Mafia Game Round 7 (BO Wins)

[Akonyl]

Another thing...

Remember, if you noticed anything that might need an improvement, please post it in the Mafia Suggestion Thread.
Because to me this game seemed like it had been quite fair.
Aside from the 4 BO VS 8 townies-ratio (1:3 ratio of BO against total number of players). I think it became quite evident that the number of BO should never go above this ratio, especially with the improvements the BO gained. On the other hand the BO played well (at least it seemed that way) so they deserved their victory. Still, with only 3 BO it might have been a bit more fair...


Yeah, I guess pofa will be the next GM. So he can set up a new thread, run the recruitment for more players for a bit and then do the preparations during the weekend so we can start soon.   

maybe, but also remember that a lot of the game is based on luck-based factors (what roles are in the game, who gets what role, sonoko being BFFs with a detective boy, who is a lover with someone else, doing the right actions to the right person at the right time), almost none of which went in the town's favor this game.

[Schillok]

maybe, but also remember that a lot of the game is based on luck-based factors (what roles are in the game, who gets what role, sonoko being BFFs with a detective boy, who is a lover with someone else, doing the right actions to the right person at the right time), almost none of which went in the town's favor this game.

Well, lovers are a double-edged sword - aside from the chance that they might lead to the formation of a BO-town love pair (which we did not have in any game yet, right?) or the slight chance of BO-BO lovers which could be killed with a single lynch voting it cold also lead to a double kill in favor of the BO (Like during game 6, right at the beginning...  ).
I already suggested that the Detective Boys can not be lovers (As adorable and possible Conan x Ayumi or Haibara x Mitsuhiko are, the vast number of pairings involving them is... well, creepy.) or being befriended by Sonoko (She doesn't really seem like the kind of girl who befriends small children. At least not as her best friend.).

But yeah, the set-up was quite dis-favoringly for town this time. Still, I think the BO was able to take over the game too quick. We wanted to delay the formation of alliances with the APTX. Not end the game so early.
I mean, due to the low number of protectors/healer, the high number of BO and their ability to stop an additional player from voting with Tequila the game was almost decided after the lynching of the first townie during day 2, right? And even in that case it would have needed the unity of almost the whole town to win the vote then. Which is just plain not possible - nor wanted - during day 2.

[Kleene Onigiri]

maybe, but also remember that a lot of the game is based on luck-based factors (what roles are in the game, who gets what role, sonoko being BFFs with a detective boy, who is a lover with someone else, doing the right actions to the right person at the right time), almost none of which went in the town's favor this game.

Well, lovers are a double-edged sword - aside from the chance that they might lead to the formation of a BO-town love pair (which we did not have in any game yet, right?) or the slight chance of BO-BO lovers which could be killed with a single lynch voting it cold also lead to a double kill in favor of the BO (Like during game 6, right at the beginning...  ).
I already suggested that the Detective Boys can not be lovers (As adorable and possible Conan x Ayumi or Haibara x Mitsuhiko are, the vast number of pairings involving them is... well, creepy.) or being befriended by Sonoko (She doesn't really seem like the kind of girl who befriends small children. At least not as her best friend.).

But yeah, the set-up was quite dis-favoringly for town this time. Still, I think the BO was able to take over the game too quick. We wanted to delay the formation of alliances with the APTX. Not end the game so early.
I mean, due to the low number of protectors/healer, the high number of BO and their ability to stop an additional player from voting with Tequila the game was almost decided after the lynching of the first townie during day 2, right? And even in that case it would have needed the unity of almost the whole town to win the vote then. Which is just plain not possible - nor wanted - during day 2.

There were 2 roles that could have stopped a killing at night. Agasa with his watch and eisuke. Eisuke could also have prevented Tequillas ability and almos succeded, but was tricked instead by Vodka xD So it was bad luck for the town.
Also, pofa got info on night 1 it seems? But didn't tell it. So if she said something about it in the thread, then most of the town would have voted for that person (who was akonyl afaik). So it would have been too much of a risk to go against voting for Akonyl. The BO would have to use some fake evidence to rescue Akonyl then, which would make that person suspicious of protecting Akonyl.


