IRC Chatlogs

[Raifuujin]

So why am I driving a car?
D: I need to know!

Obviously because I'm Kaitou Kid and you allied with Conan to chase me, because he left his skateboard at Agasa's. V:

[Jecka]

So why am I driving a car?
D: I need to know!

Obviously because I'm Kaitou Kid and you allied with Conan to chase me, because he left his skateboard at Agasa's. V:

Coolio

[Kamite]

Its the Apocalypse. D:

[monsi]

[11:21:05:AM] <+Kamite> :3
[11:21:55:AM] <+Takagi> :3
[11:22:03:AM] <+Ganondork> :3
[11:24:38:AM] <+Monsi> :3
[11:26:22:AM] <+Kamite> :3
[11:43:28:AM] <+Takagi> :3
[11:43:55:AM] <+Cider_>
[11:44:07:AM] <+Monsi> :<
[11:46:45:AM] <+KaitouRai> V:
[11:47:17:AM] <+Monsi>
[11:47:52:AM] <+Cider_> where's akochan?
[11:48:18:AM] * +Monsi pokes Akonyl.
[11:48:26:AM] <+Monsi> He's frozen.
[11:50:59:AM] * +Kamite gets the flamethrower
[11:51:17:AM] * +Cider_ cries
[11:52:29:AM] * +Ganondork hugs Cider
[11:54:50:AM] <+Cider_> i'm just sad
[11:58:43:AM] <+Akonyl> what are you doing to my ice cube D:
[11:58:56:AM] <+Cider_> i vaporized it
[11:59:08:AM] * +Cider_ snuggles
[12:01:57:PM] <+Akonyl> ;_; my cube
[12:02:27:PM] <+Cider_> forget the cube
[12:02:43:PM] * +Cider_ snuggles again
[12:06:28:PM] <+Akonyl> you can't just destroy things in my life D:
[12:06:39:PM] <+Cider_> but i'm jealous with the ice cube
[12:07:17:PM] <+Akonyl> ;____;
[12:07:41:PM] * +Cider_ snuggles
[12:17:27:PM] * +Kamite gives ako a new ice cube
[12:17:32:PM] <+Cider_> oioi
[12:17:38:PM] * +Cider_ chops wolf's hands off
[12:17:48:PM] * +Kamite kicks cider
[12:17:49:PM] * +Cider_ vaporizes ice cube

And yes, we're that bored. :V

[Cider]

[8:50pm] Raifuujin: Hi Cider o/
[8:51pm] Cider_: person \o/
[8:51pm] Chibi-N: Cider Sis \o/
[8:53pm] Takagi: Cidery \o/
[8:57pm] Cider_: people \o/
[9:04pm] Nix|Away: Cider o/
[9:04pm] Akonyl: ahoy ci'der
[9:05pm] • Takagi waits for Cider to snuggle Akonyl. :3
[9:09pm] herm1 joined the chat room.
[9:09pm] herm1 was granted voice by Onigiri-Bot.
[9:09pm] • Kamite locks akonyl away
[9:10pm] Cider_: oi
[9:10pm] Cider_:
[9:10pm] • Cider_ kills Kamite. twice
[9:10pm] • Cider_ snuggles akochan
[9:11pm] dilbertschalter left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[9:11pm] Takagi: Seems that Kamite is planning to do something to Akonyl in that locked room. ( ¬‿¬)
[9:11pm] Cider_: ( ¬‿¬) Akomite
[9:12pm] Takagi: ( ¬‿¬)
[9:12pm] • Takagi high-fives Cider.
[9:15pm] Akonyl: apparently I don't even have a say in this
[9:18pm] Nix|Away: poor akonyl
[9:19pm] • Nix|Away gets akonyl out of the locked room then flees
[9:19pm] Takagi: Seems that Nixxie is planning to do something to Akonyl somewhere. ( ¬‿¬)
[9:19pm] • Takagi hides.
[9:23pm] Cider_: Nixonyl ( ¬‿¬)
[9:24pm] Cider_: Kleene wouldn't be pleased to know this ( ¬‿¬)
[9:26pm] • Nix|Away kills monsi and runs away
[9:26pm] Cider_: Nixcorpsi Nixonyl ( ¬‿¬)
[9:26pm] Cider_: Nixcorpsi ( ¬‿¬)
[9:27pm] Takagi: Totally worth it. ( ¬‿¬)
[9:27pm] Nix|Away: :V
[9:27pm] • Cider_ high-fives monsi
[9:27pm] Chibi-N: I'm just gonna pretend nothing's happening in here
[9:27pm] • Takagi high-fives back.

[Nix]

23:40 *** Jecka|Dormir is now known as Jex|Essay
23:41 Nix|Away Jecka \o/
23:41 *** Nix|Away is now known as Nix_
23:41 Jex|Essay Nix
23:44 Jex|Essay and speaking of them...
23:44 Monsi ...
23:45 Jex|Essay What? :V
23:45 Monsi ...
23:45 Nix_ :V
23:45 Monsi ...
23:46 Jex|Essay D: Oniisan can't talk!
23:46 Monsi ...
23:47 Nix_ D:
23:47 Monsi .....................
23:47 Jex|Essay gives monsi her voice
23:47 Monsi ...............................................................................
23:48 Jex|Essay (aka ability to talk) :V
23:48 Monsi .....
23:48 Nix_ Talk, monsi
23:48 Jex|Essay (see Anibelle's Wish)
23:48 Monsi ........
23:48 Nix_ Anibelle's Wish <3
23:49 Jex|Essay \o/
23:49 Monsi ...
23:50 Jex|Essay Shh the "........" are getting shorter
23:50 Nix_ Sort of :V
23:51 Monsi ....................................................................................................
23:51 Jex|Essay Darn :V
23:51 Nix_ :V
23:51 Monsi ...
23:52 Monsi Fine. :V
23:52 Nix_ \o/

