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- Laurell
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Re: NEED CRITICS for my NOVEL
About the missing "s" in the masterpiece, my mistake.
That is what critics are for, right? Soon, I'll be able to post it here. But I'll only post the summary and I'll see what you think about it.
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Wow. You're a Filipino, right? BTW, the problem with the "masterpiece" is that it's missing its "s".ziraulo wrote: I'm curious...show me what you've got! 8)
I don't think calling it a masterpiece is a bad sign. After all, it's pretty subjective. To me, calling a certain work a masterpiece just means it's your best one so far.
Soooo.....where is it?I wanna seeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
"one of my masterpiece"
Correct: "one of my masterpieces"
Don't worry. I'll post it in the near future.
- Laurell
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To those who are asking for it, I guess I should tell you a glimpse of it so that you'll have a clue on what you're about to read.
Genre: Detective/Mystery, a bit Sci-Fi, Romance, Adventure
PROLOGUE:
The year is 2019, set in the future Republic of the Philippines which is no longer a third world country due to the support of the organization called as the "Paradigmatic Ordinal". Time traveling is possible, thanks to the efforts of scientists in the org. However, the organization changed its ways after something happened. To change everything, an agent was sent to the past to change the future. That ends the first sci-fi conflict.
Lots of cases are about to happen next. So once I posted my work, it's time for you the judge it.
Genre: Detective/Mystery, a bit Sci-Fi, Romance, Adventure
PROLOGUE:
The year is 2019, set in the future Republic of the Philippines which is no longer a third world country due to the support of the organization called as the "Paradigmatic Ordinal". Time traveling is possible, thanks to the efforts of scientists in the org. However, the organization changed its ways after something happened. To change everything, an agent was sent to the past to change the future. That ends the first sci-fi conflict.
Lots of cases are about to happen next. So once I posted my work, it's time for you the judge it.
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Time travel with mysteries, eh?
That cannot end well for the readers' brains.
That cannot end well for the readers' brains.
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I agreeAkonyl wrote: Time travel with mysteries, eh?
That cannot end well for the readers' brains.
ps: IMO setting it in 2019 is just to soon...maybe 2039
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Re: NEED CRITICS for my NOVEL
is there peace in the middle east yet?Laurell wrote: The year is 2019,
I don't mind, but it's fantasy gener.Laurell wrote: @Kor - You're a writer also? Well, may I read your work?

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Yep, I'm Filipino! Nga pala, who's president in there? 
The time travel thing is okay with me, although I do agree with Ctu that it's set too soon.
The time travel thing is okay with me, although I do agree with Ctu that it's set too soon.
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First of all, I hope that time traveling would be possible so that mistakes of the mankind can be undone or avoided, just like what the story wanted to express.Ctu wrote:I agreeAkonyl wrote: Time travel with mysteries, eh?
That cannot end well for the readers' brains.
ps: IMO setting it in 2019 is just to soon...maybe 2039![]()
About the year, the reason why I set the date at that year is because it will be the most convenient date. Why 2019 to 2009? Because the organization was formed when the members were still in high school, though it's still a small group by that time. So, if the members of the org are 16 during 2009, they will be 26 in 2019. The past of 2009 is linked to the future 2019, not saying that this story is partially based on my experiences in school.
And I know that the time traveling thing would be a problem in connecting with mysteries. I'm having a problem with the explanation of this matter. However, it's only on the prologue of the story. The story proper is really in 2009. The ending might be set in the future. Hmm... To make things easier to understand, just think of time traveling as the APTX of DC.
P.S. Don't worry. I won't be writing any complex theories about time. It's just the trigger for the story to start.
- Laurell
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The president is GMA again? Haha. I guess I won't be emphasizing on that since that's only the Prologue. But there will be a new President, the one who created the ruckus in the story that forced some people to send an agent to the past. I'll be posting the summary soon so that some doubts will be clarified. (I hope.ziraulo wrote: Yep, I'm Filipino! Nga pala, who's president in there?
The time travel thing is okay with me, although I do agree with Ctu that it's set too soon.
P.S. I want to promote our country through this story. However, the medium I used is English and some of our time-tested values won't be included. Is there an English for "po" and "opo?"
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Ah...basta sana wag mo na balik yung buset...
Unfortunately, I don't think there's an English equivalent for "po" and "opo". The best thing you could do is to have the characters talk in a more formal way when talking to superiors, older people, etc.
Unfortunately, I don't think there's an English equivalent for "po" and "opo". The best thing you could do is to have the characters talk in a more formal way when talking to superiors, older people, etc.
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Personally I don't like that idea. Because every time mankind tries to fix a mistake, it usually turns into more problems or a bigger problem D:Laurell wrote: First of all, I hope that time traveling would be possible so that mistakes of the mankind can be undone or avoided, just like what the story wanted to express.

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I guess I'm like Evangelion then.Kor wrote: It's funny how everyone interpret what Slider said in a different meaning.
