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User 4869 wrote: - The scene where Akai shot SKIN is not manga canon right?

User 4869 wrote: - Question: Why SKIN bother to kill Ran. She said Ran saw her face. But it's not her real face and it's the face she will discard shortly after that. It's make sense if she want to kill Ran because Ran and Shinichi could alert her presence to the police but why she didn't mention that. Is it because it's a give-away?

User 4869 wrote: - So, let take a look at the ding-dong dash case. I don't remember exactly how Gin know Mouri visit Kir that day. I remember Kir send report about "problem" (ding-dong dash) to Anokata but did she tell Gin also. Was she said only "some stupid problem"?

User 4869 wrote:Question: So are there any evidence that say they know Haibara is shrunk people? are they count as "people who know Haibara identity"

User 4869 wrote:4 Did Conan know Ran involve in party showdown incident

When Jodie make up a story to tell Ran and the police. She said she confirm the false story with the kids. With I assume if Jodie didn't leave out the part after Conan fall asleep when she confirm the new story to the "kids" Conan would know Ran's involvement already. But when Haibara mention to him that Ran's stronger than he think. Haibara has flashback to when Ran save her from Vermouth. She didn't refer to that scene when speak to Kudo. Kodo also say "I will not get Ran invlove in BO"even though she already in. So I feel like Kodo didn't know Ran's involvement. What is your opinion?

User 4869 wrote:5. Why shiho looking for Kudo at Kodo's house. Why Shiho tell her secret ot Agasa?
OK. Shiho know Kudo's alive and become a kid. When BO turn on her she's looking for Kudo for help. She already went to Kudo's house twice but found no one. why she still went to Kudo's house and expect to meet him.

It will make great deduction if she connect this together.
1 There is a kid named Conan that unusally mature. That kid also befriend her sister to the point that Akemi bring him up to their conversation many time.
2 Kudo's alive and become a kid.
3 Kudo's house in close proximity of Conan's (Akemi ask Did shiho went to someone (Shinichi) house in Beika? I also met Conan in Beika)
4 There a random kid that stand over her sister's dead body. That kid hugged from behind by a girl that resembel Akemi and "wild speculation" appear beside Shinichi in his picture in his house. Assume there're Ran's pictue in Shinichi house and he didn't remove it until shortly before Subaru move in.
5 The girl that somehow resembel Akemi connect to Shinichi (his grilfriend, can tell by how they pose for picture), connect to her sister case (appear in newspaper), connect to random kid that should not appear at crime scene (what if that's the mature kid Akemi talking about). If she connect that unusally mature kid "Conan" with the kid in newspaper. Will she think that Kid is the Shrunken Kudo and Ran help hide him. Will she come to Mouri detective agency for help (If Ran or Kogoro name appear in the newspaper).

Again. If Shiho come to Mouri place to look for Kudo and assume he tell Ran his identity already. Ran will know their secret.

Question: So Is there reason she went to Kodo house rather than to have Agasa pick her up? or she has no another place to go even went to Kodo's house has pretty slim chance to met him.

Second question: how Shiho learn the identity of Conan? Agasa tell her? Why he trust her. If he trust her because he trust her story. Why Shiho tell her secret to Agasa in the first place. If Agasa tell her about Kodo's secret first then why he's trust her with Kodu's secret. Who tell their tale first and why.

User 4869 wrote: Question: Did he consider to ask his father for help yet. Is there another reason than it will break the story? Did he piorities his case more tha Ran -" User 4869 Stabs Kudo"

User 4869 wrote:9. What is your though about Magic Kaitou's manga where Kid try to steal a clocktower and Shinichi show up to stop him.
This scene make it to DC anime Ep 219. when was that happen? If it's before Kudo shrink. He's know how Kid work that day but didn't know a thing when he "first" met kid in ep 76? And if that after he's shrink. How he's became Kudo and have spare time to capture Kid rather than face Ran. Is it after DC and. Or is it "not DC canon" and should not bother.

