Question on Yukiko's age

[Mirror]

I'm now trying to create my theory on Vermouth and need to know some facts.

1:Yukiko's age
2:How older is Sharon than Yukiko?
3:where I can refer to for these facts

I hope that someone has the answers to these questions.

Thank you!

[KainTheVampire]

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Yukiko_Kudo

Answer 1. 37

[Wakarimashita]

1-Yukiko is 37.
2-We don't know her age.
3-Conan Drill page 58 (Detective Conan World Wiki)

[Stopwatch]

1 and 3 have been answered, unfortunately 2 is unclear, but I can give roughly a minimum age of 'Sharon'.
When we first see 'Chris' she's 29 years old, for Sharon to have realistically* had a daughter who was that age she'd have to be about twenty years older or more than Chris, so 'Sharon' would be 49 or older, meaning twelve years or more between her and Yukiko. Never realised the difference was so big before o_O.
Vermouth's probably older than 'Sharon' though, so no idea about that part

*While 'Sharon' didn't actually have 'Chris' I doubt she would mess up that badly in regards to the ages of them, faking having Chris at an unrealistic age would draw attention Vermouth doesn't want.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

When we first see 'Chris' she's 29 years old, for Sharon to have realistically* had a daughter who was that age she'd have to be about twenty years older or more than Chris, so 'Sharon' would be 49 or older, meaning twelve years or more between her and Yukiko. Never realised the difference was so big before o_O.
Vermouth's probably older than 'Sharon' though, so no idea about that part

*While 'Sharon' didn't actually have 'Chris' I doubt she would mess up that badly in regards to the ages of them, faking having Chris at an unrealistic age would draw attention Vermouth doesn't want.

This, especially that last sentence.

I generally favor ballparking Sharon's supposed age between 50 and 60, with 50-55 preferable, assuming 9 months + 29 years ≈30 years.

The following timeline of known events may help which is based on the 50-60 estimation for Sharon's age.
~probably 30-35 years ago - Sharon debuts on screen, her parents die in a fire (Sharon's age ≈ 15-25),
30 years ago - Sharon pretends to be pregnant with Chris (Sharon's age ≈ 20-30), she wins an Oscar, her husband dies.
30 years ago - the Miyanos begin research, likely connected to the Black Org ("Atsushi Miyano moved out of his father's house thirty years ago to go somewhere for his research")
~20 years ago - Sharon started with Toichi (age ≈ 30-40)
~20 years ago - Vermouth killed Jodie's father with a 20-30 year old face
~10 years ago - Chris is old enough to switch into as a role, Chris goes independent from Sharon (Chris' age = 18-19, Sharon's age = 40-50)
< 1 year ago - Sharon dies (age ≈ 50-60)
< 1 year ago - Chris comes out into public besides movies and publicity interviews. (age = 28-29)

[sstimson]

I will disagree and again say that chris was real ( If you want you can then say Chris was murdered and Sharon took her place)

Why do you not allow the possibility of Chris existence? Sharon said she was married, she could be lying, but she could also be telling the truth. Again Look at some of the questions the media asked Chris at Sharon death. Not being able to answer those questions would cause the unwanted attention, she does not want. Think about the possible story, and if a few reporter disappear after learning the truth, then the story gets even bigger.Yes they make people from nothing in the WP program but they I believe do so from people who did exist and would be the right age had they lived. Chris had to exist. There are way too many problems for her not to. Too many unanswered question for her not to have had a history. She had to exist as a a real child, and even though Sharon does not seem like the mother kind, having a husband allows the possibility that they had a child.

[Cider]

I agree with Chekhov's timeline and its assumptions on Chris' existence. I personally always favor the idea of Chris being real, because thinking Gin would make martini with a 50 year old woman is just gross.
However, how do you explain the fingerprints at Jodie's house matching Chris' fingerprints?

When we first see 'Chris' she's 29 years old, for Sharon to have realistically* had a daughter who was that age she'd have to be about twenty years older or more than Chris, so 'Sharon' would be 49 or older, meaning twelve years or more between her and Yukiko. Never realised the difference was so big before o_O.
Vermouth's probably older than 'Sharon' though, so no idea about that part

*While 'Sharon' didn't actually have 'Chris' I doubt she would mess up that badly in regards to the ages of them, faking having Chris at an unrealistic age would draw attention Vermouth doesn't want.

This, especially that last sentence.

I generally favor ballparking Sharon's supposed age between 50 and 60, with 50-55 preferable, assuming 9 months + 29 years ≈30 years.

