do they look for the "gem of immortality" if they created a drug that can make them younger?

Again, besides Vermouth none of the BO members know about the side effects APTX can have (and because it still kills most people who take it, it wouldn't be a good idea to try taking it anyway). The original plan behind APTX was to make people immortal, but it was never finished (Ai's parents were killed and Ai left). But the BO found out that they can use it for execution purposes (not knowing about the possible side effects because they never finished the tests). Since they never knew if they would finish APTX it would make sense for them to look for other ways to make themselves immortal (if the Magis Kaito and the DC organisation are the same).

[Rellik]

nah instead of all this immortality thing, i think gosho will find a very clever way to show how vermouth can be both sharon and chris vineyard witout aging

[kumiko1996]

[glow=red,2,300]But isn't it likely that Vermouth took the APTX?????

What do you think makes Vermouth younger or the same age as she was 20 years ago????

Even though Shinichi and Ran saved her, isn't her loyalty to the organization much more important than her life?????

Have any theories???

[Kite]

Let me correct some mistakes, since they were created by rumours and are not actual facts ...

Is the organization that shrunk Shinichi and the one that killed Kaito's father the same?

It is possible but we don't know for sure. The organisations seem to be quite similar->killing people without leaving any evidence behind, looking for immortality...

we only know that the organization in Magic Kaito managed to kill Kaito's father without raising any suspicions. They certainly are capable of killing people, but it's not clear whether they are known to the police (thus leaving evidence behind with their actions) or not. They do look for Pandora's Gem, the thing they believe will grant immortality. Mostly, the same persons keep reappearing 'though, so it seems to be a rather small organization.
But the organization in Detective Conan seems better organized and more experienced with more dangerous tasks. They also seem to be bigger and are active on an international level. THEY are the ones who truly are able to make people disappear without a trace (thanks to the apotoxin, and their utter secrecy). But they are not looking for immortality as far as I know, they never mentioned something about that. We don't even know what the true purpose was for the apotoxin, it could be it really was just a drug to kill people without leaving evidence, but recently showed strange side effects on Kudou Shinichi and Shiho Miyano.

In my opinion, the organization in magic kaito can either be an independant, small organization (which is probably the case if Gosho decides to continue Magic Kaito after Detective Conan), or a branch organization of the one in Detective Conan. Most people probably hope for the latter, because that way Kaitou Kid and Conan certainly will end up helping each other. But it's still possible they will cooperate in the first case, because Conan could use some fast fingers to snatch a sample of apotoxin from the BO. I personally hope to see both organizations become rivals, it would be nice to see an all-out gang war, while they still need to do anything they can to stay secretive. Only probem here is of course that Magic Kaito's organization seems to be waaaaaay smaller that Detective Conan's, but maybe that's because Magic Kaito's manga hasn't been going on very long yet. But it will probably not happen anyway. The BO is the enemy in Detective Conan, and the grey organization is the enemy in Magic Kaito, so I believe the most that will happen is that Kaitou Kid will lend a hand to Conan for I-don't-know-what-reason.

If that's so why do they look for the "gem of immortality" if they created a drug that can make them younger?

Again, besides Vermouth none of the BO members know about the side effects APTX can have (and because it still kills most people who take it, it wouldn't be a good idea to try taking it anyway). The original plan behind APTX was to make people immortal, but it was never finished (Ai's parents were killed and Ai left). But the BO found out that they can use it for execution purposes (not knowing about the possible side effects because they never finished the tests). Since they never knew if they would finish APTX it would make sense for them to look for other ways to make themselves immortal (if the Magis Kaito and the DC organisation are the same).

We don't know the original plan behind APTX. Immortality is only a rumour, with Vermouth staying so young and the goal of Magic kaito's organization and all that. Besides, for a down-to-earth manga like Detective Conan, where everything can be explained (in contrast with Magic Kaito), I think it would be weird if that was truly their goal. I actually think of such an organization as a company, which has a goal, a mission, other ogranization-related definitions, and of course projects to complete. I believe the APTX was such a project in the research department.
Anyway, I believe the core of the reason why has been explained by Sayumi. They simply didn't know about the side effects, and even if they discovered it, they wouldn't use it because of the high risk of killing yourself. They probably would search into it deeper and test it on test subject, and stop using it for killing purposes because of the risk of victims surviving the drug. The gem seems to be guaranteed to give immortality, the drug could still take years before it becomes an effective immortality drug. Which would you choose? The one you'll get immortality from within a short time (gem), or the one which could take years, if it even ever will be able to give immortality (no guarantees for the drug anyway)?

Anyway, I've been rambling on long enough, I certainly need to learn to make shorter texts >_<

By the way, kumiko1996, could you please stop using that red and blue in your texts? It hurts my eyes 

[Sayumi]

But they are not looking for immortality as far as I know, they never mentioned something about that. We don't even know what the true purpose was for the apotoxin, it could be it really was just a drug to kill people without leaving evidence, but recently showed strange side effects on Kudou Shinichi and Shiho Miyano.

nahhh... I think it's for sure that the BO is looking for immortality- remember the diary thing conan read? The one about raising the dead against the stream of time? Sounds pretty much like immortality. I wasn't 100% sure about this as well but...

We already know the BO are attempting to obtain immortality.  We've known that for a while, and it was the initial intention of APTX4869 before it was discovered to be a potent method of murder.

That's something Ginrei wrote a while back in a discussion about the Mermaid case (http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=924.0). As far as I know GinRei is normally right if he states something like this, so I think we can go with that...

But isn't it likely that Vermouth took the APTX?????
What do you think makes Vermouth younger or the same age as she was 20 years ago????
Even though Shinichi and Ran saved her, isn't her loyalty to the organization much more important than her life?????
Have any theories???

I don't really think Vermouth took the APTX, but that's just me.... don't really know why she doesn't age- I hope Gosho will come up with a good explanation.
Vermouth is totally loyal to the BO at the moment but I think she somehow also wants the BO to be destroyed by Shinichi (remembers her always talting about Silver Bullets...-is she suicidal ) Another reason why she would want to protect Shinichi would be that she was Yukikos best friend i think she actually liked her- guess she tried to seperate "work" and private life...-she talked really badly about Chris when she was Sharon-even though they are the same person (split personality ) Guess she doesn't really like what she is doing, but she won't quit. Maybe she's got motives for helping the BO we don't know about yet...