User 4869 wrote:10. What is this? Is it real or misinterpret. I heard DCTP here say it's rumour.
http://img190.exs.cx/img190/2370/revelation4xa.png
http://edogawa.proboards.com/index.cgi? ... 42&page=32

User 4869 wrote: 12 Is there a confirmation about what Haibara talk about her BO scent in Numabushi case. Is it ?
- Akemi can sense BO too.
- Akemi emit that scent before the bank robbery too.
- Like you can't save my sister My sense is dwindle I'll dead soon.

User 4869 wrote:13 Did "Koibito" can actually mean "old enemy" by the word itself? Or is it only Gosho who use the word that way?

User 4869 wrote:

Question is: The name Mouri didn't spark any though on Gin except he's Meitantei and didn't spark any though on Vermouth except he's Ran's father and live with Conan. If there're "Mouri" inside BO and Gin or Vermouth know it (especially if he's Anokata). Will they
- Ask that "Mouri" first before do any harm to Kogoro.
- Vermouth will use the "Mouri" to convince Gin that Kogoro is not a threat since he's relative to one of their operative/connection/Boss.
- Of cause if "Mouri" is the boss and Gin don't know. Vermouth is not on the position to tell him directly but maybe she ask Anokata to stop Gin.
- Just let Gin kill Kogoro because BOSS piority his secret more than his relative.
- But this still leave out the possibilities that the "Mouri" is BO victim open.

Question: So are there any evidence that say they know Haibara is shrunk people? are they count as "people who know Haibara identity"

4 Did Conan know Ran involve in party showdown incident

5. Why shiho looking for Kudo at Kodo's house. Why Shiho tell her secret ot Agasa?

Question: So Is there reason she went to Kodo house rather than to have Agasa pick her up? or she has no another place to go even went to Kodo's house has pretty slim chance to met him.

Second question: how Shiho learn the identity of Conan? Agasa tell her? Why he trust her. If he trust her because he trust her story. Why Shiho tell her secret to Agasa in the first place. If Agasa tell her about Kodo's secret first then why he's trust her with Kodu's secret. Who tell their tale first and why.

Question: Did he consider to ask his father for help yet. Is there another reason than it will break the story? Did he piorities his case more tha Ran -" User 4869 Stabs Kudo"

7.How long Haibara, as Conan, live in the detective agency?
Was she need to have a meal during that. If yes, how she gonna do that without remove the face mask? Conan usaull join Ran and Kogoro in his meal. how's she gonn eat?. What if Ran talk to Conan about what Haibara don't know?, Well, Haibara such a good actress to past all that.

I don't think Gosho really thought about that.

8. Ran don't remember Chris Vineyard's face?
- In ep 345 Ran's too focus on Haibara or something? she didn't recognize Chris that is her favorite actress's daugther (and more popular than Sharon)
- And Ran also piorities Haibara's life more than Conan and Jodie. (Well. Vermouth and Calvados point their gun at Haibara so it's justified).
- And suddenly don't want to use her karate? (justified again since she can't reach Calvados, But only if she spot Calvados too. which I wonder that did she spot him. How come Ran know what going immediatly after emerge form the trunk?)
- Is it possible to leap from the trunk to the car's rooftop without touch the ground? You so awesome sometime.

That scene was so terrible, it's better not too think about it.
Anyhoo:I don't think Ran gave much thought to Vermouth's face then, she didn't even look at her much.

10. What is this? Is it real or misinterpret. I heard DCTP here say it's rumour.
http://img190.exs.cx/img190/2370/revelation4xa.png
http://edogawa.proboards.com/index.cgi? ... 42&page=32

12 Did confirmation that Gin is left hand help us anything now except make it look like Akai=Gin?

13 Did the name Vineyard among the alcoholic codename organization bother you?

14 What Vermouth think she's doing in the bottom right of the page
http://www.mangareader.net/139-8657-4/d ... r-610.html

Spoiler:

It's Eri

!
Have Eri and Vermouth ever been seen together?
It would also explain why I married breva.

15 Once I heard someone ask if Ran know about Conan's gadget. I don't know if he/she found that already but Conan mention of Detective Badge to Ran twice (He give excuse to Ran so he can swap his phone with Agasa in Ran's suspision case by tell her he will have Agasa fix a broken Badge) Also. I recall Conan use it to communicate with Ran but that's not canon.(Smash of love and determination) Don't know if it happen in canon yet.