[miyano_shiho]

[02:49:05] <+Ganondork> !stalk Miyanou
[02:49:06] * +Ginbot stalks Miyanou and finds out they secretly play video games all day.
[02:49:15] <+Ganondork>
[02:49:19] <+miyano_shiho> :V
[02:50:42] <+Ganondork> Ginbot knows more about you than you
[02:54:05] <+Jecka> !stalk games
[02:54:05] * +Ginbot stalks games and finds out they secretly wear only one shoe.
[02:54:39] <+miyano_shiho> I play games where the characters only wear one shoe :V
[02:54:48] <+miyano_shiho> Awesome, Ginbot :V
[02:55:59] <+Ganondork> Must be great
[02:55:59] <+Ginbot> *Slams desk* OBJECTION!
[02:56:21] <+Ganondork> ......
[02:56:47] <+Ganondork> Miyanou plays Cinderella
[02:56:55] <+Jecka> :O
[03:00:14] <+miyano_shiho> Oh, really :V
[03:00:45] <+miyano_shiho> !stalk Cinderella
[03:00:46] * +Ginbot stalks Cinderella and finds out they are secretly Jd-
[03:00:53] <+miyano_shiho> :V
[03:01:25] <+Jecka> :V
[03:01:36] <+Jecka> !stalk Jd
[03:01:36] * +Ginbot stalks Jd and finds out they are secretly miyano_shiho
[03:01:40] <+Jecka> :O
[03:01:43] <+Ganondork> XD
[03:01:44] <+miyano_shiho> wow
[03:02:08] <+miyano_shiho> Ginbot is great :V
[03:02:10] <+Ganondork> Miyanou plays with Miyanou
[03:02:18] <+miyano_shiho> *nods*

[Nix]

23:57 Monsi !ask Does miyano want a bouncer?
23:57 Ginbot No \o/
23:57 Monsi ...
23:57 Nix_ D:
23:57 Jecka D:
23:58 Jecka !ask are you 100% sure?
23:58 Ginbot Yes \o/
23:58 Jecka DDD:
23:58 Nix_ D:
23:58 Monsi !ask Is Ginbot serious on that answer?
23:58 Monsi ..................................................
23:58 Ginbot Yes \o/
23:58 Jecka D:
23:58 Nix_ D:
23:58 Jecka !ask is Ginbot mean?
23:58 Ginbot No \o/
23:58 Jecka Lies
23:58 Nix_ D:
23:58 Nix_ !ask is ginbot lying?
23:58 Ginbot Yes \o/
23:59 Monsi !ask Are you currently trolling us, Ginbot?
23:59 Ginbot Yes \o/
23:59 Jecka !ask is it opposite day?
23:59 Ginbot Yes \o/
23:59 Jecka \o/
23:59 Nix_ \o/
23:59 Ginbot ^ I approve of this.
00:00 Nix_ \o/
00:01 Monsi !ask Is Ginbot serious?
00:01 Ginbot No \o/
00:01 Monsi ...
00:01 Jecka :<


Ginbot the meanie

[Jecka]

[09:28:58] <+JecKaitou> !stalk Ginbot :V
[09:28:59] * Ginbot stalks Ginbot and finds out they are secretly JecKaitou
[09:28:59] <Ginbot> ^ I approve of this.
[09:29:06] <+JecKaitou> XD
[09:29:07] <Nix_> XD
[09:29:10] <+Ganondork> XDDDD

[Nix]

<+Nix_> Haven't seen Yuriko for a loooooooong time
<+Kirbypepe> And abs
<@Jd-> Yuriko has been missing for a dog's age now
<+Ringo> I haven't even met them. :/
<+bluechankun> Me either
<@Jd-> Abs is here now--Abs, you see, is all of us
<+bluechankun> Abs.! O:
<+KangarooGirl-> Except me
<+Ringo> Bet I'm the newest around. It's a bit lonely here.
<@Jd-> That's my Matrix moment for the day, log that one

[bluekaitou1412]

[21:26] <@Jd-> The DCTP Mafia Reunion Special, currently in planning stages!!fkdslnfsd111

[monsi]

For Stop...

Spoiler:

