Gin vs. Ran: Who is smarter?

[AICHAN]

Gin by far...

Ran, of course. Gin couldn't have guessed Conan's PIN password 8)

It was Shinichi's phone wasn't it?

And I'm sure it was such a test of her Intelligenceto figure out that SHERLOCK HOLMES FREAK's pin

How is Gin smarter "by far"? Not many characters solve cases without Conan's help or can parallel his thinking. Ran was one of them, so she's actually ahead of Haibara in practice (no, looking for a pattern on a map or recognizing the gender of a corpse aren't nearly as impressive as a multi-step deduction). Only reason I didn't put Ran ahead of Haibara was the same reason I put Eri ahead of Ran, back story asserted intelligence (no Harvard scholarships or wonder drug research for Ran yet).

so the murder case Haibara solved in vol 20-21 is nothing compared to the case of stealing food that Ran solved?great

[Conia]

Gin by far...

Ran, of course. Gin couldn't have guessed Conan's PIN password 8)

It was Shinichi's phone wasn't it?

And I'm sure it was such a test of her Intelligenceto figure out that SHERLOCK HOLMES FREAK's pin

How is Gin smarter "by far"? Not many characters solve cases without Conan's help or can parallel his thinking. Ran was one of them, so she's actually ahead of Haibara in practice (no, looking for a pattern on a map or recognizing the gender of a corpse aren't nearly as impressive as a multi-step deduction). Only reason I didn't put Ran ahead of Haibara was the same reason I put Eri ahead of Ran, back story asserted intelligence (no Harvard scholarships or wonder drug research for Ran yet).

so the murder case Haibara solved in vol 2o-21 is nothing compared to the case of stealing food that Ran solved?great

Every road takes us to Ran vs Haibara war

[Nyarl]

Gin by far...

Ran, of course. Gin couldn't have guessed Conan's PIN password 8)

It was Shinichi's phone wasn't it?

And I'm sure it was such a test of her Intelligenceto figure out that SHERLOCK HOLMES FREAK's pin

How is Gin smarter "by far"? Not many characters solve cases without Conan's help or can parallel his thinking. Ran was one of them, so she's actually ahead of Haibara in practice (no, looking for a pattern on a map or recognizing the gender of a corpse aren't nearly as impressive as a multi-step deduction). Only reason I didn't put Ran ahead of Haibara was the same reason I put Eri ahead of Ran, back story asserted intelligence (no Harvard scholarships or wonder drug research for Ran yet).

so the murder case Haibara solved in vol 2o-21 is nothing compared to the case of stealing food that Ran solved?great

So recognizing the old woman was a doppleganger after reading an explicit dying message warning of a doppleganger and identifying the gender of the corpse of the doppleganger's victim is more impressive logic than an actual multi-step deduction just because it involved murder  ?

[Detective Prince]

Gin by far...

Ran, of course. Gin couldn't have guessed Conan's PIN password 8)

It was Shinichi's phone wasn't it?

And I'm sure it was such a test of her Intelligenceto figure out that SHERLOCK HOLMES FREAK's pin

How is Gin smarter "by far"? Not many characters solve cases without Conan's help or can parallel his thinking. Ran was one of them, so she's actually ahead of Haibara in practice (no, looking for a pattern on a map or recognizing the gender of a corpse aren't nearly as impressive as a multi-step deduction). Only reason I didn't put Ran ahead of Haibara was the same reason I put Eri ahead of Ran, back story asserted intelligence (no Harvard scholarships or wonder drug research for Ran yet).

Are you really using that easy case as an example? wow... Even putting a simple highschool girl in the league with people like Haibara and Gin? That's fandom gone to far...

[Nyarl]

Gin by far...

Ran, of course. Gin couldn't have guessed Conan's PIN password 8)

It was Shinichi's phone wasn't it?

And I'm sure it was such a test of her Intelligenceto figure out that SHERLOCK HOLMES FREAK's pin

How is Gin smarter "by far"? Not many characters solve cases without Conan's help or can parallel his thinking. Ran was one of them, so she's actually ahead of Haibara in practice (no, looking for a pattern on a map or recognizing the gender of a corpse aren't nearly as impressive as a multi-step deduction). Only reason I didn't put Ran ahead of Haibara was the same reason I put Eri ahead of Ran, back story asserted intelligence (no Harvard scholarships or wonder drug research for Ran yet).