Well, there's no harm in people knowing about the badge. But how Conan's use of the bow tie has still gone unnoticed is beyond me.

That's one of the few things wher I disagree with Chekhov. I don't think it's all that weird that we don't know more members of the Mouri family. And while it does sound a lot like Moriarty, it is first and foremost a nod to Maurice Leblanc (Well, Ran's name is). I do, however, think that Kogoro got involved with the BO and that that was the cause for his leaving the force.
Even if someone in the BO were Kogoro's relative - his real name wouldn't necessarily be known. They all call each other by their code names.[q

Well, they obviously both know that Ai is somehow connected to the whole affair. So Heiji and Yusaku would probably have figured it out. Why else would a little girl be targeted by the BO?

Have Eri and Vermouth ever been seen together?

User 4869 wrote: @ 3 In the mermaid island. Did conan?
1 Know only Haibara last name. when see "Shiho Miyano" think of Haibara was there at the Island.
2  Know name "Shiho Miyano" since she tell him offscreen. And think Haibara was there at the Island.

He heard "Shiho" in Pisco case but just put 2 and 2 together in Dark footprint case. But the mermaid case happen between. So if he's think the person in the guest book is Haibara in mermaid case. how come he's look not sure and "just deduct" in Dark footprint.

Abs. wrote:

User 4869 wrote: @ 3 In the mermaid island. Did conan?
1 Know only Haibara last name. when see "Shiho Miyano" think of Haibara was there at the Island.
2  Know name "Shiho Miyano" since she tell him offscreen. And think Haibara was there at the Island.

He heard "Shiho" in Pisco case but just put 2 and 2 together in Dark footprint case. But the mermaid case happen between. So if he's think the person in the guest book is Haibara in mermaid case. how come he's look not sure and "just deduct" in Dark footprint.

In the mermaid case, Conan goes, "Miyano Shiho...?  If I remember correctly, her real name was something like that as well..."  But he quickly passes it off as just someone with the same name, since she didn't seem the type to want eternal youth and beauty.

Please specify further what you mean by "put 2 and 2 together in Dark footprint case" - Not ringing any bells at the moment.

Dus wrote:

User 4869 wrote:

Question is: The name Mouri didn't spark any though on Gin except he's Meitantei and didn't spark any though on Vermouth except he's Ran's father and live with Conan. If there're "Mouri" inside BO and Gin or Vermouth know it (especially if he's Anokata). Will they
- Ask that "Mouri" first before do any harm to Kogoro.
- Vermouth will use the "Mouri" to convince Gin that Kogoro is not a threat since he's relative to one of their operative/connection/Boss.
- Of cause if "Mouri" is the boss and Gin don't know. Vermouth is not on the position to tell him directly but maybe she ask Anokata to stop Gin.
- Just let Gin kill Kogoro because BOSS piority his secret more than his relative.
- But this still leave out the possibilities that the "Mouri" is BO victim open.

That's one of the few things wher I disagree with Chekhov. I don't think it's all that weird that we don't know more members of the Mouri family. And while it does sound a lot like Moriarty, it is first and foremost a nod to Maurice Leblanc (Well, Ran's name is). I do, however, think that Kogoro got involved with the BO and that that was the cause for his leaving the force.
Even if someone in the BO were Kogoro's relative - his real name wouldn't necessarily be known. They all call each other by their code names.

5. Why shiho looking for Kudo at Kodo's house. Why Shiho tell her secret ot Agasa?

Question: So Is there reason she went to Kodo house rather than to have Agasa pick her up? or she has no another place to go even went to Kodo's house has pretty slim chance to met him.

Second question: how Shiho learn the identity of Conan? Agasa tell her? Why he trust her. If he trust her because he trust her story. Why Shiho tell her secret to Agasa in the first place. If Agasa tell her about Kodo's secret first then why he's trust her with Kodu's secret. Who tell their tale first and why.