[07:03:42:PM] * Stop (~AndChat32@BCE7FCA5.6B5C36CF.DD077211.IP) has joined #minimafia
[07:03:42:PM] * Onigiri-Bot sets mode: +v Stop
[07:03:57:PM] <Miyano|AFK> Hi again Stop!
[07:04:28:PM] <+Stop> Most painful attempt at a religious discussion ever >_<
[07:04:34:PM] <+Stop> Hey miyano
[07:04:56:PM] <Monsi> Stopy \o/
[07:05:02:PM] * Monsi hides.
[07:05:35:PM] * Miyano|AFK is now known as miyano_shiho
[07:07:04:PM] <+Stop> My sister brought up a possible contradiction on the bible to someone (Jesus wrecking that stall in a temple with the entire turn the other cheek thing) but from there the arguments on both sides were just terrible.
[07:07:59:PM] <miyano_shiho> Becky?
[07:08:44:PM] <+Stop> Just, use logic guys, even if it has to be bible logic.
[07:08:55:PM] <+Stop> Yep.
[07:09:47:PM] <miyano_shiho> How were they (or were you involved too) arguing? :V
[07:10:22:PM] * Jex (~Jecka1021@Rizon-B26124BF.c3-0.smt-ubr1.atw-smt.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #minimafia
[07:10:25:PM] * Onigiri-Bot sets mode: +v Jex
[07:10:26:PM] <miyano_shiho> :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
[07:10:30:PM] <Monsi> Jecky \o/
[07:10:43:PM] <miyano_shiho> So early again :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:10:46:PM] <+Jex> Ohio!
[07:10:51:PM] <miyano_shiho> Hi Jecka! *glomps*
[07:11:00:PM] <+Jex> I just woke up
[07:11:21:PM] <+Jex> JJ! *glomps*
[07:11:45:PM] <+Jex> Oniisan! \\o//
[07:12:07:PM] <+Stop> The original point was interesting but you don't just resort to saying "whatever" when you are trying to think of a response :x
[07:12:11:PM] <+Stop> Jecka o/
[07:12:37:PM] <+Jex> That means I've slept....5.5 hours?
[07:12:44:PM] <miyano_shiho> DD:
[07:12:53:PM] <+Jex> Not that bad
[07:13:00:PM] <miyano_shiho> Go back to sleep D:
[07:13:01:PM] <+Jex> Para
[07:13:20:PM] <miyano_shiho> But you don't go back to sleep :V
[07:13:36:PM] <+Stop> Okay, I bet you can answer this better. Jecka, how would you justify Jesus wrecking that stall in that temple when compared to his message of turning the other cheek?
[07:14:01:PM] <+Stop> You don't have to answer if you don't want to though :x
[07:14:15:PM] <+Jex> Hmmm
[07:14:22:PM] <miyano_shiho> I can answer too :x
[07:14:30:PM] <+Jex> ^
[07:15:22:PM] <miyano_shiho> IMO, what Jesus said about turning the other cheek should not be taken generally
[07:16:00:PM] <miyano_shiho> Jesus has an important reason for 'wrecking' that stall in the temple
[07:16:20:PM] <miyano_shiho> to teach them how to respect
[07:16:36:PM] <miyano_shiho> That's what I could say for now
[07:16:58:PM] * +Jex gathering thoughts
[07:17:06:PM] <+Jex> *is
[07:18:18:PM] * +Stop (~AndChat32@BCE7FCA5.6B5C36CF.DD077211.IP) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[07:18:29:PM] <miyano_shiho> :V
[07:18:50:PM] <+Jex>
[07:18:59:PM] <miyano_shiho> How many people can do it like me? ~
[07:19:06:PM] <miyano_shiho> It's now stuck in my head :V
[07:19:18:PM] <+Jex> Zero
[07:21:05:PM] <miyano_shiho> The video's been looping
[07:25:00:PM] * Stop (~Stopwatch@Rizon-9BF7D179.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #minimafia
[07:25:01:PM] * Onigiri-Bot sets mode: +v Stop
[07:25:09:PM] <+Stop> Sorry about that. My phone ran out of charge.
[07:25:17:PM] <+Stop> What did I miss?
[07:25:39:PM] <miyano_shiho> What was the last line you saw?
[07:25:44:PM] * +KangarooGirl- (~KangarooG@5F39810B.59B06686.C544555B.IP) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[07:25:47:PM] <+Stop> Last thing I posted.
[07:26:01:PM] <+Jex> Aww when's Stop coming back?
[07:26:16:PM] <miyano_shiho> She's here :V
[07:26:20:PM] <miyano_shiho> [19:14:15] <+Jex> Hmmm
[07:26:20:PM] <+Jex> I finally wrote it
[07:26:21:PM] <miyano_shiho> [19:14:21] <miyano_shiho> I can answer too :x
[07:26:22:PM] <miyano_shiho> [19:14:33] <+Jex> ^
[07:26:22:PM] <miyano_shiho> [19:15:22] <miyano_shiho> IMO, what Jesus said about turning the other cheek should not be taken generally
[07:26:22:PM] <miyano_shiho> [19:16:00] <miyano_shiho> Jesus has an important reason for 'wrecking' that stall in the temple
[07:26:22:PM] <miyano_shiho> [19:16:20] <miyano_shiho> to teach them how to respect
[07:26:23:PM] <miyano_shiho> [19:16:36] <miyano_shiho> That's what I could say for now
[07:26:24:PM] <miyano_shiho> [19:16:57] * +Jex gathering thoughts
[07:26:25:PM] <miyano_shiho> [19:17:06] <+Jex> *is
[07:26:51:PM] <+Jex> Spam!! :V
[07:27:04:PM] <+Jex> Oh no wait
[07:27:11:PM] <+Jex> Just lag
[07:27:12:PM] <miyano_shiho> Stop asked what she missed :V ?
[07:27:33:PM] <+Jex> Sorry my iPod was hit with lag
[07:27:43:PM] <+Jex> Anyway
[07:27:51:PM] <+Jex> For the most part, what JJ said. The reason Jesus broke the stalls was because they were selling things in a house of worship. Turning the other cheek is ignoring it and continuing on doing when others tell you to stop, but it doesn't apply to sinning against God or what the merchants did.
[07:28:22:PM] <miyano_shiho>
[07:29:22:PM] <+Stop> Honestly, I took it as Jesus generally just getting angry at them insulting his father by worshipping idols (also breaks commandment so). It's been shown like in the Garden of Gethse(can't spell it :x) that he sometimes had trouble doing what his father asked and though most of the time he managed it the fact remains that he was made *human*.
[07:29:28:PM] <+Jex> Whoo
[07:29:30:PM] -> [Stop] PING
[07:29:46:PM] <Monsi> ...
[07:29:54:PM] <+Stop> I support Woobie!Jesus apparently o.O
[07:30:03:PM] <miyano_shiho> ?
[07:30:29:PM] <+Stop> I just attempted to humanise one third of God. Yeah, my arguments need work.
[07:31:29:PM] <+Stop> Also @Jecka: doing pretty much anything wrong is sinning against God so.
[07:31:43:PM] <+Jex> true
[07:32:27:PM] <+Stop> So why not turn the other cheek by your reasoning? ^^;
[07:32:39:PM] <+Stop> But thanks for answering, you two .
[07:32:45:PM] <miyano_shiho> He wasn't 'generally just getting angry'. He made them realize that everything has limits, that we can't just keep ignoring