Are you really using that easy case as an example? wow... Even putting a simple highschool girl in the league with people like Haibara and Gin? That's fandom gone to far...

Oh, it was an easy case because you declare it to be so. Or because it wasn't murder? Hand-waving what Ran actually does in story is Ran bashing gone too far.

[AICHAN]

Gin by far...

Ran, of course. Gin couldn't have guessed Conan's PIN password 8)

It was Shinichi's phone wasn't it?

And I'm sure it was such a test of her Intelligenceto figure out that SHERLOCK HOLMES FREAK's pin

How is Gin smarter "by far"? Not many characters solve cases without Conan's help or can parallel his thinking. Ran was one of them, so she's actually ahead of Haibara in practice (no, looking for a pattern on a map or recognizing the gender of a corpse aren't nearly as impressive as a multi-step deduction). Only reason I didn't put Ran ahead of Haibara was the same reason I put Eri ahead of Ran, back story asserted intelligence (no Harvard scholarships or wonder drug research for Ran yet).

so the murder case Haibara solved in vol 2o-21 is nothing compared to the case of stealing food that Ran solved?great

Every road takes us to Ran vs Haibara war

sorry,it wasn't my intention,but i don't know why Haibara,Eri... are here while we're talking about Gin and Ran...

So recognizing the old woman was a doppleganger after reading an explicit dying message warning of a doppleganger and identifying the gender of the corpse of the doppleganger's victim is more impressive logic than an actual multi-step deduction just because it involved murder   ?  

wait,are you saying that it was an easier case for Haibara,and it didn't required a lot of logic? fiding a secret passage,putting all the clues together to know who's the culprit isn't as impressive as Ran's deduction?isn't it the way detectives solve cases?

i'm not saying that Ran's case was easier(that's what you say about Haibara's deduction ),on the contrary,i think both cases were hard and i don't even know why you compare them...the two girls aren't detective,so that's great that Gosho made them solving cases sometimes...

ok,i'll stop now,i know we won't agree on that point and people will compain that we're off topic...

[Detective Prince]

Gin by far...

Ran, of course. Gin couldn't have guessed Conan's PIN password 8)

It was Shinichi's phone wasn't it?

And I'm sure it was such a test of her Intelligenceto figure out that SHERLOCK HOLMES FREAK's pin

How is Gin smarter "by far"? Not many characters solve cases without Conan's help or can parallel his thinking. Ran was one of them, so she's actually ahead of Haibara in practice (no, looking for a pattern on a map or recognizing the gender of a corpse aren't nearly as impressive as a multi-step deduction). Only reason I didn't put Ran ahead of Haibara was the same reason I put Eri ahead of Ran, back story asserted intelligence (no Harvard scholarships or wonder drug research for Ran yet).

Are you really using that easy case as an example? wow... Even putting a simple highschool girl in the league with people like Haibara and Gin? That's fandom gone to far...

Oh, it was an easy case because you declare it to be so. Or because it wasn't murder? Hand-waving what Ran actually does in story is Ran bashing gone too far.

Ok I never said anything about a murder now your just putting words in my mouth. But if figuring out who stole some stuff in a store and having suspects no less is hard then I'm sorry maybe my standards are too high.

[Nyarl]

i don't know why Haibara,Eri... are here while we're talking about Gin and Ran...

Because arguing how all the characters rate intellectually is more interesting and efficient than making absurd pairwise comparisons that are unflattering to Ran  .

wait,are you saying that it was an easier case for Haibara,and it didn't required a lot of logic? fiding a secret passage,putting all the clues together to know who's the culprit isn't as impressive as Ran's deduction?isn't it the way detectives solve cases?

Yes, it took some logic to solve Convenience Store, the b plot of Old Castle was mostly adventuring leading to the obvious (once the corpse's age and gender were known, which Ran almost certainly wouldn't know, but that's a knowledge problem, not a matter of logic).

[sstimson]

Gin by far...