She probably figured out that Conan is Shinichi herself. She's not stupid, you know. And the only reason why Conan's secret identity hasn't been revealed is because no-one would believe his story.
But, yeah, it is somewhat curious that she would seek out the Kudos' house and that Agasa would trust her so readily. Fodder for the theory that Agasa is the boss? There is a lot that Shiho does not tell us anyway.

Kleene Onigiri wrote:

Dus wrote:

User 4869 wrote:

Question is: The name Mouri didn't spark any though on Gin except he's Meitantei and didn't spark any though on Vermouth except he's Ran's father and live with Conan. If there're "Mouri" inside BO and Gin or Vermouth know it (especially if he's Anokata). Will they
- Ask that "Mouri" first before do any harm to Kogoro.
- Vermouth will use the "Mouri" to convince Gin that Kogoro is not a threat since he's relative to one of their operative/connection/Boss.
- Of cause if "Mouri" is the boss and Gin don't know. Vermouth is not on the position to tell him directly but maybe she ask Anokata to stop Gin.
- Just let Gin kill Kogoro because BOSS piority his secret more than his relative.
- But this still leave out the possibilities that the "Mouri" is BO victim open.

That's one of the few things wher I disagree with Chekhov. I don't think it's all that weird that we don't know more members of the Mouri family. And while it does sound a lot like Moriarty, it is first and foremost a nod to Maurice Leblanc (Well, Ran's name is). I do, however, think that Kogoro got involved with the BO and that that was the cause for his leaving the force.
Even if someone in the BO were Kogoro's relative - his real name wouldn't necessarily be known. They all call each other by their code names.

I also think that the name doesn't have to be a connection to the BO. It could be but it's not certain.
And you also don't see any relatives beyond "Child-parents" Most don't even have siblings. We know that Mitsuhiko has a sister and Sonoko too. And Haibara had one too (tho they also don't resemble each other much)
So I don't think it's strange that we don't see any uncles, aunts or grandparents on the mouri side.

5. Why shiho looking for Kudo at Kodo's house. Why Shiho tell her secret ot Agasa?

Question: So Is there reason she went to Kodo house rather than to have Agasa pick her up? or she has no another place to go even went to Kodo's house has pretty slim chance to met him.

Second question: how Shiho learn the identity of Conan? Agasa tell her? Why he trust her. If he trust her because he trust her story. Why Shiho tell her secret to Agasa in the first place. If Agasa tell her about Kodo's secret first then why he's trust her with Kodu's secret. Who tell their tale first and why.

She probably figured out that Conan is Shinichi herself. She's not stupid, you know. And the only reason why Conan's secret identity hasn't been revealed is because no-one would believe his story.
But, yeah, it is somewhat curious that she would seek out the Kudos' house and that Agasa would trust her so readily. Fodder for the theory that Agasa is the boss? There is a lot that Shiho does not tell us anyway.

I think there is a simple reason why she went to Kudos house after she shrunk.

She knew no one is at that house, after she went there to investigate. She should also know who the parents are and that they aren't in Japan currently.
She also noticed that the child cloths are missing.

After she shrank, her suspicion that the APTX is shrinking people was verified. So, Kudo either:

a) Kudo still died or died later because of aftereffects. Meaning Kudos house is empty and can be used as a hideout.
b) Kudo shrunk but went away with his parents and the house is empty. Hideout again.
c) Kudo shrunk and has the same problem like she has now. So, even if he wouldn't willingly want to be her partner, she is still the one that made the drug. Meaning Kudo wouldn't sell her out. And they both have the BO as an enemy now, so they would therefore be allies.

In any case, going there would be good for the moment.

Also, she shrunk and was still in her adult cloths. Since Agasa knows about Kudo, he wouldn't need to guess twice that this collapsed girl in front of the house also shrunk.

User 4869 wrote:

Kleene Onigiri wrote:

Dus wrote:

User 4869 wrote:

Question is: The name Mouri didn't spark any though on Gin except he's Meitantei and didn't spark any though on Vermouth except he's Ran's father and live with Conan. If there're "Mouri" inside BO and Gin or Vermouth know it (especially if he's Anokata). Will they
- Ask that "Mouri" first before do any harm to Kogoro.
- Vermouth will use the "Mouri" to convince Gin that Kogoro is not a threat since he's relative to one of their operative/connection/Boss.
- Of cause if "Mouri" is the boss and Gin don't know. Vermouth is not on the position to tell him directly but maybe she ask Anokata to stop Gin.
- Just let Gin kill Kogoro because BOSS piority his secret more than his relative.
- But this still leave out the possibilities that the "Mouri" is BO victim open.

