Conan's behavoir

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I could not understand Conan for quite a while. He didn't doubt Amuro, Sera or Okiya. He doesn't notice that they may be in extreme  danger. He doesn't  know that Bourbon is close on their heels. Actually, he always knows if they have been in danger or if the BO chases after them. What's wrong with him? He's so careless.
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I'm going to assume he's not being as careless as he appears to be.
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Simple answer: They are Holmes fans

Complicated answer: He know something that we dont.
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Maybe those three are from FBI or 2 (Mybe he thinks sera is a normal teen) and they have a plan but still nonsence =/ and maybe your right there has been alot of character development in each character maybe conan gain overconfident because he succeded to corrupt all the BO plan and gosho will make him alert by a huge BO case that he could've lost one or more people that he is close to but haibarais still alert to them all so maybe haibara is the one who will handle the next BO arrc =D
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I think he knows something that we don't. With Okiya in particular, I completely refuse to believe that he took the man into his home on the basis that "He's a Holmes fan!"
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mangaluva wrote: I think he knows something that we don't. With Okiya in particular, I completely refuse to believe that he took the man into his home on the basis that "He's a Holmes fan!"
....Especially after that murder case where they were all Holmes fans.

I think that the reason Conan isn't suspicious right now is that no one close to him is doing anything bad that he knows about (exempting Scar Akai), and Haibara hasn't gotten any kind of reaction (that she told Conan about) from anyone targeting them except for Okiya who is safe. Conan tends to assume it is safe unless he has some sort of evidence or hunch. Remember, Conan wasn't suspicious of Jodie or Araide until the bus jack case when Haibara implied one of them might be a Black Org member coming after her. He was suspicious of Eisuke because he looks just like Rena.

With the current people, Okiya is Akai so he is safe. Sera is looking into Conan more than a normal person should, but that doesn't mean she is Black Org, and on top of that Conan has sufficiently good vibes from her that he has afforded her some benefit of the doubt (probably because she looks like Akai.) It's not really a great reason, but considering how Conan was suspicious of Eisuke at first just because he looked like Rena means it's on par for Conan's hunches. Amuro is some random dude who became Kogoro's apprentice. It's troublesome because he thinks Mouri is a better detective than he is, but otherwise he seems to check out on the surface.  Conan wasn't around for most of the hostage case and so didn't know Amuro held back info that Conan had been kidnapped. Scar Akai is super suspicious, but Conan has no idea where he is and doesn't know about Sera's encounter. Therefore, Conan is probably assuming the guy is messing with the FBI, not him, so it's only a matter of him and Okiya not doing anything to link themselves visibly to the FBI or attract the Black Org's attention.

If Conan is going to do digging on anyone right now, it's going to be on Sera, unless Conan hears some of the info about Amuro from Okiya, Scar Akai from Sera, or Haibara's feeling from behind during the car chase.
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I think Conan already knows who is who..
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: If Conan is going to do digging on anyone right now, it's going to be on Sera, unless Conan hears some of the info about Amuro from Okiya, Scar Akai from Sera, or Haibara's feeling from behind during the car chase.
Hmm... I wonder why Haibara never told anything to Conan that she felt an "extra" BO member during the chase ? She saw Amuro (and probably Sera too) at the end, so the source that triggered her "BO sense" might have come from one or both of them (I don't think she saw Vermouth). But she never told anyone that, which is dangerous because both of them seems to be close with Conan and the Mouris. And speaking of which, Ai also never cared about who Amuro is and why is he hanging around them...
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Conan knows that maybe Bourbon is spying on them. Jodie-sensei already told Conan Ai could be in great danger and he has to protect her. Despite the facts he is careless. He has to assume that they will never safe because the thought itself is naive. The BO would kill everybody if they know Shinichi's secret. At least he should watch out.
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I think Conan figured some stuff out based on the Holmes fan thesis.
I would have to go through all the cases again to proof that to you but I give you the word of Meitantei Mouri Kogorou ;)
Basically he must have set up some traps to figure it out. Maybe they weren't all shown so we have to wait.
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On the recent case I'm feeling de ja vu, it's like something going to happen. With good reasons, Conan already has an impression after met Amuro. If he has to see Amuro work together, I don't think he will see one day because Conan was not supposed to reveal much himself if he has to work with them. If Amuro is Bourbon, Gosho has reasons to have them separated not to involve in fight.

If Conan and Okiya are in team, Okiya is first to start the arc as he's the main character of B.O. plot. It's likely the arc is about Okiya and Bourbon, and Conan is involve as well to bring aid when it's necessary. After I read, I think it's matter of time Okiya able to figure out Conan is Shinichi and if something happen such as he time and predict he was going to be exposed soon but in safe hands he definitely ask for help and lending hands for Shinichi.
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mangaluva wrote: I think he knows something that we don't. With Okiya in particular, I completely refuse to believe that he took the man into his home on the basis that "He's a Holmes fan!"
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I don't really think Conan can't sense danger at all. He never suspected Dr. Araide before (Vermouth in disguised).
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selby wrote: I don't really think Conan can sense danger at all. He never suspected Dr. Araide before (Vermouth in disguised).
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selby wrote: I don't really think Conan can't sense danger at all. He never suspected Dr. Araide before (Vermouth in disguised).
He can sense danger?  I know Haibara has the whole B.O. sense, but I'm pretty sure Conan just said something about having a "detective's sense", but I don't think that means he's psychic.  I think he just uses his attention to detail to tell when someone's lying, then deducts from there.
That said, I think Conan knows quite a lot that we don't.  For example:
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In 812 he spazzes out over Sonoko and Sera going to his house, and since he knows Sonoko helps clean his house, it has to be Sera coming that he's worried about.  If the theories that Sera is Akai's sister and Akai is Okiya are true, then that's probably why he didn't want her going in his house.
He's already proved he thinks before acting, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
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