Except not emo and painful to watch.
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Laurell wrote: About the missing "s" in the masterpiece, my mistake.That is what critics are for, right? Soon, I'll be able to post it here. But I'll only post the summary and I'll see what you think about it.
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sstimson wrote:Let me enter my critic mode. That is one possible answer. The rule you are breaking is about number, You need to keep it all singular or plural, not mix caseAkonyl wrote:yep, forgot the S on the end.Heiji-lover7 wrote:Because that was bad grammer.Kleene Onigiri wrote:Probably because if it's your masterpiece already, then you can't improve? Dunno if that's what he meantLaurell wrote:Why?kkslider5552000 wrote:that's not a good signLaurell wrote: to one of my masterpiece.
But anyway, you should review Kor's book and have him review yours, you can have a critique swap. :O
Your statement
After I encode the summary, I hope there will be some people out there who are willing to give their comments (either positive or negative) to one of my masterpiece.
should be
After I encode the summary, I hope there will be a few people out there who are willing to leave a few comments (either positive or negative) about my masterpiece.
The phase "one of" suggest more then one and removing it fixes the sentences
Few to me reads better then some.
And 'leave a few comments' again to me reads better then 'give their comments'.
Plural:
After I encode the summary, I hope there will be a few people out there who are willing to leave a few comments (either positive or negative) to one of my many masterpieces.
There is a problem about is called cause / effectKleene Onigiri wrote:Personally I don't like that idea. Because every time mankind tries to fix a mistake, it usually turns into more problems or a bigger problem D:Laurell wrote: First of all, I hope that time traveling would be possible so that mistakes of the mankind can be undone or avoided, just like what the story wanted to express.
You go back in time to fix a problem and you succeed. So The problem you went back to fix never happened.
But if that is the cases why did you go back in time to fix a problem that never happened. And how would you know you need to go back to fix the problem that never happened if it never happened.
You have created a time Paradox
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My problem with the time travel thing wasn't how to tie it in to the mystery, it's how to avoid the question of "why didn't they just go back in time after solving the mystery and stopping the crime from happening?"Laurell wrote: And I know that the time traveling thing would be a problem in connecting with mysteries. I'm having a problem with the explanation of this matter. However, it's only on the prologue of the story. The story proper is really in 2009. The ending might be set in the future. Hmm... To make things easier to understand, just think of time traveling as the APTX of DC.
Which, if you're just using it as a plot element like APTX is in Conan and not an integral part of the mystery, shouldn't be a problem.
not *everything* in life is like Escaflowne.Kleene Onigiri wrote:Personally I don't like that idea. Because every time mankind tries to fix a mistake, it usually turns into more problems or a bigger problem D:Laurell wrote: First of all, I hope that time traveling would be possible so that mistakes of the mankind can be undone or avoided, just like what the story wanted to express.
Also, you said "usually", so maybe this can just be a story about one of those exceptions.
a) I dunno why you quoted yourself in here unless it was to reiterate your previous post, in which case I don't know why you're arguing against the person who said it in the first placesstimson wrote:There is a problem about is called cause / effectKleene Onigiri wrote:Personally I don't like that idea. Because every time mankind tries to fix a mistake, it usually turns into more problems or a bigger problem D:Laurell wrote: First of all, I hope that time traveling would be possible so that mistakes of the mankind can be undone or avoided, just like what the story wanted to express.
You go back in time to fix a problem and you succeed. So The problem you went back to fix never happened.
But if that is the cases why did you go back in time to fix a problem that never happened. And how would you know you need to go back to fix the problem that never happened if it never happened.
You have created a time Paradox
b) While grandfather paradoxes may exist in time travel, you can easily explain them away by either using multiple timelines, or saying "your current understanding of time is wrong, and the way things happen, grandfather paradoxes aren't a problem". Yes, the second one defies logic but that isn't very uncommon in sci-fi and fantasy works.
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In fiction, usually this paradox is ignored.sstimson wrote: There is a problem about is called cause / effect
You go back in time to fix a problem and you succeed. So The problem you went back to fix never happened.
But if that is the cases why did you go back in time to fix a problem that never happened. And how would you know you need to go back to fix the problem that never happened if it never happened.
You have created a time Paradox
If I recall correctly, this was how it worked in DBZ. Trunks could only change the "present" timeline, but his actions in the present, couldn't change his timeline (the future).Akonyl wrote: b) While grandfather paradoxes may exist in time travel, you can easily explain them away by either using multiple timelines,
In Sailor Moon (the anime) however, many things should probably have changed in the future, but only at the start of Sailor Stars Chibiusa was about to disappear. I believe though that it had the concept of "Time can fix itself and not effect heavilly on the future" so only real drastic events (like somebody dying) would change the future.
Both seem like good options to me, aside from the flaws. Option one can become complicated and option two is a very easy way to go and it also says that the universe goes in a specific road, and if something happens, the universe will somehow fix it in order to not slide from the certain road.