@pofa: You want to be GM for the next round?
[ ] yes  [ ] no

[pofa]

Yes, I'd like to mod the next round. I'll start a new thread today with a list of players. If anyone has any major complaints/suggestions for rule changes, put them in the Role Discussion thread. Otherwise, we'll start soon so we can get through the round before xpon/Akonyl/Ctu have to leave. Is 23:00 OK for the deadline? (-5 GMT) If not, what would be better?

(Kleene, I avoided giving a straight answer because (for some reason) I thought you didn't think you could mod round 9 and this was your last chance for a while. Looking back at the thread, you didn't say that, but if that's true, I'll wait and you can do it this time. Just let me know and you can take over the thread I make  ).

[nomemory]

Yes, I'd like to mod the next round. I'll start a new thread today with a list of players. If anyone has any major complaints/suggestions for rule changes, put them in the Role Discussion thread. Otherwise, we'll start soon so we can get through the round before xpon/Akonyl/Ctu have to leave. Is 23:00 OK for the deadline? (-5 GMT) If not, what would be better?

(Kleene, I avoided giving a straight answer because (for some reason) I thought you didn't think you could mod round 9 and this was your last chance for a while. Looking back at the thread, you didn't say that, but if that's true, I'll wait and you can do it this time. Just let me know and you can take over the thread I make  ).

I would prefer it was earlier, but maybe that's just me. Do you have summer time now btw?

[pofa]

Yes, but I have a thing I have to do in the evenings that keeps me busy from about 18:00-20:00. So to be safe, 21:00 is the earliest I could do it at night.

But like I said, I could go way earlier, like 15:00. Since I do have to get a few hours of sleep each night, it might be better to have a late afternoon or night deadline (for me, I mean) so I can answer people's questions during the day as the deadline gets closer.

[Detective Tommy]

YESSS!!! We about to start playing! 

[Kleene Onigiri]

I have time to mod. But if you want to mod, then you should do it :p Since you wanted first Well, I wanted to edit the rules a bit if you don't mind. Dunno if I really do that tho D:

Well, 23:00 would be 5:00 for me? But I managed to play with 4:00 deadline too ;p so I won't mind if the deadline is 5:00.
15:00 is better for me tho ;p

[Detective Tommy]

I can play from 3:00 - 10:00 EST..
But my state test and finals are this week and the followig week.
So I need to do some major studying.. ;/

[pofa]

OK. Since we've had 2 votes for "early," let's tentatively put the deadline at 15:00. And if there are no major rule changes, we'll start Friday (also subject to change).

@Kleene: Edit away, just let me know. If we run into rule problems we can push the start day back...or you can wait till you do it next round.  :)

[Akonyl]

Otherwise, we'll start soon so we can get through the round before xpon/Akonyl/Ctu have to leave. Is 23:00 OK for the deadline? (-5 GMT) If not, what would be better?

I would just like to point out that as far as "getting through the round before Akonyl has to leave", my job actually started yesterday.

So, I won't have all that much time to be online, but that won't be a huge problem unless I'm made a BO member (in which case I'll probably tell the GM to let someone in the BO vote for me if I don't send in my own vote). But anyway, that time's good for me because I'm in -4 GMT

[xpon]

waaaaaaaaaaa

15:00..

okay.... i got 3 in the morning.. ha ha ha

but its okay.. no problem... as long i can sending vote.

[Detective Tommy]

I'm a little confused on the length of the days/nights.

15:00 GMT (4:00 EST) is the time all the actions are told, right?
Like.. the GM post who died, what actions took place and etc?

So what time to what time is the "Day" where we try to kill a BO?
And what time to what time is the "Night" where the BO kills a town person?

[Akonyl]

I'm a little confused on the length of the days/nights.

15:00 GMT (4:00 EST) is the time all the actions are told, right?
Like.. the GM post who died, what actions took place and etc?

So what time to what time is the "Day" where we try to kill a BO?
And what time to what time is the "Night" where the BO kills a town person?

phases are 24 hours, so If prep phase starts friday 15:00, then night 1 starts saturday 15:00, day 1 starts sunday 15:00, night 2 starts monday 15:00, etc.

[xpon]

1 phase is similiear with 24 hours of real day + night.
so if
15:00 GMT 5 june 2001 is the start of night 1
15:00 GMT 6 june 2001 is the end of night 1 and start of day 1
15:00 GMT 7 june 2001 is the end of day 1 and start of night 2


PS: didnt see your post Akonyl.  he he he