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Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 12:05 am
by 1337_Gaara
I think it was either the two girls or the two guys. How did those girls know that the witch had black nail polish? In a fog that dense with so little visibility that this trick works, it would be seemingly impossible to distinguish nail colors. Also, the one said she probably broke the middle nail when she "... was switching seats just now". There are so many subtly suspicious things about them, like the nails and the three sets of golf clubs, that leads me to believe they are the culprits. The guys aren't really all that suspicious, but it adds a nice irony, so I partially want it to be them. There is nothing I can think of that you could use a fishing rod for, unless you hung a silhouette in the fog, which is a good possibility. The only reason I say it isn't the couple is because that is just TOO obvious, and I have hopes that this case wouldn't be that simple.
This may seem odd, but I am getting the feeling that the grandma of the nitwit has an underlying purpose in this arc at least (other than giving Conan the hint about the light). There would be no reason to introduce, and in such a dramatic fashion, unless she had a purpose other than giving Conan info that Mr. Nitwit couldn't have provided (since he also believes in the whole Witch non-sense, and should have also seen the light). IDK, either way I can see her being a recurring character.
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 12:28 am
by GinRei
Here's my theory on the chapter:
**Spoilers (obviously, it's free go read the chapter first)**
I agree, it's either the 2 guys or the 2 girls. The nail polish was the main scene that made my suspicious of the girls. It doesn't appear in the translation, but in the raw the one girl uses her own name when talking about her friend's fingernails. We weren't sure if this was intentional or if it was a typo by Shonen Sunday / Gosho-sama. It was rather odd.
As for the guys, I'm suspicious of them because of the guy saying his ring cut him. If you notice where the cut is, it's on his right cheek. The only way it could be there due to some interaction between his seat and ring would be if he was trying to do something with his seat near that area. The only way his left hand would come into contact with his right cheek would be from grabbing a seat belt. However, that would be on the right side of the car, or the driver's seat. He specifically said his friend was the one driving, not him. His friend has a rather skrawny build, he could easily disguise his arm as a female's. These are my primary suspects at the moment for this very reason.
My next deduction is the identity of the true Silver-White Witch. I believe she was Detective Satou. Of particular note, is that when she's chasing the robber and takes the sharp turn, the sound effect is "Kyaaaa", or a female scream. That's right, the very same sound made by the Silver-White witch. She said she visited in that area in the past, and that it's been a while since she drove in such a way. She also says when she went there, she went quickly and didn't pay attention to other cars.
As for the method for the trick, I'm still not sure for that. The only thing I can think of is some sort of trick based on light, but I don't see how that really uses any of the items we've been presented.
I'm just expecting something big from this case, due to the "Shinichi Moment". Other than when he turned into Shinichi, the last time he had one of these moments that I can recall was when Eisuke revealed he knew Conan's identity.
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 1:21 am
by chitz38
good observation Ginrei. Esp the detective satou part it does sound logical but maybe she was the original "witch" that they are referring to as the one who drives really fast and someone just imitated her as being the witch cause her car isnt white and she wouldn't do the challenge jesture if she was in a hurry and not paying attention to the cars around right? my money's on both the guys as the imitators.

Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 11:24 am
by ppan91
i guess the grandma of the policeman plays a role in this arc. She is so suspicious as a hint to the boss of the BO, the philosophical way she talks about things and the place she lives...
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 3:28 pm
by sstimson
I Think it is the Guys. The Fishing equiment could be used to move a mirror. as in the "Victim" see a reflection of a tail light leading them to believe that the car went left towards the cliff.
Also they said it easier to speed but the Witch only shows on foggy days. So a normal person on a foggy day drives carely and SLOWLY as not to go over the edge. On a normal day, the traffic on the roads would know the Witch will not appear and not be scared.
Just my Thoughts SStimson
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 4:40 pm
by Rellik
addin on to wat ginrei sed about the true witch being Satou, then the 'imitating' one must either hav some grudge against Satou or her driving, since she is doing this to hurt ppl.
Or she could be the person that Satou always comes to see and maybe wanted to remember her by doing this.
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 4:42 pm
by Splinter
Golf equipment could also be used for the trick, I think.
Just put in the car trunk an iron, and make sure the clubhead stays out of the trunk, and in a way, you obtain a phenomenon of refraction implying this "red tail light"
With luck.
Maybe.
Obviously the hypothesis of fishing equipment moving a mirror is more credible, but anyway, the point was just to suggest another solution ^^
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 7:54 pm
by Pocky
Splinter wrote:
Golf equipment could also be used for the trick, I think.
Just put in the car trunk an iron, and make sure the clubhead stays out of the trunk, and in a way, you obtain a phenomenon of refraction implying this "red tail light"
With luck.
Maybe.
Obviously the hypothesis of fishing equipment moving a mirror is more credible, but anyway, the point was just to suggest another solution ^^
What I am thinking, is that this case has something to do with a reflection.
like a mirror for instance.
There's no other way a car could fly across the the sky.
unless we do the impossible.
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 9:15 pm
by Jd-
Pocky wrote:
There's no other way a car could fly across the the sky.
unless we do the impossible.
Can't rule anything out, eh?

Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 9:43 pm
by Aluecard
THINK HARDER

Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 31st, 2008, 7:14 am
by Rellik
i think it would be possible, if somehow 1 of the people got out of the car d uring the drift, he could hav done something then like hold a mirror or something lol
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 31st, 2008, 8:00 am
by Splinter
But if it is the case, how can you prove it ?
Conan probably examined carefuly the cars, and no one seemed to contain any mirror. And if the culprits have got rid of this mirror, it would be quite hard to find the evidence. ("The weapon ? A mirror, somewhere" XD)
Unless the lif of the fishing box can refract the light. Assuming that, it could be possible to carry this "mirror" with the fishing rod (which are very good according to Mouri), and the man's bleeding would be caused by fishing line, rather than the ring.
Classical but possible, I think.
Also that bothers me is this girl who was recovering in a hospital at the top of the mountain. Since she dreamt of being a cop like Sato, she might be the witch, by "playing" at passing people and telling them to stop (with her hand out of the window), as if she was chasing criminals. Then, for the trick... Good question ^^
Of course it sounds a bit incredible, but it shows all the possibilities, the complexity of this case.
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 31st, 2008, 10:27 am
by Nyarl
It's not the women, the spoiler on the car is wrong. (
link1 (see middle panel),
link2) The claim about nails being black was probably just hearsay from the various stories about the witch. I can't think of anything else to add to GinRei's explanation.
I think the tricks are more due to natural optical phenomena than any gadgets the "witch" used. I don't know enough about optics to be more specific, though.
ETA: Oh, poor Ran has been tricked enough that she's probably quick to stop any thoughts along those lines as
wishful thinking bordering on insanity. Kogoro does however give Conan a suspicious look after the
"Shin'ichi moment".
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: August 31st, 2008, 12:08 pm
by Rellik
i did say something like, i'm not sayin it is a mirror
anyways i say the thing strange is that
the guy sed he had to release the air from the boats to get it out of the car
meaning they inflated the boats when they were in the car, why?
especially when he sed that the women told him not to have it inflated when in the car, she could hav told him to don't do tat.
Re: Chapter 662
Posted: September 1st, 2008, 10:41 am
by SkyVenger
Maybe they saw another FD that was way farther, going to the left (maybe the path went like "to the right" then "to the left"), just maybe

. There were many FD's after all
And why catch the "witch"? She didn't kill anyone, right? Just provoked others to race and that "others" were at fault for driving carelessly