Chiba's Videotape Case (Files 741-742)

[Dus]

This is an actual possibility. I've theorized previously that Subaru is British and an acquaintance to the Miyanos (or rather his father was).
I would also love to see him and Shiho together.
Of course, if Subaru is Shuichi it'd be highly likely that they're childhood friends.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Ai is has a part British mother... Maybe Hakuba then? They might get along on the snark front but I don't see Ai liking Hakuba's arrogance. I don't mind the Ran-Shinichi-Shiho love triangle honestly. I just hopes she has the guts to confess her feelings at some point, even if they won't be returned.

This is an actual possibility. I've theorized previously that Subaru is British and an acquaintance to the Miyanos (or rather his father was).
I would also love to see him and Shiho together.
Of course, if Subaru is Shuichi it'd be highly likely that they're childhood friends.

I don't know about Shuuichi and Shiho being childhood fiends... They probably know each other well because of his relationship with Akemi. I have a feeling Shiho already knows who Okiya is, but she wouldn't react like she does if she came to trust him while in the Org.

[Dus]

Ai is has a part British mother... Maybe Hakuba then? They might get along on the snark front but I don't see Ai liking Hakuba's arrogance. I don't mind the Ran-Shinichi-Shiho love triangle honestly. I just hopes she has the guts to confess her feelings at some point, even if they won't be returned.

I simpy cannot see Ai stating her feelings so openly. Would be horribly ooc. She's mre the brooding type

I don't know about Shuuichi and Shiho being childhood fiends... They probably know each other well because of his relationship with Akemi. I have a feeling Shiho already knows who Okiya is, but she wouldn't react like she does if she came to trust him while in the Org.

Well, if Shuichi is Subaru this whole theory is nil and void, since this is just an alternative explanation for her getting the jitters when Subaru is around.
I do think Shiho and SHuichi must have known each other fairly well, maybe they even had an affair at some point. So maybe she has figured that out. In any case, she trusts Conan's judgement but is bitter about him not telling her everything.

I just noticed this thread is actually about something completely different.
@topic: I was very disappointed in the latest chapter. Not only did Gosho use the tried-and-truly-horrible childhood-friend theme again. (Westermarck effect? He should really try and learn a thing or two about psychology, his motives are just as embarassing), no he also recycled Shiratori's past of impressing the ladies with terrible corny commonplaces. And introduced a non-plot-related character at this stage, which makes me think where not as close to the end as file 741 actually suggested to me.

[Abs.]

Aoyama just needed some excuse to tell us that Chiba was 1) the youngest child, and 2) that he was well-loved by his parents.

Ergo, Chiba is Gin's brother. Or something.

It kind of fits with the "you can't break a bad habit" thing.

Also I still say Naeko the stalker is Bourbon 

[Akemi~chan]

i say naeko is in the BO

[Kor]

@topic: I was very disappointed in the latest chapter. Not only did Gosho use the tried-and-truly-horrible childhood-friend theme again. (Westermarck effect? He should really try and learn a thing or two about psychology, his motives are just as embarassing), no he also recycled Shiratori's past of impressing the ladies with terrible corny commonplaces. And introduced a non-plot-related character at this stage, which makes me think where not as close to the end as file 741 actually suggested to me.

I have a theory about that. Like Gosho, I'm a writer, and I'm aware of a terrible flaw that apparently many writers have - we LOVE what we write. However, do the people who read what we write, also feel the same way? Here is the problem, if we don't get criticized every once in a while, we might get on a bad road. Another thing I have noticed about myself is that there is a certain plot-idea which I simply adore, and in every story that I write there is a chance I will use that idea. I'm aware of that problem, and in the novel I have just finished writing (at the first draft) the idea appeared numerous times throughout the story and was repititive. I personally had a big story in mind, which is why I thought "oh well, it can't be THAT bad if this idea appears so often, right?" but then later, the person who edited my book told me plainly that this was not a good way to go, and I know that person was right, so I decided to rewrite 3/4 of the story, and it turned to be much better.
What I'm saying is, that we know Gosho can do other approaches with couples (takagi/satou), however I don't believe he wants to. To me it's evidant that this childhood friends theme is his favorite concept and that he will use it for 90% of all the couples. This leads me to believe that in the last 15 years, NO ONE has ever criticized him on what he writes (in a proper way). I can partly see why. DC is (I think) the most popular in Shohnen-Sunday and DC is one of the longest anime in history which gets high ratings. DC is basically giving tons of money for some people, so if the concept works so well, no one really needs to say Gosho that what he's doing is wrong. If anything, he might be told that what he's doing is right, since it works so well.
I think though that there is a line. If a writer's work doesn't get criticized every now and then by a professional and point out some flaws, the writer (due to popularity) might think that all of what he's doing is right, and that he can continue to do his thing.