The following timeline of known events may help which is based on the 50-60 estimation for Sharon's age.
~probably 30-35 years ago - Sharon debuts on screen, her parents die in a fire (Sharon's age ≈ 15-25),
30 years ago - Sharon pretends to be pregnant with Chris (Sharon's age ≈ 20-30), she wins an Oscar, her husband dies.
30 years ago - the Miyanos begin research, likely connected to the Black Org ("Atsushi Miyano moved out of his father's house thirty years ago to go somewhere for his research")
~20 years ago - Sharon started with Toichi (age ≈ 30-40)
~20 years ago - Vermouth killed Jodie's father with a 20-30 year old face
~10 years ago - Chris is old enough to switch into as a role, Chris goes independent from Sharon (Chris' age = 18-19, Sharon's age = 40-50)
< 1 year ago - Sharon dies (age ≈ 50-60)
< 1 year ago - Chris comes out into public besides movies and publicity interviews. (age = 28-29)

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I agree with Chekhov's timeline and its assumptions on Chris' existence. I personally always favor the idea of Chris being real, because thinking Gin would make martini with a 50 year old woman is just gross.
However, how do you explain the fingerprints at Jodie's house matching Chris' fingerprints?

The fingerprints are one of the clinchers, the other is Conan's deduction regarding Sharon's motive for protecting Shinichi and Ran.

I also want to bring up the possibility that Gin could be in the same not-aging boat as Vermouth. I have been thinking about it for a while, and while I don't see any evidence for it, it might be possible given the level of trust afforded to him. And maybe the silver hair color. He looks much too young for that, but maybe he dyes it, is albino, was a lab rat at one point, or has crazy genetics. I wish we had a Gin's family photo or something.

*Kinda wants to see a poll on what DCTP would do regarding Vermouth, but I am concerned the subject matter might be too risque.* "Assuming good looks, a nice personality, and all that, would you be intimate with a significant other who is physically your age, but may in actuality be much older than you? (Like Vermouth but whatever gender and personality is appropriate for you)" Maybe Kor would do it in offtopic. Maybe I need a poll on whether the Vermouth poll would be too risque?

[unclesporkums]

I also want to bring up the possibility that Gin could be in the same not-aging boat as Vermouth. I have been thinking about it for a while, and while I don't see any evidence for it, it might be possible given the level of trust afforded to him.

Then that would mean that he was possibly in the same speculative lab accident or ageing experiment as Sharon. Wouldn't a member like Pisco who warns Gin about killing "an old member like me" know that Gin has been around for that long? (*Knows that the explanation of this point will be child's play for Chek.*)

[sstimson]

This age is guess work but here it goes

Yukiko sounds like she got her big break in to show business while still in high school. At that time she would have been about 17 or 18
Eri went to law school and likely college so add say 8 years and at that time when Shinichi was about 7 to 8 meaning that Yukiko have Shinichi around 18
From what seem to be written a few years after Yukiko start she had leason from Kaito Dad, she be about 20 at this time but as Shinichi is also in the picture  that again we add between 8 to 10 years and say she here is 28
A year ago, they met Sharon and yes I getting there. I am guess as Shinichi is in High School and likely in the first year at the time he would be about between 14 and 15 years old meaning between 7 to 10 years have gone by so add 10 years to her age and she would now be 37 to 38.

Now for Sharon. I am guessing that at the time they both took leasons Sharon was in the field between 5 to 10 years. If Sharon started her career at age 30 then her age at KID's Dad training would be between 35 to 40 and that means the differences between their ages would be between 7 to 12 years making her 49 for Sharon.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I also want to bring up the possibility that Gin could be in the same not-aging boat as Vermouth. I have been thinking about it for a while, and while I don't see any evidence for it, it might be possible given the level of trust afforded to him.

Then that would mean that he was possibly in the same speculative lab accident or ageing experiment as Sharon. Wouldn't a member like Pisco who warns Gin about killing "an old member like me" know that Gin has been around for that long? (*Knows that the explanation of this point will be child's play for Chek.*)

Good point. No use in backing a weak theory after all.

[Borealis]

I agree with Chekhov's timeline and its assumptions on Chris' existence. I personally always favor the idea of Chris being real, because thinking Gin would make martini with a 50 year old woman is just gross.

Well does he know that she is 50+?

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I agree with Chekhov's timeline and its assumptions on Chris' existence. I personally always favor the idea of Chris being real, because thinking Gin would make martini with a 50 year old woman is just gross.

Well does he know that she is 50+?

Probably. Gin is pretty high ranking and in addition did not make any comments about her real appearance after the not-Halloween showdown. If Gin knows any of her past deeds in the Org which go back at least 20 years, he would realize there was something fishy going on with her aging. At least he should know about the fake death of Sharon and the circumstances behind it.

