Who is the Spy on the BO...?

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Who is the Spy on the BO...?

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Remember on the vol 59 in manga. When Gin is ask Rena Mizunashi to kill Akai..?
When Rena say how can she kill Akai from FBI..? But Gin say the FBI was busy because some of their agent was caught up as a suspect at the murdered case in hotel..

How can Gin know about the information..?
The only know the murdered case is the Policeman, Detective Boys, the three suspect and Jodie know that Camel was Agent FBI..
So who is the spy..?
It is from the policeman or they have involved in the murdered suspect..?
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I say it is not possible that the agent is a FBI agent, because otherwise Gin would have recieved info on their plans already instead of the 'me and that person feels is suspicious that the recapture was too easy' thing.

Of course, it might not be the same murder case.

But if it is, then the 1 of the 2 suspects  (the murderer most likely isn't it because it seems Gin neva planned this murder from his words and as i say Camel shouldn't be the agent) might be the agent.

And then this leads me to one of them disguised as Vermouth, i mean so far she is probs the only person i heard that speaks english in BO.
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Emm. That true.. Vermouth can disguise to anyone. If is it true that they have spy on the FBI that will be difficult for Shinichi to strike the BO.
I think Akai know about the spy that live in the FBI. That why he pretending to be death...
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Not necessarily. Note the conversation:
Gin knows
- that the FBI is still holed up at the hospital and has up to date information on their operation.
- that one of the FBI is in trouble with a case

Gin does NOT know:
- the FBI agent is Andre Camel who supposedly got killed during the Rescue Rena operation (at least they can't match the face to the name)
- the Rescue Rena operation purposely handed Rena back to the Black Organization (he has suspicions but is not sure)

From the above point we can:
- Assume that information from the hospital started going to the Black Organization shortly after Rena was handed to them.
- Eliminate the police on the scene as suspects since they don't even know that there are operating FBI in the region much less where they are based, also they don't have up to date intelligence at the hospital.
- Eliminate all the FBI operatives as suspects since they KNOW Agent Camel survived.
- The 3 suspects can also be reasonable eliminated since they don't KNOW that Jodie came from the hospital and they are being watched by the police so it would be very difficult for them to send information to the outside.

Mostly likely, the Black Organization either placed listening devices or infiltrated another agent into the hospital when the FBI dropped their alert level after Rena was lost. The former case (bugs) is more likely since the agent would have to be EXTREMELY skilled to listen in on the conversations of the head of the FBI operation without being detected.
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ah, i see, i misunderstood, so when Gin was saying 'agent' he was referring to Camel and not his own BO agent?

But what you say could also lead to Vermouth with her disguises again, she can easily kill a FBI agent and infiltrate as him/her.
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i believe it's jodie-sensei is a double agent. from a source i read from somewhere years ago, the position she has in the BO is alot higher than gin and vodka, or even vermouth, i think.

it's a very reliable source, 'cause if my memory didn't fall me, it's one of the assistant who work(-s? or -ed?) for Gosho Aoyama that leaked the information out.

but we'll see how the story go...
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cdgal wrote: i believe it's jodie-sensei is a double agent. from a source i read from somewhere years ago, the position she has in the BO is alot higher than gin and vodka, or even vermouth, i think.

it's a very reliable source, 'cause if my memory didn't fall me, it's one of the assistant who work(-s? or -ed?) for Gosho Aoyama that leaked the information out.

but we'll see how the story go...
*sigh* you keep saying *source source source* not only here in this particular topic but also the other thread that you made, instead of bragging about your so called source, atleast be reasonable enough to provide some proof's of what you are saying here. regarding jodie-sensei there are other issues that contradicts with what you are saying (posting) here.  >:(
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- Eliminate all the FBI operatives as suspects since they KNOW Agent Camel survived.
Not ALL FBI agents were given the information, though. As I remember, only those on the 'special mission team' had access to it AND Akai also told the team not to reveal that Camel's alive to anyone.

Say, the B.O. spy could totally disguise as a policeman on Megune's team: the spy didn't need to know there were FBI; as long as he could spot Akai, he'd know immediately the FBI were there!
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It not really necessary to have a spy in the FBI. It more likey a spy on the FBI. To know those two things, All they need is a watcher on Jodie.

If they see her getting a cell call and then leaving for a different location, they can guess that the FBI is involved in something requiring her to be elsewhere and that could involve an FBI agent in trouble. I sure there know Jodie is FBI.

As for the hospital, again watching Jodie will do that.If an FBI agent keeps going to the same place often, it is easy to believe that the FBI is involved with the hospital.

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How about the time when Akai's cover was blown? It was Camel who caused that, right? Then at least the BO knows Camel of the FBI (face & name, because those BO who have seen him can disseminate the info to other BO - the executives (Gin etc.) at least)

At least they didn't know that the one w/Rena was Camel... But they may know that Camel was the one in the hospital. So no need for an in-depth or undercover BO spy; but I think BO, FBI, and CIA are spying each other all the time

Just a theory though :P
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cdgal wrote: i believe it's jodie-sensei is a double agent. from a source i read from somewhere years ago, the position she has in the BO is alot higher than gin and vodka, or even vermouth, i think.

it's a very reliable source, 'cause if my memory didn't fall me, it's one of the assistant who work(-s? or -ed?) for Gosho Aoyama that leaked the information out.

but we'll see how the story go...
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cdgal wrote: i believe it's jodie-sensei is a double agent. from a source i read from somewhere years ago, the position she has in the BO is alot higher than gin and vodka, or even vermouth, i think.
it's a very reliable source, 'cause if my memory didn't fall me, it's one of the assistant who work(-s? or -ed?) for Gosho Aoyama that leaked the information out.
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Post by Miwakosato1412 »

If they have a spy I think it's an police officer. But I don't think it's Takagi, Megure or Chiba... but I've got the strange feeling, that there's a spy of the BO in the police. The BO cannot exist without knowing something about police work!
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