[07:32:59:PM] <+Jex> Whoo it's been a while since I came down before Dad
[07:33:53:PM] <miyano_shiho> About the turning the other cheek, it means if you're doing it for the sake of God, it's okay to get yourself hurt
[07:33:56:PM] <+Jex> ...and nothing's on
[07:34:43:PM] <+Stop> He said if someone steals your possessions you should be fine with it, if someone inflicts violence on it you should be fine by it. He said to love your enemy. I mean, if you look at the Old Testament there are some pretty extreme cases of that going on.
[07:34:52:PM] <miyano_shiho> But for the temple case, it was disgracing God himself
[07:35:20:PM] <+Stop> I was trying to avoid Jerkass!God interpretation but it is canon so.
[07:35:33:PM] <+Stop> I would make a terrible Christian :x.
[07:35:36:PM] <miyano_shiho> You don't compare everything in the Old Testament with the New Testament
[07:35:46:PM] <+Stop> I'm using bits from both.
[07:35:55:PM] <miyano_shiho> You must consider the difference in time, culture, and everything else
[07:36:17:PM] <+Stop> Lots of the early church leaders were killed and stoned for their beliefs.
[07:36:44:PM] <+Stop> I am considering that and there is much more difference between the New Testament and modern day than the Old Testament and the New Testament
[07:36:49:PM] <miyano_shiho> From what I've read, people in the Old Testament did not understand their religion too much
[07:36:50:PM] <+Jex> Brb
[07:36:50:PM] * +Jex (~Jecka1021@Rizon-B26124BF.c3-0.smt-ubr1.atw-smt.pa.cable.rcn.com) Quit (Quit: ♪If you're strong, you'll survive And you'll keep your dream alive♪)
[07:37:04:PM] <miyano_shiho> Now we're discussing religion :x
[07:37:41:PM] <miyano_shiho> Yes, modern days are even much more different
[07:38:06:PM] <+Stop> If you just took summaries of the Old Testament it would basically be "people disobey God. He banishes them or punishes them. He gives them a saviour to help them out. They forget about God and mess up again. Rinse and repeat."
[07:38:51:PM] <miyano_shiho> Atheism, agnosticism, and other variations are more apparent these days rather than stoning church leaders
[07:39:00:PM] <+Stop> (Obviously I'm missing out stuff like with Ruth in this, but I'm talking overall not individuals)
[07:40:22:PM] <+Stop> My point was that dying is fine but insulting God isn't with the stoning stuff.
[07:40:29:PM] <+Stop> *-with the stoning stuff
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Session Start: Sun Jun 09 19:43:32 2013
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[07:43:43:PM] * Topic is '...nobody wins?'
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[07:43:43:PM] <miyano_shiho> Yes, modern days are even much more different [19:37:27]
[07:43:43:PM] <+Stop> If you just took summaries of the Old Testament it would basically be "people disobey God. He banishes them or punishes them. He gives them a saviour to help them out. They forget about God and mess up again. Rinse and repeat." [19:37:51]
[07:43:43:PM] <miyano_shiho> Atheism, agnosticism, and other variations are more apparent these days rather than stoning church leaders [19:38:36]
[07:43:43:PM] <+Stop> (Obviously I'm missing out stuff like with Ruth in this, but I'm talking overall not individuals) [19:38:43]
[07:43:43:PM] <+Stop> My point was that dying is fine but insulting God isn't with the stoning stuff. [19:39:52]
[07:43:43:PM] <+Stop> *-with the stoning stuff [19:40:07]
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Session Start: Sun Jun 09 19:47:24 2013
Session Ident: #minimafia
[07:47:24:PM] * Now talking in #minimafia
[07:47:24:PM] * Topic is '...nobody wins?'
[07:47:24:PM] * Set by Akobo!~CSharpBot@Rizon-2C6AF1D1.hsd1.md.comcast.net on Sun Jun 09 16:33:26
[07:47:24:PM] * Onigiri-Bot sets mode: +v Monsi
[07:48:21:PM] <+Monsi> So...
[07:48:36:PM] <+Jex> Net split
[07:48:42:PM] <+Monsi> ...
[07:49:01:PM] <+Monsi> And...
[07:49:02:PM] <+Monsi> [07:46:39:PM] -irc.broke-it.com- *** Banned Temporary K-line 30 min. - Too many connections from your host: please visit http://www.rizon.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=29 for help (2013/6/9 07.43)
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[07:49:30:PM] <+Jex> D:
[07:49:30:PM] <miyano_shiho> ...
[07:49:30:PM] <+Stop> Eh, well sorry for this. I'll back out of the discussion before Jd- returns and I'm forced to take the Christian side again. Oh hey Jd-.
[07:49:37:PM] * Onigiri-Bot sets mode: +v miyano_shiho
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[07:50:17:PM] <@Jd-> The New Testament is the biblical equivalent of a Version 2
[07:50:29:PM] <@Jd-> No worries, I'm not around for long atm
[07:51:49:PM] <+Jex> Why must I be terrible at debates?
[07:52:04:PM] <+Stop> Nah, it's fine. Just I have the habit of getting distracted whenever you become involved in a religious or political discussion and won't leave until I've dug myself a nice fancy grave.
[07:52:13:PM] <+Stop> Or it's 3am, whichever happens first.
[07:52:19:PM] <+Stop> You're not @Jecka
[07:52:32:PM] <+Jex> Yes I am D:
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[07:52:49:PM] <+miyano_shiho> What's happening :V
[07:53:13:PM] <+Stop> You're not, right? @miyano. Jecka, can you spam Miyano, it's kinda hard on this app? ^^;
[07:53:18:PM] <+Jex> The bouncer has been banned
[07:53:19:PM] <+Monsi> miyano: [07:46:39:PM] -irc.broke-it.com- *** Banned Temporary K-line 30 min. - Too many connections from your host: please visit http://www.rizon.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=29 for help (2013/6/9 07.43)
[07:53:29:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I saw
[07:53:29:PM] <+Monsi> Only for 30 minutes.
[07:53:36:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I'm on a random server
[07:53:52:PM] <+miyano_shiho> Go ahead spam me
[07:54:21:PM] * +Monsi slaps miyano with Spam. :V
