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Good point ^^

But on a serious note, do you have passion in engineering?
Engineering ..well hmm... since you are excellent in your sums and this course requires you to ...well..master your Physics application..I guess you do love Physics, right...so why not?

Accounting is not only about tallying the figures...it is more to that..punching the figures on a calculator is easy but understanding how do you come about to get the figure etc is another thing... also.. your double entry knowledge must be at your fingertips..you must know them by the back of your hand (as the saying goes?? >_< ) and you must fully understand the accounting principles, concepts, standards etc..law..business ... management..so I guess..you must love your mother tongue which is English and good at arguments..essays...discussion questions ..not only having good grasp on those calculation on accounting thingy....

If you like teaching..well...you must have the patience to teach regardless of age or maturity... discipline and all those..

Try to visit those education fairs and consult with the experts... All the best!!

I took accountancy, and it wasn't bad. (I just realized a more suitable job for me.) I agree that it's one of the most stable careers around. I heard a lot of stories from my previous professors. They're both teaching and practicing accounting, and have told their students how their job makes them both happy and rich (!!!). If money for you is the best motivation, I strongly recommend the course. Money is directly proportional to stability, anyway.

I do feel sad about the apparent "instability" of engineering, because I think highly of it. An engineer has a greater prestige level than an accountant. And since that matters to me most, if I was in your case, I would try to make the most out of my education. Why not study the possibility of stability in engineering?

Good luck. Have fun. (:

If you enjoy engineering and want to do engineering, then do engineering. It's a hell of a lot more stable than my drama course XD

In my opinion, its as manga said, if you enjoy engineering and want to do engineering, then do engineering.
I think that it is not worth to go do something that you might not enjoy and might regret for the rest of your life just because of something you read on the internet. The internet doesn't know how stuff will will go for the engineers in some years by the time you graduate and if you are really good with engineering then I suppose it would be easier to find a stable job.
Its only my opinion though.

Kaito Lady wrote:In my opinion, its as manga said, if you enjoy engineering and want to do engineering, then do engineering.
I think that it is not worth to go do something that you might not enjoy and might regret for the rest of your life just because of something you read on the internet. The internet doesn't know how stuff will will go for the engineers in some years by the time you graduate and if you are really good with engineering then I suppose it would be easier to find a stable job.
Its only my opinion though.

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IMO, this is the best answer for this kind of question.

I'm studying engineering and I find strange reading that it isn't stable considering that in my country is the complete opposite of that.

Yeah, I feel like I always keep hearing that engineers are high in demand, I suppose it depends on what country you're in though (I'm from the US myself)

Conan324 wrote:as long as i have been in high school ive always i'd major in engineering upon graduating, but now that i have finally graduated, im not sure anymore...


i want a degree that is extremely stable and will guarantee a job in the future, and if the internet is to be believed, engineering isn't the best bet. so i thought about mathematics, since im extremely good at it, but then again i may not be good at dealing with younger people so if i want to teach i prefer adults.

i also thought about accounting, as it is mildly interesting but extremely stable...


i really have no idea what to choose/do

Study engineering if you love it. I did and i am quite fine.

Edit: Correct tense would be "am doing it."

kei wrote:

Kaito Lady wrote:In my opinion, its as manga said, if you enjoy engineering and want to do engineering, then do engineering.
I think that it is not worth to go do something that you might not enjoy and might regret for the rest of your life just because of something you read on the internet. The internet doesn't know how stuff will will go for the engineers in some years by the time you graduate and if you are really good with engineering then I suppose it would be easier to find a stable job.
Its only my opinion though.

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IMO, this is the best answer for this kind of question.

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Agreed.

Listen to Manga and KL up there.

For my part: Honestly, there's demand for every job that isn't chainmail blacksmith. If you like engineering and you are good at engineering, you should study engineering. You will be rewarded in the future by going to work and doing a job you find easy and enjoyable rather than struggling to care about a job that you are in only for the money. Ask the people who are happy with their careers twenty years on--everyone that's content and happy with what they're doing are people who are doing jobs that they liked, not ones that they felt were just guaranteed. If you are good at something and you enjoy it and you try at it, things will work out for you. If they don't, come blame me, and I'll tell you to try harder, and I'll be your stern master that pushes you forward to fight your nemesis in a climatic final battle where the fate of the world is on your shoulders.

Ahem.

Trying to study something else just because there may be a job in it is a self-defeating strategy. Not only will you be miserable should it not work out, keep in mind that everyone is going to be listening to the same sort of advice that you are. Look how many people went into law because it was said to be such a burgeoning field five years ago, and now it's one of the least profitable career paths for most graduates because there are too many prospective lawyers and not enough positions to go around. What is in demand now isn't necessarily going to be in demand five years from now, and what isn't in demand right now may be in demand five years from now due to the trends. If anything, getting out ahead of the trend is the smart decision, instead of following it, because at some point, it will catch up to you.

