Random Poll of the Day! (694)

[xpon]

Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Brunei, Australia and USA. I've done a transit in Japan and Hong Kong (China) before but not sure if that counts. I'm definitely planning to add on to the list in the future.

you need to stop by in indonesia .... you only fly over it and not stopping by ... make me sad.

for me.. just 1.

[Hime-Chan]

well, that make 3 for me, France, Italy and Great-Britain!

[mangaluva]

Which part of the GB? I personally count Scotland, Wales, England and Nor'n Ireland as separate countries because they are. Not to mention RoIreland.

[PT]

US and Canada.

I'm definitely planning to add on to the list in the future.

^ This

[Callid]

Which part of the GB? I personally count Scotland, Wales, England and Nor'n Ireland as separate countries because they are. Not to mention RoIreland.

They aren't separate countries
Just like Bavaria isn't a separate country either
I mean, even Hongkong isn't a separate country from China :x

[mangaluva]

Scotland, England, Wales and Ireland are separate countries. The two parts of Ireland are debatable, but the United Kingdom is four separate countries. United under one crown, but still four countries. Hong Kong and Bavaria are states, not countries, so that's more comparable to saying that Texas is a different country from the USA.

[dilbertschalter]

Scotland, England, Wales and Ireland are separate countries. The two parts of Ireland are debatable, but the United Kingdom is four separate countries. United under one crown, but still four countries. Hong Kong and Bavaria are states, not countries, so that's more comparable to saying that Texas is a different country from the USA.

they are not sovereign states, which is what people usually mean by country. the united under own crown, but still different countries describes accurately the state of affairs in the 1600s.

[mangaluva]

Well, the first thing on the wikipedia page for "country" does say "Not to be confused with sovereign state"...

They're not considered to be the same country by their inhabitants, in any case. Ask anyone in the UK if England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales are the same country and they'll either laugh hysterically or fly into a blind rage The UK is a sovereign state, but it's not a country.

[KangarooGirl]

Also Callid, Hong Kong used to be separate from China. I still have trouble remembering it's part of China now even though it's been so many years since it went back to being part of China. And not sure if it can be counted as a state. Does China have states?

[ranger]

six

U.S., China, Mexico, Taiwan, Japan, Thailand

[Callid]

Well, the first thing on the wikipedia page for "country" does say "Not to be confused with sovereign state"...

They're not considered to be the same country by their inhabitants, in any case. Ask anyone in the UK if England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales are the same country and they'll either laugh hysterically or fly into a blind rage The UK is a sovereign state, but it's not a country.

I think we should work out exact definitions on what constitutes a country, state or nation before continuing
Also, if we go by name, Bavaria is both a state and a country - it's official name is "Free State of Bavaria", and it's one of the Länder of Germany (Land = country) :x

[Stopwatch]

[me=Stopwatch]is with Manga on the UK being made up of different countries...[/me]

[dilbertschalter]

it's certainly true as a matter de jure status that they are literally described as "countries", it's just that that aren't really what people think of as countries in any meaningful sense. as callid noted, you can technically referring to germany as being made up of constituent countries, even though that certainly isn't the case in practice. with the uk, it's a similar situation you have "countries" by name, but not bodies that can actually exercise power over their territory- indeed, until recently, the UK was much less devolved than germany, though that has changed recently in some ways.

[Stopwatch]

My view on the Germany stuff was that they were more like the counties we have over here...
Wikipedia wasn't much help with any legal differences, so I'm only going off what was mentioned last year really... :x
Still, imo, they're all thought of as 'German' whereas in the UK, saying whether you're from your country or 'British' is more... well, dependent on the individual. If you were on holiday somewhere and they asked you which country you were from, plenty of people from N.Ireland would identify themselves as that first, same with some others who like to separate themselves from 'Britishness'. With all the Britain apparently being England (not true btw) that loads of others presume it'd get *extremely* annoying to be identified as English just 'cause you mentioned you're from Britain.

I think I lost the point of this post somewhere... oh well :x

[MaitreDétective]

England (best country I've ever been in ), France (I live here), Spain (beach and sun for only a day), Ireland (where my aunt live) and Guadeloupe (though technically not a country)