[07:54:41:PM] * +miyano_shiho slaps the spam back to monsi :V
[07:54:48:PM] <+Jex> :V
[07:55:28:PM] <+miyano_shiho> This was the last thing I saw
[07:55:29:PM] <+miyano_shiho> [19:49:29] <+Stop> Eh, well sorry for this. I'll back out of the discussion before Jd- returns and I'm forced to take the Christian side again. Oh hey Jd-.
[07:55:59:PM] <+Jex> The. You didn't miss too much
[07:55:59:PM] <+miyano_shiho> What were you asking me, Stop?
[07:56:18:PM] <+Jex> *then
[07:56:30:PM] <+miyano_shiho> <+Stop> You're not, right? @miyano <--
[07:57:03:PM] <+Stop> Jecka was claiming to be terrible at debates so I said she wasn't and asked you for confirmation.
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Session Start: Sun Jun 09 19:59:06 2013
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[08:19:01:PM] * Topic is '...nobody wins?'
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[08:19:03:PM] * Onigiri-Bot sets mode: +v Monsi
[08:19:07:PM] <+miyano_shiho> But as a Christian, specifically a Catholic, I have a duty to share my faith to others
[08:19:24:PM] <+Monsi> ...
[08:19:30:PM] <+Stop> I understand your point. But that doesn't mean we should just be atheists. There still has to be some truth. <- I'm fine with people following religions. In fact with some people it genuinely helps them. Just personally I'm atheist agnostic for a reason.
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Session Start: Sun Jun 09 20:19:30 2013
Session Ident: #minimafia
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[08:19:54:PM] * Topic is '...nobody wins?'
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[08:19:54:PM] <***> Buffer Playback...
[08:19:55:PM] <+Jex> Yay it's back [20:15:35]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> To me, and this is just how I approach things, but [20:15:39]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> I don't like to put all my eggs in one basket until there's ample reason to do so [20:16:02]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> There are plenty of religions out there [20:16:08]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> Ones that predate Christianity, ones that came after [20:16:17]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> I have no reason to invalidate them in favor of Christianity or vice versa [20:16:28]
[08:19:55:PM] <+miyano_shiho> Why shehehe? :V [20:17:08]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> There were maaaany, many, many religion and faith-based initiatives that came out of the Middle East along with Christianity back then [20:17:23]
[08:19:55:PM] <+Jex> Shiho was taken [20:17:29]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> If you study it closely, you can trace the lineage of the Christian legacy [20:17:39]
[08:19:55:PM] <+miyano_shiho> Yes [20:17:51]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> For example, monotheism actually basically came from Zoroastrianism [20:17:59]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> These belief systems were based on one another and built on one another [20:18:25]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> Many of those older religions were much closer to what we would come to know as Hinduism [20:18:37]
[08:19:55:PM] <+miyano_shiho> But as a Christian, specifically a Catholic, I have a duty to share my faith to others [20:18:53]
[08:19:55:PM] <Monsi> ... [20:19:11]
[08:19:55:PM] <+Stop> I understand your point. But that doesn't mean we should just be atheists. There still has to be some truth. <- I'm fine with people following religions. In fact with some people it genuinely helps them. Just personally I'm atheist agnostic for a reason. [20:19:16]
[08:19:55:PM] <@Jd-> But then, we had Zoroastrianism, which, no doubt, greatly influenced the story that would become Christianity and Islam [20:19:22]
[08:19:55:PM] <***> Playback Complete.
[08:19:55:PM] <+Stop> Judaism in there?
[08:19:55:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I don't think I can answer well about other religions, as I only know a little about them
Session Close: Sun Jun 09 20:20:01 2013
[08:20:04:PM] <@Jd-> I think everyone should proselytize their beliefs
[08:20:10:PM] <@Jd-> I want an open discussion on everything
[08:20:26:PM] <@Jd-> That separates me from other atheists/nonbelievers, but I do think so
[08:20:36:PM] <+Stop> Buddhism is a pretty good one and it's either that or Sikhism which uses gender neutral pronouns in its book.
[08:20:47:PM] <@Jd-> I want everyone to always talk about what they believe, instead of only believing it in a bubble and such--that's atheists, too
[08:20:54:PM] * Monsi|Offline is now known as Monsi
[08:20:59:PM] <@Jd-> If something is true, it should be able to stand up to any degree of scrutiny
[08:21:16:PM] <@Jd-> That's why there's no subject I'm not willing to debate or be enlightened on
[08:21:21:PM] <+Stop> I think there should be discussion but not to the point of forcing beliefs onto others, only making them aware of them.
[08:22:11:PM] <+miyano_shiho> That's how we're different from people 2000 or more years ago. We're more open minded. We seek knowledge. We've grown more concerned about ourselves
[08:22:11:PM] <@Jd-> If my stance on religion (that it's a man-made convention used to govern and inform new generations as a means of controlling how one's lineage behaves after they are gone) is a sound one, then I should--reasonably--be able to hold onto that hypothesis through even the most rigorous testing
[08:23:35:PM] <@Jd-> I think, right now, a lot of people are using religion to justify injustice
[08:23:40:PM] <+Stop> https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 4661,d.ZG4 <- best I could find at short notice
[08:24:00:PM] <@Jd-> That is why I'm a bit more combative in today's age than I would normally otherwise be
[08:24:10:PM] <@Jd-> I don't like religion, any religion, informing state policies or legislation
