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hey it IS possible that they ARE the same.. because, his father was killed 8 years before right? - it can be, that they changed their nicknames from animals to alkohol, because they got a new boss.... so it really can BE possilbe that they are the same (but i dont REALLY think so.. )
its just a guess so.. ^^

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I'm not above assuming that the MK baddies are a subset of the BO. They may not be full-fledged (pardon the animal pun) members of the BO, but quite possibly are subordinates of BO members.
There is so little logic in Conan... The whole series is about a 17-year-old detective, shrunken by a totally illogical mystery drug into the size of a 7-year-old. Said child goes around with a stun gun and a magical voice-changing bow-tie solving mysteries and not raising suspicions from anyone at all.
The only thing less "logical" in Magic Kaito then in Detective Conan is the existence of real magic (which has not been touched on in Conan).
In fact, MK could be said to be more "logical" than DC (except when cases are involved) because of the amount of people who actually suspect Kaito=KID.
That made me lol.prince.ngoc wrote: Making them into one would take out the logical part of Conan. Detective Conan is a *detective* series - so things should be based on logic (in this case, + some acceptable fantasy - eg: the gadgets, APTX, etc...). But I think if Gosho mentions things like "jewels that cry tears of immortality"... that's a bit too far-fetched.
There is so little logic in Conan... The whole series is about a 17-year-old detective, shrunken by a totally illogical mystery drug into the size of a 7-year-old. Said child goes around with a stun gun and a magical voice-changing bow-tie solving mysteries and not raising suspicions from anyone at all.
The only thing less "logical" in Magic Kaito then in Detective Conan is the existence of real magic (which has not been touched on in Conan).
In fact, MK could be said to be more "logical" than DC (except when cases are involved) because of the amount of people who actually suspect Kaito=KID.
So Haibara's "radar" goes off at odd times, right? And she thinks that it is linked to the Black Org, right?
But all of the times it's gone off, there have been FBI (or suspected FBI) members there...
So, it's an FBI radar.
But all of the times it's gone off, there have been FBI (or suspected FBI) members there...
So, it's an FBI radar.
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another thing, has there been any proof that that jewel actually exists? (or can actually cause people to be immortal?)Hydok wrote: I'm not above assuming that the MK baddies are a subset of the BO. They may not be full-fledged (pardon the animal pun) members of the BO, but quite possibly are subordinates of BO members.
That made me lol.prince.ngoc wrote: Making them into one would take out the logical part of Conan. Detective Conan is a *detective* series - so things should be based on logic (in this case, + some acceptable fantasy - eg: the gadgets, APTX, etc...). But I think if Gosho mentions things like "jewels that cry tears of immortality"... that's a bit too far-fetched.
There is so little logic in Conan... The whole series is about a 17-year-old detective, shrunken by a totally illogical mystery drug into the size of a 7-year-old. Said child goes around with a stun gun and a magical voice-changing bow-tie solving mysteries and not raising suspicions from anyone at all.
The only thing less "logical" in Magic Kaito then in Detective Conan is the existence of real magic (which has not been touched on in Conan).
In fact, MK could be said to be more "logical" than DC (except when cases are involved) because of the amount of people who actually suspect Kaito=KID.
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As I said in another topic as well, it has long been hinted that Kaito Kuroba's father may have fallen under the BO. In MK he fell before a large criminal organization who's after Pandora's gem, which weeps tears of immortality upon consumption during the passing of a special comet. The only known facts about it are that it's a doublet (one gem inside another) and it glows red under the full moon. So Kuroba takes on the identity of his father as KID to search over the world for the gem and vows to destroy it before the organization finds it.
On the other hand, it has been hinted mulitple times in DC that the BO aims to live forever, to reverse aging, to revive the dead, or something on the line of immortality. Such examples include Haibara's famous quote "humans cannot reverse/stop time, if they try to be force, they will be severely punished" and the diary by the game software designer whom Conan impersonated to make a deal with Vodka to attempt to arrest him.
And since both series are done by Gosho, it's highly possible that Conan and KID have been facing the same enemy and don't know it yet. Some websites already claim that the crime organization in MK is BO, although I don't know how much truth's in that. They will probably work together as the perfect secret agent duo if they do realize that they are facing the same enemy.
So far we can't be completely sure; we'll probably have to wait until when Gosho decides to end DC.
On the other hand, it has been hinted mulitple times in DC that the BO aims to live forever, to reverse aging, to revive the dead, or something on the line of immortality. Such examples include Haibara's famous quote "humans cannot reverse/stop time, if they try to be force, they will be severely punished" and the diary by the game software designer whom Conan impersonated to make a deal with Vodka to attempt to arrest him.
And since both series are done by Gosho, it's highly possible that Conan and KID have been facing the same enemy and don't know it yet. Some websites already claim that the crime organization in MK is BO, although I don't know how much truth's in that. They will probably work together as the perfect secret agent duo if they do realize that they are facing the same enemy.
So far we can't be completely sure; we'll probably have to wait until when Gosho decides to end DC.

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Kaito Kid's evil organization not being the BO could be another awesome plot twist.
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You know, should Yaiba series have some BO, then we could agree that MK's and DC's BO is probably the same.
Also, in Yaiba (which comes first if i'm not mistaken) Magic is all there is. Then a little amount of it in MK, and none in DC.
I think that stone does exist, otherwise it will be a great deal of ancient joke. XD
There is something that bothers me - i can understand why would BO seek regeneration ability (look at Wolverine, around 100 y.o. but looks like an average guy XD), or Immortality and Regeneration (you can live hundreds of years, but you still aging) but resurrection...
I mean, why would Boss, should he acquire reverse aging and immortality would want resurrect someone? Could it be that he, very much like Pegasus from Yu-Gi-Oh!, want to be reunited with his long lost love or something?
I remember that OVA when Conan, Kaito and Yaiba got together and caused some serious nightmare to poor Conan XD
I wish they could met in real life XD And bring BO down like that =)
Also, in Yaiba (which comes first if i'm not mistaken) Magic is all there is. Then a little amount of it in MK, and none in DC.
I think that stone does exist, otherwise it will be a great deal of ancient joke. XD
There is something that bothers me - i can understand why would BO seek regeneration ability (look at Wolverine, around 100 y.o. but looks like an average guy XD), or Immortality and Regeneration (you can live hundreds of years, but you still aging) but resurrection...
I mean, why would Boss, should he acquire reverse aging and immortality would want resurrect someone? Could it be that he, very much like Pegasus from Yu-Gi-Oh!, want to be reunited with his long lost love or something?
I remember that OVA when Conan, Kaito and Yaiba got together and caused some serious nightmare to poor Conan XD
I wish they could met in real life XD And bring BO down like that =)
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No it cant be the same organisation because an organisationmember which killed toichi was called "Snake" and Snake isnt an alcoholname.

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Well, in some Asiatic countries, they do use snakes in alcoholic drinks: http://www.loupiote.com/photos/2663102041.shtml
Anyways, I don't remember whether other animal names were used in MK, so I can't check them right now.
Anyways, I don't remember whether other animal names were used in MK, so I can't check them right now.
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But Toichi and Vermouth were friends.. Vermouth wouldnt be a member of an organisation which killed her friend..Kite wrote: Well, in some Asiatic countries, they do use snakes in alcoholic drinks: http://www.loupiote.com/photos/2663102041.shtml
Anyways, I don't remember whether other animal names were used in MK, so I can't check them right now.
Dont you think so?

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maybe Vermouth does not know that Toichi's gonna get killed?