Demon Dog Case (734-740)

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

A reminiscent of Hound of the Baskervilles! Only five people left of the original eight children... What will happen next? The poll is a filler for later chapters btw...

[Conan 48:69]

I wonder if Kudou Shinichi (工藤伸壱) is a fake name or any relationship to Shinichi since that man's surname is Kudou too.

If Heiji informed Kogoro that a man named Kudou Shinichi (工藤伸壱) is killed, will Kogoro mistaken as high school detective Kudo Shinichi is dead, and how did Ran react when hearing that.

[xGinx]

As soon as I can read it i'll give an answer xD

Yokudekimasita <--- That's all my Japaneese

P.S: Obviously the trick is in the books that were moved from the wall to the floor and maybe in the trash. But that's all I can get from the RAW xD

[Kor]

As soon as I can read it i'll give an answer xD

Yokudekimasita <--- That's all my Japaneese

Abs. has posted a translation.

[xGinx]

As soon as I can read it i'll give an answer xD

Yokudekimasita <--- That's all my Japaneese

Abs. has posted a translation.

Ok, I'll go check it out. Thanks for the info.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

There are a few points about the crime scene. If Abukawa Funae did it there must have been a duct tape trick to allow her to leave the room which I assume Heiji and Conan spotted if the lady did it. It could be like the twin sisters bathroom duct tape case. (197-199) !Kudo had a bad back so balancing on books while holding his hands above his head to place duct tape would be difficult. !Kudo's footprints should be on the books since his feet were bare, but if the lady did it, there should be no footprints from her slippers.
The post mortem lividity on !Kudo's back is unusual because normally you get that on the side facing down when you die. This would seem to indicate the guy died on his back, but after death was flipped over. My guess is the lady COed him while he was asleep, came back to check up on him, and dumped the body on the floor for a reason I don't understand (maybe she thought it would look more natural?) She also might have reentered to set the music alarm clock...

Can someone shed light on the names? Is there a common theme within them, like numbers or some phrase you get if you take part of the first radicals because I have a strong hunch there is some sort of pattern to them. I think the names matter because at one point Conan asked Heiji what the names of the two dead people were, but the answer was cut off. Maybe the murderer is going in order... It's interesting that they are all weird because Hattori claimed the eight children were all named by Inubushi Tsunechika. The weirdness of all eight names would give legitimacy to the claim that they were all genuine illegitimate offspring (sounds like an oxymoron) of the boss. Perhaps recognizing her husband's naming scheme, Inubushi Satori realized they were all his handiwork, so to speak, and adopted all eight of them. Maybe this case will have light shed on it by figuring out which of these names is not like the others, or perhaps there is a "missing name" that should be on the list indicated by a gap in the naming theme if there is one.

I think the motive isn't the inheritance money, but the culprit who killed the other two was "wronged" when the eight children came to claim the money because going after someone who had given up his claim to the inheritance money is unnecessary if money were the only motive. Perhaps the Inubushi boss guy had a child by the wife who should be the legitimate successor, but that child was put aside? I think it is possible Abukawa Funae was put up to this case by the culprit in the previous two cases.

[Abs.]

I should note, too, that it's not just the children's names that are odd.  The president's name is odd as well.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I should note, too, that it's not just the children's names that are odd.  The president's name is odd as well.

Just for reference, we have
ust for reference, we have
犬伏 - Inubushi (the family name)
恒弟 - Tsunechika - the father
伸壱 - Shinichi - third dead child
考子 - Takako
佐記 - Saki
知晃 - Tomoaki
美我子 - Miwako
禅也 - Yoshia
蛍慈 - Keiji
幸姫- Miyuki
I'll see what I can come up with for wordplay...

Edit per wordplay junk. While looking for wordplay options, I stumbled across a blog that seemed to have something insightful to say about the names... Abs translated.

I hard googled the names to see what I could come up. As expected, nothing fell out, but I found found some blog discussing the case in the process. Is this guy onto something or clueless? Online translators don't work so well...

blog.zaq.ne.jp/twentyautumn/article/452/
さて、犬、八人、金持ちの名からするとネタ的には南総里見八犬伝。
明らかになってる八人の子供の名を見ても「仁義礼智忠信孝悌」の字を崩してるっぽい……んだけど。悌は父親の恒弟って名前だな。残り七人。
八人の名を書くと、伸壱（？）、考子（孝）、佐記(信)、知晃（智）、美我子（義）、禅也（礼）、蛍慈（忠）、幸姫（？）。
今回他に死んでる二人の名前、明らかになってないけど、あてずっぽでいくと犯人臭いのは「幸姫」なんだけど……。なんか今回の伸壱の名前も、仁と共通点なさげ？　あると言えばあるか？　
もろもろ来週以降でございます。
つーか。

Now that is interesting! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nans%C5%8D_Satomi_Hakkenden or more helpful: ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8D%97%E7%B7%8F%E9%87%8C%E8%A6%8B%E5%85%AB%E7%8A%AC%E4%BC%9D%E3%81%AE%E7%99%BB%E5%A0%B4%E4%BA%BA%E7%89%A9#.E5.85.AB.E7.8A.AC.E5.A3.AB

It almost gives the entire thing away!

Eight samurai, each with an identifying kanji: 孝 義 忠 信 悌 仁 智 礼

The blogger is basically saying: "From dogs, eight people, and the rich guy's name, we get Nansou Satomi Eight Dog Chronicles.
From looking at the eight people's names, 「仁義礼智忠信孝悌」 becomes clear... but... If we take the father's 恒弟 to be 悌, 7 are left.
From writing the eight people's names, we get: 伸壱（？）、考子（孝）、佐記(信)、知晃（智）、美我子（義）、禅也（礼）、蛍慈（忠）、幸姫（？）
We don't know yet what the names of the two people who died were, but for the time being the one that stinks most of being the culprit is 「幸姫」, however..... Doesn't it seem that 伸壱 may share features with 仁? Can we say that?"