[08:24:39:PM] <+miyano_shiho> But do you do good?
[08:24:59:PM] <+Stop> I think that's partly due to your Americanness. In American beliefs are much stronger and that often seems to make atheists more defensive because of all the other influences if that makes much sense?
[08:25:06:PM] <+Stop> *America
[08:25:20:PM] <@Jd-> Well, this is where it'll get controversial, but
[08:25:28:PM] <@Jd-> I really don't believe that most people actually believe in their religions
[08:25:35:PM] <@Jd-> Let me explain
[08:25:44:PM] <+Stop> Nope, a lot of it is cultural. Is that what you mean?
[08:26:10:PM] <@Jd-> They are introduced to them as children, and they believe that they believe, but much of it is tied to their cultural identity (having been convinced it's part of who they are), and their family ties
[08:26:14:PM] <@Jd-> Indeed, indeed
[08:26:52:PM] <+Jex> I don't think it's so much they dont believe, but it's they don't care enough to practice it
[08:26:55:PM] <@Jd-> But, I don't think most people in the developed world live as if they have a religion outside of the few instances in which they are forced to "choose a side", so to speak
[08:27:06:PM] <@Jd-> I think those two things tie very closely together
[08:27:09:PM] <+miyano_shiho> The Philppines is a Catholic country, and I can say I've been baptized when I was still a baby
[08:27:28:PM] <+Stop> (Though a lot of my church does genuinely believe it. Considering the main leader guy was originally an atheist who served in Ireland as military or some such and *then* converted and lot of the others here have backgrounds where they converted instead of being brought up in it...)
[08:27:38:PM] <@Jd-> If they really believed that they needed to strictly follow the tenants of God to get to heaven, they wouldn't dare go against it so willingly
[08:27:50:PM] <+miyano_shiho> My parents taught me about the faith, but they aren't really that religious
[08:28:04:PM] <@Jd-> They'd go to church every Sunday without exception (and some do, but the absolute vast majority definitely do not)
[08:28:15:PM] <@Jd-> In the U.S., I would say the amount of actually religious people is around 20%
[08:28:23:PM] <@Jd-> I live in an area purported to be extremely religious, and yet...
[08:28:28:PM] <+Stop> Very vocal minority though.
[08:28:29:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I mean they are religious but not extremely
[08:28:37:PM] <@Jd-> Very few people, especially young people, care about religion at all
[08:28:51:PM] <@Jd-> You never hear about it unless people feel like their cultural/familial identity is being attacked
[08:29:01:PM] <+Jex> That, sadly, is true
[08:29:05:PM] <+miyano_shiho> There's a Bible in the house but I don't see them reading it
[08:29:18:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I'm the only one who reads it at home
[08:29:25:PM] <@Jd-> Virtually no one's decisions seem to be informed by their religion at all, and that's why I use the phrase "religious when convenient"
[08:29:32:PM] <+Stop> I'll admit I can get defensive over Christianity even though I'm not even a Christian and that's likely at least in part due to how I was brought up :x.
[08:29:43:PM] <@Jd-> Indeed, Stoppers
[08:29:57:PM] <+Stop> ;_;
[08:30:00:PM] <@Jd-> That's the power of (and I use this neutrally) indoctrination
[08:30:07:PM] <@Jd-> There are good forms of it and bad
[08:30:12:PM] <@Jd-> Good forms being general health and safety tips
[08:30:28:PM] <@Jd-> (Don't go out in the woods alone, don't handle snakes, don't chase bears)
[08:30:42:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I didn't study in a Catholic school, unlike my brother, but I was more religious and spritual than him
[08:30:54:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I don't really know where I'm going with this
[08:31:02:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I talk about myself
[08:31:15:PM] <+Stop> My church tries to teach about using religion in daily life and considering the amount of stuff for 'youth' they run I would say they abide by that. They get Muslims into the church with alarming regularity just from the football they run :x.
[08:31:22:PM] <@Jd-> Those are bits of knowledge that are pushed on children from when they are very young, and they are things that would go on later on (although biological evolution also plays a part, as humans evolved a sense of danger that makes them fear certain creatures although all do not)
[08:31:51:PM] <+miyano_shiho> Oh
[08:31:54:PM] <@Jd-> So, I really see religion in a different light than most, I think
[08:32:08:PM] <+Jex> Tbh, What I heard most about Catholic schools is the nuns :x
[08:32:13:PM] <@Jd-> I would use the Penn Jillette example as a rough means of gauging how much people really believe
[08:32:23:PM] <+Stop> O.o there are nuns in Catholic schools?
[08:32:29:PM] <+miyano_shiho> Yes
[08:32:34:PM] <+Monsi> Yep.
[08:32:36:PM] <+Stop> Not over here :x.
[08:32:51:PM] <+Jex> I don't know anything else about the schools
[08:32:56:PM] <+Jex> Just the nuns
[08:33:01:PM] <+Stop> XD
[08:33:23:PM] <@Jd-> "If god (however you perceive him/her/it) told you to kill your child—would you do it? If your answer is no, in my booklet you’re an atheist."
[08:33:32:PM] <@Jd-> I agree with that "test"
[08:34:18:PM] <@Jd-> I would call them a theistically-informed atheist (someone born an atheist, as all are, and then informed with theistic values of a given religion)
[08:34:22:PM] <+miyano_shiho> My answer would be, how do you interpret 'kill'
[08:34:58:PM] <+miyano_shiho> It's a bit unfair since being a human and as told by my religion, killing is wrong
[08:34:59:PM] <+Stop> 'Kill' and 'murder' have different connotations in the Bible I think?
[08:35:12:PM] <+Stop> Murder gives intent behind it.
[08:35:22:PM] <@Jd-> And yet
[08:35:33:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I'm faced with the dillema
