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Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: June 27th, 2010, 8:58 am
by kentasaiba
We know Gin is stupid. Not real stupid, just deductive stupid. If there is a deduction battle it will be between Kudo and Bourbon. Scar-Akai is not Vermuth either Kid. Irish is dead, who else could it be? Kudos Mom?

Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: June 27th, 2010, 9:30 am
by Kleene Onigiri
First off, I don't think Gin would kill Kir IN HIS BELOVED PORSCHE! lol
Conan324 wrote: thats not my point, im saying what if scar akai is bourbon but the bo does not know, and they're using kir to give false information.
Conan324 wrote: ever since the red shirt case ended people have assumed that gin didn't shoot kir because scar akai turned out to be bourbon, but what if scar akai is not bourbon and the BO knows that? isn't it possible that they're using kir to give out false information for them to conduct their operations more easily?????
I think there is a typo in one of those posts? Or I just don't get what you mean? XD

Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: June 27th, 2010, 3:27 pm
by sstimson
I had that idea but a different way see

http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?p=118603#p118603

Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: June 27th, 2010, 4:27 pm
by sstimson
Major difference though My idea is the bourbon does not exist at all. The intel on bourbon is a test of KIR.

Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: June 27th, 2010, 6:04 pm
by sstimson
Are my theories too much in left field ( too crazy )

http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=2577.0 Hairaba Still a member of the BO

http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=3484.0 The Drug does not kill

http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=3633.0 Sharon is not and never was a member of the BO

Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: June 27th, 2010, 6:33 pm
by Chekhov MacGuffin
sstimson wrote: Are my theories too much in left field ( too crazy )
http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=2577.0 Hairaba Still a member of the BO
http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=3484.0 The Drug does not kill
http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=3633.0 Sharon is not and never was a member of the BO
Yes, yes they are. - you asked for that one though 8)

I have noticed we have a major difference in theory generating methodology. In general, I assume that something is the truth/is how it appears to be/is what someone says it is until there is evidence which suggests the contrary. You seem to jump straight to the converse without the evidence, possibly leading to erroneous conclusions, i.e. false positives. The drawback of my method is missing something because there hasn't been enough evidence - i.e. false negatives.

Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: June 28th, 2010, 7:38 am
by kentasaiba
Okiya have ro know that Scar-Akai was Bourbon. If we can asume that, Okiya has a connection to Rena (CIA, FBI, Akai whatever), Rena would definitly know he is Bourbon too. She could tell it Gin or the FBI, to destroy Bourbons Plan, what ever it is.

Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: June 28th, 2010, 9:46 pm
by Chekhov MacGuffin
kentasaiba wrote: Okiya have ro know that Scar-Akai was Bourbon. If we can asume that, Okiya has a connection to Rena (CIA, FBI, Akai whatever), Rena would definitly know he is Bourbon too. She could tell it Gin or the FBI, to destroy Bourbons Plan, what ever it is.
If Scar Akai is Bourbon, Gin is sure to have figured out scar Akai's plan after seeing him at the department store case. Gin already knows that Bourbon doesn't think Akai is dead. There could only be one reason for Bourbon to disguise as the enemy- to lure out the real Shuuichi or go fishing for reactions from Akai's close coworkers. In any case, Gin will probably choose to ignore the deluded idiot who refuses to believe Akai was shot dead. Gin doesn't like Bourbon anyway, so why bother? Let the boss sort him out, it's not Gin's problem.

Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: June 29th, 2010, 3:43 pm
by kentasaiba
And... what about if Bourbon dont know that he is Scar-Akai? If he hates Akai that much, that he split his personality. He thinks he is Akai and have to crush de BO. He wants to contact with his "friends" but erverytime Conan cames up with a Case.

Re: just a thought( SPOILERS FILE 699+)

Posted: July 10th, 2010, 7:28 pm
by Eve
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
kentasaiba wrote: Okiya have ro know that Scar-Akai was Bourbon. If we can asume that, Okiya has a connection to Rena (CIA, FBI, Akai whatever), Rena would definitly know he is Bourbon too. She could tell it Gin or the FBI, to destroy Bourbons Plan, what ever it is.
If Scar Akai is Bourbon, Gin is sure to have figured out scar Akai's plan after seeing him at the department store case. Gin already knows that Bourbon doesn't think Akai is dead. There could only be one reason for Bourbon to disguise as the enemy- to lure out the real Shuuichi or go fishing for reactions from Akai's close coworkers. In any case, Gin will probably choose to ignore the deluded idiot who refuses to believe Akai was shot dead. Gin doesn't like Bourbon anyway, so why bother? Let the boss sort him out, it's not Gin's problem.
spoken like a true mafia XD