I kind of feel like I cheated looking up someone else's solution, but I would have never gotten it on my own anyway... Even if I did it would have been after much google hit and miss without much logic to it.

Removed links because they were redirecting to an incorrect site and I couldn't get them to stop. Sorry about the manual copy paste.
▼ father's name fixed per Abs.

[Abs.]

[quote="Chekhov MacGuffin"]
Just for reference, we have

Spoiler: names

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[Abs.]

I am posting here just to have it be said that Chekhov has already solved the entire case (a few hours ago, at that).

[Nyarl]

I am posting here just to have it be said that Chekhov has already solved the entire case (a few hours ago, at that).

Spoiler:

Obviously the corpse was lying on its back for a while after death, as Checkhov explains about the lividity mark, so the victim was dead when the helper showed the detective that the victim was "sleeping" (and that's probably enough evidence to arrest the helper right there). It's not a repeat of past tape tricks, since those relied on the culprit being there with the detectives to fiddle with the tape while they were distracted or pull on the door to make it seem like it was actually taped. The brazier doesn't look like it was lit (or even still warm, Conan touches the coal at one point), so the helper could have just taped the room from the inside and hid beside the door, leaving the room while the detectives were focused on the body and the window. The loud music would mask sounds like her footsteps, too. Hmm... something bothers me about the curtain being half-drawn, though... and expecting anyone to buy the timing of the suicide when the brazier wasn't lit seems incredibly idiotic. I wonder if the helper is a patsy and the real culprit used a trick similar to the window trick from Three Days With Hattori/Lavender Scent case. Check to see if the window frame is screwed in properly, Conan!

If the brazier were lit (and Conan were merely thinking that it's even more incredible a guy with a bad back would put it on the floor instead of a dresser, forcing him to bend/kneel/squat to use it), then the window must've been fiddled with somehow to allow the culprit to leave the room after taping the sliding half.

[baka1412]

Damn, i hate it when Gosho tried his way using Japanese word play..

For those who doesn't know anything about Japanese word, this case is a total random guessing...

[Nyarl]

Damn, i hate it when Gosho tried his way using Japanese word play..

For those who doesn't know anything about Japanese word, this case is a total random guessing...

I kinda doubt the only way the culprit will be identified is through the name puzzle (remember, they'll need proof, too, since this isn't a dying message puzzle).

[Conan 48:69]

Haha, another man named Kudou Shinichi, did that man have any relationship with Shinichi, Yukiko and Yusaku since the surname is same. So that man can regard as Shinichi's uncle.

[caribou]

hm wasn't it mentioned that the kanji for their names are different though, so I don't think they are related at all? (though it would be cool if they were, maybe we're finally getting back to the plot?? )

this case looks interesting cos Gosho seems to have taken inspiration from 2 stories, combining them together (Hound of the Baskervilles and the Eight Dog Chronicles). not too shabby, Gosho-sensei! I think there are a few particular interesting points:

1. Reason behind the adoption

this case is almost the total opposite of the Hound of the Baskervilles since eight illegitimate children (ie. previously unknown relations) appeared openly, and they were then adopted by Inubushi's wife. Why did she do this?? It is far too generous on her part. if she had ignored them they would have just been turned away. Adopting them indicates that she deliberately wants the Inubushi fortune to be split between these 8 people who she doesn't even know are really Inubushi's children.. but why?

• she is just a really nice person and recognises that they are rightful heirs. *cough*
• she knows who the fortune will go to in the event of her death (Inubushi's long-lost sibling? cousin? uncle? etc) and she doesn't want it to go to that person, she would rather help these 8 people.
• i can't really think of anything else

if she was really diverting the fortune away from the rightful heir then this creates some motive for getting rid of the 8 adoptees. On the other hand, the victim had renounced his claim to the fortune, yet he was still murdered, so perhaps the true motive is really a grudge on the Inubushi family? it could be that the Inubushi group, being a successful company, had perhaps caused the downfall of another family company.

2. The crime scene

As others have pointed out, the victim in fact probably died on his back. Possibly when conan and Heiji went into the room he was already dead. They noticed that the room was very warm, indicating that the charcoal stove was already burning. perhaps at that time it was covered so that the smell would not be detected.

I think that so far Conan and Heiji only deduced that the nurse was the culprit only by elimination, (i.e. it could not have been the 2 of them, it could not have been an outsider, it could not have been the victim himself, therefore it must be the nurse). they would have to find the concrete proof later on.. i think that probably conan saw that the charcoal was already white (has burned for a long long time), or that the stove was no longer burning/already cooling down. and Heiji noticed that the pile of books was taken from a lower shelf, and the victim could not have bent down to take them due to his bad back. he would also have had difficulty pasting the tapes with his bad back.

Question is how they would find the evidence? It's quite unlikely that the nurse would start confessing... I also wonder how she set up this locked room, if they figure out the trick I guess that would help with the evidence as well.

3. The Eight Dogs Chronicles

I tried googling the story but I only found out about the general storyline. Is there anything in the chronicles that might indicate that one of the warriors might be a fake/hold a grudge/etc?? lol. I don't understand the wordplay thing, if someone could explain it that would be awesum

Possibly this might stretch into a longer case and the real culprit (the phony adoptee) may be caught in the act as he targets the next victim. agree with Chekhov that the nurse was put up to commit the murders, maybe with money or something.