[08:35:38:PM] <+miyano_shiho> dilemma *
[08:35:44:PM] <@Jd-> God ordered Abraham to kill his son Isaac in order to test his belief
[08:35:51:PM] <@Jd-> (Not one of God's prouder moments)
[08:35:56:PM] <+Stop> And he would have done.
[08:36:00:PM] <+miyano_shiho> Yes
[08:36:11:PM] <+Jex> Murder is wrong
[08:36:19:PM] <@Jd-> But, as with the original story, the question really is: "If God told you to kill your child, would you do it?"
[08:36:31:PM] <+Jex> Not all killing is wrong :x
[08:36:36:PM] <@Jd-> This is God we're talking about--he's not really interested in anyone questioning his ways
[08:36:46:PM] <+Stop> I have to wonder, if you had to kill one person to save many, how would religion handle it?
[08:36:50:PM] <+miyano_shiho> Ahh I should've recognized their differnce
[08:36:54:PM] <@Jd-> He wants to know if you're willing to kill your child
[08:36:56:PM] <+Jex> Lag D:
[08:37:08:PM] <@Jd-> Anyone who isn't willing to do so isn't a true believer to me
[08:37:16:PM] <@Jd-> That's just my take on it, I know some would disagree but that's just how I take it
[08:37:37:PM] <+miyano_shiho> Abraham's seen God
[08:38:55:PM] <+Stop> He has proof you mean? So the test of faith is different?
[08:38:55:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I've never 'seen (as in visibly)' God
[08:39:20:PM] <+Jex> Before his death, Abraham never saw God
[08:39:20:PM] <+Stop> Doubting Thomas. He could fit in somewhere.
[08:39:20:PM] <+miyano_shiho> But even though I haven't 'seen' Him
[08:39:20:PM] <+miyano_shiho> I should still have faith
[08:39:20:PM] <+Jex> No one has
[08:39:28:PM] <+miyano_shiho> oh
[08:39:28:PM] <+Jex> God spoke to them
[08:39:28:PM] <+Stop> Well there was that time with the light in the Old Testament. Might've been with Daniel?
[08:39:28:PM] <@Jd-> Abraham was willing to do so, so I would call him a true believer (although he was clearly disillusioned, frightened, and a maniac in the end)
[08:39:36:PM] <+miyano_shiho> It was Moses I was talking about :X
[08:39:42:PM] <@Jd-> His belief was clearly not healthy
[08:39:42:PM] <+Jex> An angel yes
[08:40:24:PM] <+Jex> @stop
[08:40:40:PM] <+Jex> Moses didn't either
[08:40:40:PM] <+Stop> It's supposed to be a 'relationship' with God.
[08:40:40:PM] <@Jd-> So, from my perspective, there are very, very few true believers out there
[08:40:49:PM] <+Stop> He went to the top of the mountain and heard him, was it?
[08:40:56:PM] <@Jd-> There are plenty of believe they believe, but as for actually believing it and living at all times with that belief? I have considerable doubts
[08:41:06:PM] <+Jex> Yep @stop
[08:41:11:PM] <@Jd-> My question is
[08:41:21:PM] <@Jd-> Why don't we believe people today when they say that they've seen God?
[08:41:45:PM] <+Monsi> Because...
[08:41:52:PM] <+miyano_shiho> Sorry, this discussion's making me confused with my memory
[08:41:52:PM] <+Stop> Good question.
[08:41:57:PM] <@Jd-> You never see the court overturning evidence based on people who say they were told to do something by God, or that happenings were influenced by God, even though in many places you have to swear on the Bible to testify
[08:42:14:PM] <@Jd-> There are thousands upon thousands of people who claim biblical intervention in their lives every year
[08:42:21:PM] <@Jd-> And yet, we see them as crazy
[08:42:23:PM] <@Jd-> Why is that?
[08:42:26:PM] <+Stop> People can't believe God would actually appear to someone.
[08:42:35:PM] <+Stop> To be fair, it happened with Jesus.
[08:42:55:PM] <+Stop> As in, miracles and then they crucified him. Yeah, good going there.
[08:43:00:PM] <@Jd-> Which, I find curious, given that the entire Bible is based on God appearing to and confiding in solitary figures for the most part (as with Moses)
[08:43:29:PM] <+Jex> Also, my parents haven't come down yet
[08:44:42:PM] <+miyano_shiho> oh DD: I have to go AFK for a while
[08:44:48:PM] <@Jd-> Apart from when he's wiping out and genociding, most of his information went to people like Moses, but if you consider one of two other possibilities (Moses made it up and Moses never existed/was someone who existed but was modeled into the story long after he was dead), it gets quite interesting
[08:44:48:PM] * miyano_shiho is now known as Miyano|AFK
[08:44:48:PM] <+Miyano|AFK> about 20 mins
[08:44:48:PM] <@Jd-> Later, MIyano!
[08:44:51:PM] <@Jd-> I gotta prep a release for today
[08:44:53:PM] <@Jd-> (IT IS A HYPE ONE)
[08:45:01:PM] <+Monsi> :ooooooooooooooo
[08:45:07:PM] <+Monsi> ANOTHER RELEASE?????????????????????????????????
[08:45:19:PM] <+Stop>
[08:45:22:PM] <+Jex>
[08:46:22:PM] <+Monsi> ...
[08:46:23:PM] <@Jd-> ...But it's not DCTP-related ;____________;
[08:46:35:PM] <@Jd-> And Stop: You should definitely watch two things
[08:46:35:PM] <+Jex>
[08:46:35:PM] <@Jd-> 1) Religulous, a Bill Maher documentary
[08:46:35:PM] <+Stop> Say, I can't save logs on this app. Can someone put this discussion up on the chat log thread until I get onto my laptop?
[08:46:47:PM] <@Jd-> 2) Real Time with Bill Maher, his weekly discussion show
[08:46:54:PM] <@Jd-> It's unlike other shows--no editing or anything
[08:46:56:PM] <@Jd-> Happens live ("Real Time", brilliant!) over the course of one hour
[08:47:02:PM] <@Jd-> That sounds like a job for Monsi!
[08:47:04:PM] <@Jd-> Monsiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii~~!
[08:47:12:PM] <+Stop> :x
[08:47:16:PM] <+Stop> Hide, monsi!
[08:47:28:PM] * +Monsi hides on his dark corner.
[08:47:29:PM] <+Stop> And I'll look into them .
[08:47:41:PM] <+Stop> "On"?
[08:47:50:PM] <+Monsi> *in :x
[08:47:54:PM] <+Monsi> *over
[08:48:08:PM] <+Monsi> or whatever :x
[08:48:16:PM] <+Monsi> You get the point. :V
[08:48:30:PM] <+Stop> I do?
[08:48:38:PM] <+Stop> (Sorry)
[08:48:58:PM] * +Jex breaks pencil tip
[08:49:13:PM] <+Jex> No more point
[08:49:21:PM] <+Stop> It's pointless.
[08:49:25:PM] <+Jex>
[08:49:42:PM] <+Stop>
[08:50:01:PM] <+Jex> Like that picture
[08:50:55:PM] <+Monsi> Getting the logs...