I have also noticed another thing about Gosho. He doesn't really know how to work with "solved couples"
All the couples that are together now don't appear that much often anymore as a couple. Gosho even partly delivers us the idea, that once you've become boyfriend-girlfriend, there are no more problems in your relationship and everything will be alright, and we don't need to see anymore of that relationship. I personally don't want to see anymore about Takagi and Satou's relationship because after so many cases with no development, I've really gotten tired of that couple. But I believe that part of the reason why Gosho doesn't conclude other couples (such as Heiji/Kazuha and Eri/Mouri) is because he doesn't know how to work with concluded couples - he doesn't know what to write when the characters are in a relationship.
We have a very good example about that actually. Shinichi's parents are a solved couple, BUT we've only got very few incidents of seeing them together. In episode 96, Yukiko comes alone because she "had a fight with Yusaku" - basically, in order to use the Yukiko/Yusaku couple, Gosho had to "break them apart" just so he can use them.

These are all assumptions here, so I might be wrong of course.

[Dus]

I think that this is less Gosho's fault than it is a trait of the Japanese society. The Japanese fans don't seem to mind as much as we do because if they did they would write to him about it and if lots of people did that, he would probably tone it down.
To me it seems as if the Japanese are still somewhat prude in that aspect. It is hard to portray people developping or even showing a sexual attraction to each other (unless it's played for laughs). If they're childhood friends it's completely unclear WHEN this attraction developped and it can be shown as puppy love more than anything. The fact that Ai is the only person to develop feelings for someone when they're already basically adults and she's a Westerner (grown up in the States). Arguably one might say that Takagi also developped feelings for Sato when they were both adults. But when she's introduced Takagi is already crushing on her.

This might also be something to do that DC is aiming for a young demographic. Young girls like to think "when I grow up I'm gonna marry that boy" but that is a completely asexual attraction. So basically Gosho is trying to show a romantisized version of relationship and to completely ignore the sexual aspects.

Also congrats on being a published writer. What are you writing? Crime fiction?

[Kor]

Also congrats on being a published writer. What are you writing? Crime fiction?

lol, I'm not published just yet, but that's in development (I already have an agent).

[Akemi~chan]

nice Kor. welcome to the team *is a writer too*

[Detective Prince]

I hope Haibara doesn't have a childhood friend. Her not having one just further shows how different she is from everyone and that is what we like about her. Doubt she had one anyways she'd probably be more friendly then. I think the DB is her "childhood" friends now. I hope Gosho is trying to make a love triangle with ShinichiXRanXShiho that would be epic. I think that would bring more suspense and comedy into the romance part of the manga.

[Dus]

The thing about the DBs being her childhood friends is actually very insightful. She is portrayed as someone who has never had a childhood previously so introducing a childhood friend would completely ruin her character.

Spoiler:

Gosho might still do it...

[Eve]

The thing about the DBs being her childhood friends is actually very insightful. She is portrayed as someone who has never had a childhood previously so introducing a childhood friend would completely ruin her character.

Spoiler:

Gosho might still do it...

I'm threatening him:

[Dus]

Look at that evil grin!
If he isn't a homocidal child rapist, who is?

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I'm impressed a 2 file case can have a 10 page discussion. Even ignoring the extra 5 page locked topic, it beat out the demon dog case which had 7 chapters.

[Eve]

I'm impressed a 2 file case can have a 10 page discussion. Even ignoring the extra 5 page locked topic, it beat out the demon dog case which had 7 chapters.

LOL.... most of which were hate posts, shows how hatred is more interesting than boredom