As for the awkwardness of the age difference, both are mature adults mentally and physically, and they are physically likely around the same age if you ballpark Gin to be between 25 and 35. By comparison, I think it is less screwed up than Gin and Shiho agewise.

This age is guess work but here it goes

Yukiko sounds like she got her big break in to show business while still in high school. At that time she would have been about 17 or 18
Eri went to law school and likely college so add say 8 years and at that time when Shinichi was about 7 to 8 meaning that Yukiko have Shinichi around 18
From what seem to be written a few years after Yukiko start she had leason from Kaito Dad, she be about 20 at this time but as Shinichi is also in the picture  that again we add between 8 to 10 years and say she here is 28
A year ago, they met Sharon and yes I getting there. I am guess as Shinichi is in High School and likely in the first year at the time he would be about between 14 and 15 years old meaning between 7 to 10 years have gone by so add 10 years to her age and she would now be 37 to 38.

Now for Sharon. I am guessing that at the time they both took leasons Sharon was in the field between 5 to 10 years. If Sharon started her career at age 30 then her age at KID's Dad training would be between 35 to 40 and that means the differences between their ages would be between 7 to 12 years making her 49 for Sharon.

Quick critique of the timeline here.
Shinichi is 16-17 and Yukiko is 37 meaning she had Shinichi when she was 20-21, not 18.
We know Yukiko started acting in high school from one of Yamaura's cases I think so I assume her lessons were when she was 16-18 as you said which translates to roughly 20 years ago as stated in my timeline. In addition, Yukiko has an upper bound on her time with Toichi because she retired when she married Yuusaku. Assuming Gosho is upholding traditional marriage principles, it is likely she married before Shinichi was born so at maximum her time with Yuusaku would be when she was 19-21. The Toichi thing could be as recent as 16-18 years ago although that is less likely than the 20 years because she would have relatively little time with Toichi and to acquire disguise skills.
The New York case was one year before the present timeline as stated in Golden Apple, so we know Shinichi was 15-16 and Yukiko 36.

In the current timeline, Chris is 29, so assuming Sharon had Chris between the ages of 20 and 30, Sharon would be ballpark 49 to 59 in the current timeline. In Golden Apple we subtract a year so she was 48-58 then. The difference between Yukiko and Sharon's ages are thus 12 to 22 years, not 7 to 12 years.

[sstimson]

yes but remember the case where Shinichi and Ran met though unknown Kaito Father and his message of ?. Shinichi would be in the grade where Conan is now I believe 3B. If we make Conan appearance age to be say 8, then it is likely that at the time he was also 8. Also believing that Shinichi is current in grade 11 in American high school years which would be 16- 18 make the events happened in grade school which should be between 8 to 10 years ago .Lets take the lesser and say 8 as in Both Shinichi at this event time ( Meeting the first KID) was eight , so eight years later he would be 16. We are saying that Yukiko is currently 37 so 16 years ago she would be in her 20's and had Shinichi at age 21.

Also while there is no question that she met with Toichi while Shinichi was in grade school, if not for lessons, then why? I find it a little hard to believe that she did it only to deliver Yuusaku's message and if I remember right, it is hinted she there to learn, meaning that at this time she was likely still an actress, but retired soon after this point.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

yes but remember the case where Shinichi and Ran met though unknown Kaito Father and his message of ?. Shinichi would be in the grade where Conan is now I believe 3B. If we make Conan appearance age to be say 8, then it is likely that at the time he was also 8. Also believing that Shinichi is current in grade 11 in American high school years which would be 16- 18 make the events happened in grade school which should be between 8 to 10 years ago .Lets take the lesser and say 8 as in Both Shinichi at this event time ( Meeting the first KID) was eight , so eight years later he would be 16. We are saying that Yukiko is currently 37 so 16 years ago she would be in her 20's and had Shinichi at age 21.

Conan is in class 1B. They number classes by grades so Conan is in first grade. http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki ... ary_School
We know Shinichi's age and Conan's age because of official references. Shinichi is 16 now in the manga. (anime said 17, they were wrong. )  Similarly Conan is 6-7 (Conan Drill Page 38)

Also while there is no question that she met with Toichi while Shinichi was in grade school, if not for lessons, then why? I find it a little hard to believe that she did it only to deliver Yuusaku's message and if I remember right, it is hinted she there to learn, meaning that at this time she was likely still an actress, but retired soon after this point.

Maybe she was meeting Toichi because he was a friend, and its nice to see your old friends? Also I am pretty sure that I read that she retired when she married Yuusaku.  It says that in the wiki too. I forget the exact chapter, if someone remembers could they point it out?