That's one of the few things wher I disagree with Chekhov. I don't think it's all that weird that we don't know more members of the Mouri family. And while it does sound a lot like Moriarty, it is first and foremost a nod to Maurice Leblanc (Well, Ran's name is). I do, however, think that Kogoro got involved with the BO and that that was the cause for his leaving the force.
Even if someone in the BO were Kogoro's relative - his real name wouldn't necessarily be known. They all call each other by their code names.

I also think that the name doesn't have to be a connection to the BO. It could be but it's not certain.
And you also don't see any relatives beyond "Child-parents" Most don't even have siblings. We know that Mitsuhiko has a sister and Sonoko too. And Haibara had one too (tho they also don't resemble each other much)
So I don't think it's strange that we don't see any uncles, aunts or grandparents on the mouri side.

5. Why shiho looking for Kudo at Kodo's house. Why Shiho tell her secret ot Agasa?

Question: So Is there reason she went to Kodo house rather than to have Agasa pick her up? or she has no another place to go even went to Kodo's house has pretty slim chance to met him.

Second question: how Shiho learn the identity of Conan? Agasa tell her? Why he trust her. If he trust her because he trust her story. Why Shiho tell her secret to Agasa in the first place. If Agasa tell her about Kodo's secret first then why he's trust her with Kodu's secret. Who tell their tale first and why.

She probably figured out that Conan is Shinichi herself. She's not stupid, you know. And the only reason why Conan's secret identity hasn't been revealed is because no-one would believe his story.
But, yeah, it is somewhat curious that she would seek out the Kudos' house and that Agasa would trust her so readily. Fodder for the theory that Agasa is the boss? There is a lot that Shiho does not tell us anyway.

I think there is a simple reason why she went to Kudos house after she shrunk.

She knew no one is at that house, after she went there to investigate. She should also know who the parents are and that they aren't in Japan currently.
She also noticed that the child cloths are missing.

After she shrank, her suspicion that the APTX is shrinking people was verified. So, Kudo either:

a) Kudo still died or died later because of aftereffects. Meaning Kudos house is empty and can be used as a hideout.
b) Kudo shrunk but went away with his parents and the house is empty. Hideout again.
c) Kudo shrunk and has the same problem like she has now. So, even if he wouldn't willingly want to be her partner, she is still the one that made the drug. Meaning Kudo wouldn't sell her out. And they both have the BO as an enemy now, so they would therefore be allies.

In any case, going there would be good for the moment.

Also, she shrunk and was still in her adult cloths. Since Agasa knows about Kudo, he wouldn't need to guess twice that this collapsed girl in front of the house also shrunk.

Clear my mind of the  "Habara went to Kudo house" completely.

Btw. Who's behind Vermouth in you signature?

That's Ran XD

It's from the Mafia games (that was round 5)
I got the role Vermouth. And Vermouth can disguise and I disguised as Ran I was also KID disguised as Satou once (the other picture)
The one with Akai and KID in the picture... that was me being Akai and KID(Akonly) being my lover XD

Kleene Onigiri wrote: Also, she shrunk and was still in her adult cloths. Since Agasa knows about Kudo, he wouldn't need to guess twice that this collapsed girl in front of the house also shrunk.

User 4869 wrote: Another question. Why some wiki use mermaid case to reference that Shiho Miyano mean Eternal youth and Beauty since the translation only say Conan don't think Haibara will want Eternal youth and Beauty
http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki ... te_note-16

User 4869 wrote: 1 Did Yamamura being promote in Movie 13 and not before that. And confirm it in white witch case?
I feel it's difference from another Anime>manga case since the incident that deemed canon should happen, not confirm in manga

User 4869 wrote: 2 when did Shintarou Chaki appear? demon dog?