[miyano_shiho]

^ For Ginbot's BFF

[14:05:09] <+miyano_shiho> !who is your BFF?
[14:05:10] <+Ginbot> Onigiri-Bot
[14:05:15] <+miyano_shiho> :O
[14:05:25] <Takagi> See?
[14:05:32] <Takagi> That's how mean that bot is.
[14:05:42] <+miyano_shiho> !ask is Monsi your BFF?
[14:05:43] <+Ginbot> Yes \o/
[14:05:50] <+miyano_shiho> There
[14:06:06] <+miyano_shiho>
[14:06:19] <Takagi> !ask Am I really your BFF, Ginbot?
[14:06:19] <+Ginbot> Yes \o/
[14:06:27] <Takagi> !ask Sure?
[14:06:27] <+Ginbot> Yes \o/
[14:06:31] <Takagi> ...
[14:06:39] <Takagi> I'm not buying it.
[14:06:57] <+miyano_shiho> XDDDD
[14:07:29] <+miyano_shiho> aww

[monsi]

[20:35] *** Jecka is now known as Jex|Pancakes
[20:35] <miyano_shiho> Oh
[20:35] <Jex|Pancakes> \o/
[20:35] <Memesu> \o/
[20:35] <Nix_> \o/
[20:35] <miyano_shiho> \o/
[20:36] <Stop> Miyano, Jd- o/
[20:36] <Nix_> And miyano
[20:36] <Stop> Pancakes *_*
[20:36] <Nix_> Pancakes :33
[20:36] <Nix_> And movie 9, nice
[20:36] <Jex|Pancakes> it's independence day I demand pancakes
[20:36] <miyano_shiho> Btw Hi Jd- Jecka Meme Nix Stop
[20:37] <Memesu> Miyano
[20:39] <miyano_shiho> I keep reading 'pancakes' as 'pancreas' *shot* :V
[20:39] <Nix_> :V

[Raifuujin]

Ah, how I love confusion....

[19:42] <+Raijin> Rai-chan \o/ Monsi \o/ Miaka \o/ prof \o/ pofa-keibu \o/
[19:43] <+Matsuda> Hi Rai-kun o/
[19:43] <Miaka> Hi?
[19:44] <+Raijin> Hi!
[19:45] <+Raijin> !stalk Conia
[19:45] * Ginbot stalks Conia and finds out they secretly support Megure x Bourbon!
[19:45] <+Ganondork> Pofa Bourbon
[19:46] <Monsi> ...
[19:46] <+Jeckers> :V
[19:46] <Monsi> I already greeted you earlier, KaiRai. :x
[19:47] <+Matsuda> V:
[19:47] <Monsi> Don't ":V" me, you meanie.
[19:47] <Monsi> :V
[19:48] <+Matsuda> ...But that's Rai V:
[19:48] <+Jeckers> ^
[19:48] <+Jeckers> :x
[19:48] <Miaka> ?
[19:48] <+Jeckers> Rai is Fuujin Raiden's Raijin
[19:48] <Monsi> Er...you *are* Rai. :x
[19:49] <Monsi> ............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... ...............................
[19:49] <+Jeckers> Rai calls Raiden "rai" :V
[19:49] <+Jeckers> *Rai
[19:49] <Monsi> ......................................... ....................................
[19:50] <+Jeckers> This could become very confusing for some people
[19:50] <Monsi> Especially me.
[19:50] * Miaka is lost again.
[19:50] <+Megure> Lol
0[19:52] <Monsi> .........................................
[19:52] <Monsi> Raijin is Raifuujin?
[19:52] <+Jeckers> No