Ran, of course. Gin couldn't have guessed Conan's PIN password 8)

It was Shinichi's phone wasn't it?

And I'm sure it was such a test of her Intelligenceto figure out that SHERLOCK HOLMES FREAK's pin

How is Gin smarter "by far"? Not many characters solve cases without Conan's help or can parallel his thinking. Ran was one of them, so she's actually ahead of Haibara in practice (no, looking for a pattern on a map or recognizing the gender of a corpse aren't nearly as impressive as a multi-step deduction). Only reason I didn't put Ran ahead of Haibara was the same reason I put Eri ahead of Ran, back story asserted intelligence (no Harvard scholarships or wonder drug research for Ran yet).

Are you really using that easy case as an example? wow... Even putting a simple highschool girl in the league with people like Haibara and Gin? That's fandom gone to far...

Oh, it was an easy case because you declare it to be so. Or because it wasn't murder? Hand-waving what Ran actually does in story is Ran bashing gone too far.

Ok I never said anything about a murder now your just putting words in my mouth. But if figuring out who stole some stuff in a store and having suspects no less is hard then I'm sorry maybe my standards are too high.

Though Conan Solved this example, Ran started it. The Case where Ran by herself noticed something not right with one of her friends I think.

Spoiler:

Turns out her husband was slowly poisoning her with the car Air conditioner

But for Ran, her friend might have died.

[kkslider5552000]

@Nyarl: no one cares

[Girl19]

It's obvious that the title of this thread should be "Gin vs. Ran: Who is your favorite?", because 11 people so far have voted for their favorite character, and not for whom they really think is the smartest. Typical from the Ran fans, sadly.

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Ran, of course. Gin couldn't have guessed Conan's PIN password 8)

Ran shared 16/17 years of life with Shinichi, Gin doesn't even remember who the heck Shinichi is. You do the math? 8)

Ran. She has driven the best detective of Japan in the corner 4 times already!

Ran is smarter than Shinichi himself? Is that what you're trying to say?

And Gin was stupid for running away in episode 1, without being 100% sure that Shinichi died.

I don't see how running away after giving someone a poisonous drug while the police is still nearby is stupid.
Oh wait, maybe Gin should have stayed there until the police comes and puts him in jail. Then he'd be considered smart?

How is Gin smarter "by far"? Not many characters solve cases without Conan's help or can parallel his thinking. Ran was one of them, so she's actually ahead of Haibara in practice (no, looking for a pattern on a map or recognizing the gender of a corpse aren't nearly as impressive as a multi-step deduction). Only reason I didn't put Ran ahead of Haibara was the same reason I put Eri ahead of Ran, back story asserted intelligence (no Harvard scholarships or wonder drug research for Ran yet).

Ran is also smarter than Haibara? Wow, Ran is obviously the smartest character in DC.
/thread

[Vylash]

are we really doing this, a professional assassin vs some random high school girl? really?

[Ran-Fan]

I don´t think that Gin is more smarter that Ran –and also don´t think that Ran is more smarter that Gin - both character have proof that they´re intelligent in DC, but they live in two “differents worldsâ€

[Girl19]

both character have proof that they´re intelligent in DC

Oh really? I must have missed something..

This is about Ran and Gin. RAN AND GIN.

I know, I still can't believe we're comparing between these 2.
My mind literally went blank for almost five minutes after reading the title of this thread.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

It's obvious that the title of this thread should be "Gin vs. Ran: Who is your favorite?", because 11 people so far have voted for their favorite character, and not for whom they really think is the smartest. Typical from the Ran fans, sadly.

Oi, I like Ran and I still voted for Gin. Not everyone who likes Ran is obsessed. Also with these kinds of pretty-obvious-who-to-vote-for polls you are going to get people making clever excuses to vote for the underdog character regardless of who they like.
I someone wants to consider different kinds of intelligence, that's one thing, but if it comes down to who would solve a fair typical DC mystery faster and more completely there isn't any question that Gin would beat Ran hands down. Gin would beat Haibara too.

Please don´t turn this in another Haibara vs Ran fight. This is about Ran and Gin. RAN AND GIN.

Geez, just when I purged that "Ran, Gin, and Vodka in a bath together" image from my head...