BO

[Midair walker]

Do you think DC's BO it's the same organization that killed Kaito's father?
Do you think Kaitou Kid will help to take down DC's BO?

[Aluecard]

yai think its the same one that killd him for sure

[Midair walker]

So you think aitou Kid will help Conan to take them down? He will appear in the very end of DC??

[Solera]

We don't really know it for sure because in Magic Kaito they didn't say anything about the Black Organization.

It could be possible that it is the B.O. but the ones after Kaitou Kid are in one branch-- which have animal based names, I.e. Snake[Yeh I know, I read some of it on FFnet]-- and is different from the main branch-- the ones with alcoholic based names.

Well if that were the case[DC's BO is the same with MK's] then I think Kaito will help Conan in taking them down.

[kirite]

I don't think it's the Black org, thought I have a theory that they're aiming for the same thing.

Let's say Black Org is aiming for immortality per say. B.O spends money to recruit scientist to create possible drugs (and seem to have succeeded).  In MK however the main villians (let's say White org) focuses on the magic of immortality, spending money to hire thieves and magicians to find a stone that bleeds tears of immortality. 

So I think even though aiming for the same thing, they way they achieve it is very different ^^.   

[VideoFan9864]

I don't think it's the Black org, thought I have a theory that they're aiming for the same thing.

Let's say Black Org is aiming for immortality per say. B.O spends money to recruit scientist to create possible drugs (and seem to have succeeded).  In MK however the main villians (let's say White org) focuses on the magic of immortality, spending money to hire thieves and magicians to find a stone that bleeds tears of immortality. 

So I think even though aiming for the same thing, they way they achieve it is very different ^^.   

Maybe its a diff division. If both are the same org then Kaitou's side aims to steal ways for immortality and at the same time conan's side aims at making one. After all BO does not know yet that they have suceeded in immortality since Haibara nor vermouth disclosed the info about the drug

[meowshk]

I agree with Kirite about the two groups being different (although I hope I'm wrong.) The points behind that is that the Magic Kaito one, as mentioned before, uses animal codenames such as Snake while the BO uses alcohol names such as Gin. Also, when Snake first appeared he had lackies behind him dressed in light clothes while the BO doesn't seem to use large groups like that in order to reduce chances of being noticed, plus all of their field operatives wear black. Also, the one in Magic Kaito doesn't exactly seem to be as skillful as the BO considering they almost get caught because of Kid and start panicking as a result while the BO members always stay calm in tough situations. The objectives that they have, I believe are similar if they are different groups. The group in Magic Kaito seems to be after immortality using Pandora, but it's hinted that the BO, is after resurrection because of something Vermouth said: "We may be considered both God and the Devil, trying to revive the dead." If that's the case, I believe they may be the same group and I believe I know they're objective. Since Shinichi appeared in Magic Kaito, it's known that the recent chapters took place at least a day or so before the beginning of Detective Conan. It was a while into the series that it was first hinted about they're objectives (seriously, does anyone know how much time has passed in that series? It's got to have been at least a year by now.) If that's the case and they are the same group, then it's possible that the leader was trying to get immortality not just for himself, but for someone else, possibly his wife or something who may have been very ill. According to my theory though, it seems the person may have died without them getting Pandora so now they're researching a way to bring back the dead. That hints at them being the same group and if that's the case, I just think that Gosho Aoyama simply decided to change some of the design choices for the group between Magic Kaito and Detective Conan.

[SkyVenger]

I have a hunch that Gosho will make them one, even if it was originally not. Due to the rapid increase of DC popularity when the first manga was released, he had to end Magic Kaito (it was really abrupt, obviously). Of course, fans would miss their favorite thief, so he mixed Kaitou Kid in the DC plot. If you ask me as a writer, wouldn't it be nice if the BO and the org in MK are the same? It spices up the story and it arouses newer questions like "Why was the original Kid killed by the BO?".

I also have assumption that at one point in the story Conan and Kid will figure out each other's identity. By then, Conan will have a perfect alibi that he is not Shinichi.

[kkslider5552000]

I'll be surprised if it isn't the same organization.

But it wouldn't the first time I've been surprised by this anime. (hi episode 345!)

[akai-kun]

Well,well,well...

The BO and the organization in Magic Kaito aren't the same organization.
You see: 1)DC: black , alcoholic names
                MK: grey/brown , animal names !

[x64_02]

They may be different organizations.  The animal names group may have evolved into the alcohol names group.  Either way, we know that the original KID did have contact with the BO, if indirectly.  At the beginning of the NY case, Sharon Vineyard is described to have studied with Yukiko when Yukiko learned the art of disguise from a magician.  Isn't that magician, the original KID?  That would make Vermouth either the Plato or Aristotle (depending on whether you believe Sharon and Chris are different people) to Papa KID's Socrates.

[Yoshimi Kurosaki]

Well, just because they have different names doesn't necessarily deem them separate organizations. We're seeing all kinds of co-op in DC. There's the FBI-CIA (somewhat) co-op and the Shinichi-Hattori co-op (the whole east-west thing) so maybe there is another organization that is helping the BO? (theory only)

But then again, the chances of two all-powerful organizations in the world, after the same thing yet not at war is pretty slim...

[eajy]

bt i would like to c kaito n shinichi co-operate^^

[ccppfan]

Well, just because they have different names doesn't necessarily deem them separate organizations. We're seeing all kinds of co-op in DC. There's the FBI-CIA (somewhat) co-op and the Shinichi-Hattori co-op (the whole east-west thing) so maybe there is another organization that is helping the BO? (theory only)

But then again, the chances of two all-powerful organizations in the world, after the same thing yet not at war is pretty slim...

It's possible. Like maybe one time the Black Org met that other group (found out to be called The White Org), and they started a fight. The leaders wanted to stop the fight before anyone found out, so they agreed to work together. When seperate, they're called the Black Org and the White Org; when together they're called the Grey Org. XD (Black+White=Grey) Could make sense.

[prince.ngoc]

Making them into one would take out the logical part of Conan. Detective Conan is a *detective* series - so things should be based on logic (in this case, + some acceptable fantasy - eg: the gadgets, APTX, etc...). But I think if Gosho mentions things like "jewels that cry tears of immortality"... that's a bit too far-fetched.