Hey, don't discourage the chainmail blacksmiths. They make a mint off Peter Jackson.

Other than that, everything Jd- said.

do what you want to do, or do what your parents force you to do because they pay for your education.

But besides the obvious from above

It's a joke if you're considering a math degree to be more stable to a engineering degree. It depends on what discipline of engineering you are referring to - certain specialties pay very well (petroleum) and some have a lot of demand and growth in the future (computer, electrical)

Also my two cents on math degrees - it's hard and boring, it's completely different from the math you do in HS. I used to like math and after doing some higher lvl stuff in Uni I didn't like it anymore. There's no application, and the demand isn't as good as you think. Eng degree is much 'safer'. Plus, from what I understand, you said you want to pursue a teaching career with math. Welp, besides getting a Phd and teaching on a collegiate level, say goodbye to that paying well wish, unless you're in an excellent school district

Do not do accounting just because you think it's stable - you won't like it at all because it's known to be one of the most boring office jobs, and it's not as easy/stable as you think, you have to pass a good amount of certification tests and any old degree from any school's not gonna cut it.

My advise to you - do engineering. I'm an engineering student finishing up my degree, it's worth it career-wise. It's tough though, especially if you go to a school that's rigorous. You'll meet a lot of smart peers; don't get cocky though, there will be tons of people just as good at math and most likely better than you.

The only thing is if you end up going to a top-tier or rigorous program you'll have a lack of free time and of a social life, that's the only thing I regret.

We have the same problem right now.^^
I'm studying KTWW (Kulturtechnik und Wasserwirtschaft - I don't think there is an english equivalent) and cought myself thinking that this is not the right thing for me, since I want something more than a desk-job. Therefore I'm looking for an apprenticeship or something similar.

So I want to give you some tips to decide if what you are studying is the right think for you:
1) Are you tallented enough for this? (I suck at nearly everything that has to do with electronics or computers so I can forget anything having to do with that)
2) Do the kind of jobs you wil get fulfil everything you whish of it? (e.g. too much/little intellectual work)
3) Is your field of study already overrun? (Do NOT study Psychology! At least not where I live)
4) Do you get enough payment without special circumstances to live on the living standard you want to? (e.g. carpenter - only profitable enough if you are self-employed)

I don't want to sway you away from your choice but you should ask yourself these questions before you study for years and suddenly find out that it isn't the right thing for you.


Btw: I'm finally back!

Biggest advice: don't overdo your major's classes from the get-go. Do your core classes (maths, sciences, language, etc), with maybe 1 major class per semester (just to get the ball moving). This way, if you decide you prefer your major as just a serious hobby rather than career, you can change majors without costing yourself too much time and money.

I say this from experience, as I went gung-ho on Computer Science and ended up losing 2 years due to realizing I didn't want to do that the rest of my life and switching majors to accounting. Granted it ended up fine since I needed extra credits to sit for the CPA, but I still ended up with about a semester and a half more credits than I needed, and a lot more college debt.

American universities always confuse me with majors and minors and credits and stuff... here, you go on a single targeted course. Your course has various non-optional modules for the first two years and then you specialize in third year and fourth year if you're going for honours. Then once you have your BA you can go onto a Doctorate course, if you're in a course offering that (I'm in drama, so I'm barely looking to be offered a job, never mind a doctorate XD) You can switch pretty easily at any time in the first two years, though, you just have to take evening module catchups. I have a friend who switched to nursing mid-second year and she's doing just fine. You can even start from scratch on a course instead of switching, although you'll have to start paying tuition once your four years' tuition ends.

Borealis wrote:We have the same problem right now.^^
I'm studying KTWW (Kulturtechnik und Wasserwirtschaft - I don't think there is an english equivalent) and cought myself thinking that this is not the right thing for me, since I want something more than a desk-job. Therefore I'm looking for an apprenticeship or something similar.

I tried Wikipedia with google translate (which made it a little more decipherable), and I think it's something similar to urban planning in North America, except for dealing with the challenges of rural development. US and Canada doesn't really have to worry about any of that since there's so much land for agricultural use and there's a lot of fresh water sources (for now).

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And what Ginrei said too. Engineering has quite a many branches to it, and involves physics much more than math. So don't use all of your time to take only engineering courses. You may find out one day that you want to be a doctor in mathematics (but I shudder at that thought). The best thing is that you can still change while you're in school. It's a lot more debt to switch after you finish one degree.